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http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20101208/161688482.html

Russia, India may hold joint military drills annually


The Russian-Indian joint Indra military drills will involve three branches of the armed forces and may be held every year in the future, the chief of the Russian General Staff said on Wednesday.

Gen. Nikolai Makarov, who is on a three-day official visit to India, spoke after meeting his Indian counterpart, Air Chief Marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik, and other top military commanders.

"We have agreed that the Indra exercises in 2011 will involve the Ground Forces, the Navy and the Air Force," Makarov said, adding that they could be held annually from next year.

The Indian and Russian military have conducted Indra joint biennial exercises since 2003, but the drills have never involved all three branches of the armed forces.

The latest drills were held in October 2010 in the Indian Himalayas.

Russia sent more than 200 troops from its 34th mountain brigade, based in the North Caucasus, to join the Indian troops in the exercises.

NEW DELHI, December 8 (RIA Novosti)
 

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Russia/Soviet Union has been the most important country for Republic of India since 1947. Russian President is coming to India. Since nobody has said anything, I would like to welcome him to India on behalf of this forum.

Lets hope they do sign FGFA deal this time.
 

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From the Admiral Gorshkov to the T-50: on the new renaissance in military-technical cooperation between Russia and India




13:59 22/12/2010© RIA Novosti. Sergey Safronov
RIA Novosti military commentator Ilya Kramnik




Russia and India have now signed an agreement on the preliminary design of the fifth-generation FGFA fighter for the Indian Air Force.
The fighter will be based on the Russian T-50, which is currently undergoing flight tests.

The history of the FGFA spans more than a year - the preliminary agreement on its design was signed in 2008, when the Future Airborne Complex - Frontline Aviation (PAK-FA) program entered the final phase of its development. At the time, the basic requirements for the Indian fighter, which slightly differed from the Russian version, were identified. These main differences were in crew capacity (the Indian Air Force prefers a two-man vehicle), equipment, and weapons (for obvious reasons, the Indian fighter will not exclusively use Russian combat systems).


It took almost 10 years for the Russian fighter to see its first flight. The plane currently being developed for India should get off the ground sooner because the bulk of its design has already been applied under the PAK-FA program. If all goes well, the first FGFA flight could occur in the next five to six years, and mass production could start in 2018-19.


The development of the FGFA proceeds from of a long history of military-technical cooperation between Russia and India that has persisted for nearly 50 years and gone through several phases of change and evolution.


A history of cooperation


The first phase of Russian-Indian military-technical cooperation began in 1962, when the Soviet Union delivered ready-made weapons to India during its conflict with neighboring China. The second phase began in the late 1960s, when India undertook the licensed production of Soviet systems - aircraft, small arms, and a number of other weapons systems.


By 1980, 75% of India's military needs were being met by arms deliveries from the USSR and the licensed production of Soviet weapons, and by the 1990s, India the same percentage of Indian forces were still armed with Soviet weapons. Simultaneously, Indian industry reached a level that enabled it to develop its own weapons models. The Indian defense industry has since begun work on several independent projects, including ballistic and anti-aircraft missiles, warships, tanks, and various aircraft.



However, experience has shown that India is not always capable of completing such projects under its own auspices, which can lead to significant delays and inferior equipment as compared to systems in Russia and the West. The Akash anti-aircraft missile system is a prime example. The system was developed over almost 25 years - from 1984 to 2009 - but its military-technological level is approximately the same as the Buk anti-aircraft missile system developed in the USSR in the early 1980s. The Indian tank project, Arjun, has also thus far been lackluster and took almost 30 years to be developed.


As a result, the Indian leadership has decided that joint development is the most promising form of military-technical cooperation because it enables India to develop its scientific and technical expertise while obtaining the results guaranteed by its partner's more significant advancement.


The Air Force and the Navy - the backbone of cooperative partnership
The role of Russian developers in creating new ships for the Indian Navy is considerable; these include destroyers, frigates, new generation Project ATV nuclear submarines, as well as a long-term project for an aircraft carrier. At the same, India continues to buy fully manufactured ships from Russia. The most important of these is the upgraded Vikramaditya aircraft carrier (formerly the Admiral Gorshkov). Meanwhile, the construction of Project 11356 frigates for the Indian Navy continues. India intends to order three more ships in addition to the three already built and the three currently under construction.


In spring 2011, India is also planning to lease a Project 971I Russian nuclear submarine. The Indian Navy will use it to train Indian crews for its own nuclear submarine program.


In terms of the prospects for military-technical cooperation with India, it should be noted that Russia will likely continue to supply the bulk of aircraft and warships. As for the supply of ground vehicles, India is gradually reorienting towards its own industry along with other international suppliers.


For Russia, however, the aviation and shipbuilding markets are more than worth it - the Indian Air Force and Navy are among the strongest in the world and require large supplies of modern technology to maintain their current force and underwrite their future development. Moreover, it is possible that in the future Russia and India will align to fill orders from third-party nations through joint production and export.

