Maldives Crisis: News & Discussion

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  1. Ray

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    It appears that Gayoom has take over the Govt through the backdoor.

    It is obvious that he cannot win upfront in a democratic manner!

     
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    For people who don't know Gayoom has been a long time ally of India.

    In 1988, President Gayoom who was inpower then got Indian military to intervene on his behalf. India is in a unique situation in Maldives where both sides of political spectrum have close ties with India.

    What MEA is doing with brokering peace and calling for early elections to establish a proper mandate is the right thing to do.

    Here is article by former Naval officer on the military intervention by india to protect Gayoom

    Drama on high seas: How 1988 Maldives coup leaders were held - Economic Times
     
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    Exactly, India cannot behave like China. We need to establish good relation with the common people of Maldives. Unlike China which depends on puppet regimes, we must promote good image of India, like we have been doing in Afghanistan. Let the people of Maldives decide their future. As far as India's interest in the island nation is concerned, I believe none of the two sides are anti-India.
     
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    Gayoom has been a long time ally of India, but he is the one who brought fundamentalists to the fore without appearing to do so.

    And why did India intervene?

    Who were the terrorists?

    Check that out!
     
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    Police and security forces personnel joined the demonstrations by political opponents of President Mohammed Nasheed, reportedly beat him and forced him to resign at gunpoint.

    They helped put an end to what was a political dream of the Maldivian people. After three decades of rule by Abdul Gayoom, they elected a president who had suffered jail and torture fighting for their human rights and democratic aspirations.

    By all available accounts, they have backed an alliance of Gayoom and religious conservatives who used Islam as a political weapon in this nation of Sunni Muslims.....


    Gayoom was removed by a bunch of ambitious Maldivian businessmen backed by Sri Lankan Tamil mercenaries, who were hoping to gain a foothold and fight Colombo from some of the 800-plus uninhabited islands that form the Maldivian archipelago.

    India had then launched a brief but decisive military operation, obviously not out of love for Gayoom. It saw a common security threat. Its action was viewed with alarm -- the Cold War era was very much on. India was accused of nursing blue water naval ambitions.



    Maldives coup places India in a spot of frenzy - Columnist - New Straits Times
     
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    Ray, we should be concerned in how the politicians treat Indian interests. Not on what is fundamentalists or moderate. As a govt. we can only indirectly influence that. We would expect other countries to respect if BJP or VHP/RSS backed political parties came to power in India no matter how fundamentalist they might be in their outlook.

    Its important to engage the political actors on both sides of the divide. As long as Indian interests are acknowledged, we should let the people sort out who they want to rule.

    And people of Maldives depend on on tourism for their survival. The idea that with Gayoom we are seeing a Talibanisation of Maldives is quite exaggerated.
     
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    It might gladden your heart that Gayoom has taken over through the backdoor, but as I see it, it matters if fundamentalists take over nations along the periphery.

    It is not a question of religion. It is a question of geostrategy and survival.

    Maldives will always be a Muslim nation, like it or not. And none can change that even in their wildest dreams.

    However, the difference lies in whether it is led/suported by a radical Islamist or a moderate Muslim.

    Osama was once taken to be a mere champion of the Muslim cause and an agent of the US. The US did not read the tea leaves correctly. He became a terror to the world!

    It is better to be safe than sorry!



    Gayoom, as per all report, has the backing of radicals.

    If one looks at Bangladesh, Hasina is not a radical Islamist, while Khaleda has aligned with radicals. And both are good Muslims. Yet, who would India prefer?

    So, it is a question of having someone who will minimise the worries of India to continuously look over the shoulder.

    It is better to be safe than sorry!

    If BJP comes to power, it will be rather pretentious to believe that the Islamic countries will be comfortable with India!

    What has Maldives depending on terrorism got to do with it? As it is alcohol is not allowed in Maldives, so it does not matter as to who rules!

    Rather weak arguments!
     
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    Developments in the Maldives and India’s Options | Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses
     
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    How like a diplomat he has said!

    Neither here nor there.

    Meaningless pious platitudes and His Master's Voice!

    One should ask this worthy diplomat, does India encourage coups or democratically elected Govts?

    And because we have fools for diplomats, who are more busy enjoying life at the cocktail circuits, that they cannot predict what is happening in the country where they are posted.

    If indeed the Ambassador was doing his job, he could have reported the discontent, if any, or the palace coup in the offing, and then the Govt of India could have undertaken with all piety the long term strengthening of democratic institutions and resolve their differences peacefully.

    A silly article of a bureaucratic mindset that has no proactivity that is essential from these moribund sinecures!
     
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    Ray Sir,

    AFAIK, you can't take Alcohol into Maldives, but it is available in hotels and bars there. Its just very expensive because of some very high taxes on it. There is currently a big debate on complete ban on Alcohol and pork in Maldives but the tourism industry barons (those who support Gayoom as well) won't like that to happen. It was only a pressure point to play up against Nasheed. Ofcourse, the use of religion in politics is bad no matter which religion and which region you look at, but that is something the Maldivian people will have to learn and recognize on their own. All we could do is use people-to-people contact to explain why this is not the best way to run your politics rather than GoI taking sides.

    And Muslim countries might be under pressure to have good relations with India if events like 2002 Gujrat riots happen but they will still try to maintain good relations. Afterall, it was under the NDA regime that the Saudis said no to Pakistan for support on the Kargil war and later in 2003 Jaswant Singh who went to Saudi Arabia to actually initiate the opening of the partnership with the Saudis. The GCC countries continue to be big investors in Gujrat despite a BJP govt. being in power there. Again, some major start up with Turkey were also started under NDA as well. Similarly, it was the BJP led NDA govt. that signed a defense pact with the Islamic republic of Iran in 2003 and even had naval war games with them. So most countries will take a pragmatic approach.
     
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    Ejaz, Maldivians are totally weird though. They'd leave behind most Arabs and Pakistanis in terms of ultra-radicalism. These people think that they are some oil sheikhs with rivers of oil just pouring out of their country. Their egos are sky high and so is their intolerance. If it were not for our government's attitude, Maldivians would have been thrashed by PLOTE and brought back down to earth.

    After having personally experienced Maldivian attitude, I find the 1988 Operation Cactus just a showmanship of our military capabilities off shore more than any serious trouble. Wish PLOTE had actually taken over that stupid country. It would teach those egoistic fanatics some civilization.
     
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    [Important] What REALLY happened in Maldives!!!



    Detailed English Report On What Really Happened In Maldives. This Is Important As There Are Lots Of Conflicting Reports. This is a Maldives report..
     
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