Pakistan to lease Gilgit-Baltistan to China & possible Indian response

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    re: Pakistan to lease Gilgit-Baltistan to China & possible Indian response

    Even if India throws 10 times the money as China, Pakis won't lease it to us.
     
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    None of this will matter if the territory comes under Chinese control. They won't need WB for that. Chinese have enough money to fund the project.
     
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    US and EU didn't want Crimean annexation to happen. What could they do there? And btw, US & EU can and will only fight against small nations. They don't have the guts, neither the will to fight against powerful nations like Russia and China.
     
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    Re: Will India react militarily if Pak cedes Gilgit Baltistan to China

    They will not give it to China, because there is already protest by the people, that GB must be made a new Province.
     
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    Not possible, as people in GB are already protesting to make it a new province.
     
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    Once the Chinese are in, they will never leave. If Pakistan does this or has done this, they are giving or have given that part of their country away. "Lease" means nothing to the Chinese; once the Chinese are in they are in for keeps. I can't believe that the Pakistanis are that foolishly naive and credulous about the Communist Chinese and their intentions. I hope I live long enough to see the PRC turn on and betray its Pakistani ally and turn on and betray Pakistan the Communist Chinese certainly will when it suits them. The Communist Chinese are inveterate liars and will say anything that furthers their interests, true or not. He who sups with the Devil should have a long spoon.
     
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    Re: Will India react militarily if Pak cedes Gilgit Baltistan to China

    unfortunately the harsh reality is that gov of packland doesn't give half a damn about the people of GB and
    is paying zero heed to their cries for justice and fair treatment .

    Not only that but they would look a real clown to the whole world after all their whinging
    to the international community, including the UNSC about how kashmir and the kashmiri people
    were always part and parcel of packland .

    no one would ever take any of their further claims seriously and punjabstan would lose the moral
    authority to rule over NWFP, Beluchistan and Sind - so basically they would be negating the entire concept of
    pakistan and de facto would be declaring that now each state rules itself .

    The inhabitant of those states would also have great reason to fear that one day they too
    might be handed over ( or at least portions of their territory ) and they would then share
    the fate of the Tibetans
     
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    Re: Will India react militarily if Pak cedes Gilgit Baltistan to China

    A formal and open cede is not sellable for Pakistan.
    But they can allow China to influence the region to far greater extent than today and let them squeeze profit out of it.
    All that doesn't need a formal and open cede of any territory. That exploitation can be done via projects and MoUs.
     
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    I belive such strategies are already underway.
     
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    Once China are in (i believe they already are) pakistan loose all its credibility on the territorial dispute, period!
     
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    Gilgit should be made another Bolchisatan
     
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    Re: Pakistan to lease Gilgit-Baltistan to China & possible Indian resp

    Balochistan wants to be an independent country.

    GB or as it was known in ancient Sanskrit Treyambakeshwar, is our territory which has been taken from us due to the limitations imposed by the world at that time and of course our own political foolishness.

    We need RAW and Doval to make plans to get back what has always been India's.
     
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    The plans are already on fast track, GB shall be free soon inshahallah!
     
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    I think Balochistan is just to distract Al Bakistan from India's operation in GB.
     
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    I think it is time that we move our intel groups to seriously aid separatists of Balochistan and let them form their own country. The idea is, once Balochis severe there province from Pakistan, all we need to do is a small death blow to finish off the Islamic monster in the Indian subcontinent.

    And all this can be done without the use of any troops. Bangladeshi problem will cower down and wither away looking at the example made out of Pakistanis.
     
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    Shias can be motivated to take RAW'S counter terrorism ops inside Bak territory. But it will take time to establish deep assets
     
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    Not to worry - China will learn from what America did with the disputed territory of Okinawa, and build gigantic radar and airfield facilities all over Gilgit Baltistan as well as stock it with enough firepower to scorch the entire Gangetic Plain in five minutes or hack the entire Indian power grid with the press of a button.
     
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    Hopefully we are building the required assets as we speak. If we wait for some direct actions to rake up Baloch, it would be too late already.

    That would be the prudent thing to do and useful for India too. Just as the Chinese nuke sub in SL was a much needed wake-up call, your proposed actions will send the bells ringing. Indian tend to take things easy until we are pressed into acting, too laid back and not too ambitious. China serves a much needed role for us.

    The Chinese threat will propel Indian defense growth for the next few decades and even beyond. You need a dangerous opponent to be always on the guard.
     
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    Lease, rent and sale ... this is what pakis are doing with there country..
    I think -----s wanted Chinese to set up Noodles shops all over Gigit - Baltistan...
    Ah, our soldiers are waiting for yummy food ..
     
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    Re: Pakistan to lease Gilgit-Baltistan to China & possible Indian resp

    It is important to be on toes. Chinese didn't do anything miraculous; they simply followed what they had planned in a timely fashion. The reason why our government found it shocking was that for the last 12 years, India was sleeping, mired in corruption, scams, rioting, terror-loving, elitist debates, filmfare awards etc while China calmly went about developing their military industrial complex, manufacturing factories of different products and dealing in hardcore business deals with the rest of the world.

    We have virtually zero presence in Latin American countries, while China is either top or second biggest trade partner with some or the other.

    We have reasonable presence in Africa but Chinese raced us by moving in 12 years ahead.

    We have had zero presence in Oceania in terms of significant trade and development while it took 12 years and PM Modi to initiate a strategic engagement with Pacific Rim and other Oceania countries.

    So technically, we have a lot to catch up to. We are in a deep bowl of soup in terms of strategic-military-geopolitical arena.

    I hope Doval is developing assets that can launch massive action inside Pakistan in case they try to conduct major terror attacks against our country.

    He is afterall, the second most powerful man in the country right now after the Prime Minister, and has already warned Pakistan if they tried to act funny.

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    What we need is a robust military industrial complex that can supplement our interests in this region as well as extended neighbourhood.
     
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