From the Admiral Gorshkov to the T-50: on the new renaissance in military-technical cooperation between Russia and India | Features & Opinion | RIA Novosti
 

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The Indian tank project, Arjun, has also thus far been lackluster and took almost 30 years to be developed.
This is a joke right? the Arjuns pummeled the T-90s in trials flat. Because of this, the Indian Army top brass was left stuttering for excuses on how to continue with T-90s instead of Arjun. There's a whole thread on this.
 

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Oboronprom ready for partnership with India

Russian defence firm Oboronprom has identified India as its strategic partner and is ready to forge a long-term partnership with the country, according to a top company official.

"Russian Helicopters Holding combining all the helicopter plants under the Oboronprom roof is to display its latest models at the Aero India 2011 show in Bangalore beginning on February 9," Andrei Reus, CEO of Oboronprom Corporation, which specialises in the manufacture of helicopters and aircraft engines, told PTI.

He said India has a huge potential for the civilian and military rotor aircraft and Russia is going to display its multi-role light helicopter Kamov Ka-226T, medium haul Mi-17 class, all weather Kamov Ka -32A11BC and heavy lift Mi-26T2 civilian helicopters at the Bangalore air show.

The Night Hunter Mil M-28NE helicopter gunship is expected to attract interest at the air show as it has been already inducted by the Russian Army.

Reus, an economics graduate from the Moscow State University, has held several key posts in the past including the deputy minister for Industry and Energy.

He believes that Russian helicopters and the United (aircraft) Engines have a great market potential in India, including in the joint production and export of cutting edge technology to other countries.

Reus said business growth in India is impossible without removing the hurdle of after sales service and Oboronprom has thus set up a service centre for Russian organ helicopters in Greater Noida, near New Delhi.

Besides Russian Helicopters, Oboronprom also combines the United Engines Corporation incorporating all the aircraft engine plants of Russia, including the Ufa engine plant, which has transferred sensitive technology for the production of engines for the Sukhoi Su-30 MKI fighters under the Tot deal.

Reus said Oboronprom has managed to overcome the trauma of the Soviet collapse and is ready to compete with its western partners at par.

"Currently we are developing the engine for the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) to be jointly produced by India and Russia, we have also at advanced stages in the development of a new engine for the Indo-Russian muli-role transport aircraft (MTA) and Russia's MS-21 airliner," he said.


http://www.brahmand.com/news/Oboronprom-ready-for-partnership-with-India/6225/1/13.html
 

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Our ties with Russia

Until 1990, Pakistan had a particularly close relationship with the United States. However, in the 1990s, the country was faced with a peculiar foreign relations situation. The visible tilt of the United States toward Pakistan's eastern neighbour, with an eye on India's huge market, accentuated Pakistan's growing dilemma. There had been increasing signs of tension in Islamabad's relations with Washington after the US and India signed a defence pact that charted a course for defence cooperation between the two countries for the next 10 years. Relations were also strained after religious parties in Pakistan took over the government of the then North-West Frontier Province that shares a border with Afghanistan. It was in this context that policymakers started to look at different foreign policy options. And, so, what was unthinkable a few years ago — extending a hand of friendship to Russia — suddenly seemed a viable option.

In 2003, former Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf visited Moscow and ended a 33-year diplomatic estrangement that existed between his country and Russia. During this visit, Musharraf and President Vladimir Putin signed diplomatic and cultural accords. The discussions centred on economic issues and concluded with a severe indictment of the new international icon that had provoked a whole string of anti-terror treaties across the globe: The suicide bomber.

The get-together was conducted in a spirit of bonhomie, with both leaders nursing certain grievances against the behaviour of established allies. It was, nevertheless, tempered somewhat by a previous Kremlin announcement that pointed out that Putin had earlier informed the prime minister of India that his meeting with India's arch-rival would not affect the cordial relations Russia enjoyed with it. Russian-Indian bonds notwithstanding, Pakistan had indicated, on more than one occasion, that it would like to forget the past and increase active trade with Russia.

Yet, what caused this sudden about-face in relations between the two countries after decades of alliances with each other's rivals? The old alignments, though they have been given a bit of a squeeze, are nonetheless in place. Pakistan is still very close to China and former US president George Bush periodically praised Pakistan's efforts in the war against terrorism. Despite the occasional snubs and rebukes and flagrant violations of sovereignty, no Pakistani government has ever been willing to cut the umbilical cord with the US. There is far too much at stake. The official position in Islamabad in 2003, therefore, was that Musharraf and Putin were merely exploring new diplomatic channels so that they could widen trade. The unofficial view in Pakistan, however, was that Putin possibly saw Musharraf's visit in terms of a Kremlin bid to enhance Russia's role in South Asia, at a time when other strategic partnerships were shifting.

After the recent stand-off between Pakistan and the US over the Osama bin Laden episode, is it any wonder that policymakers may once again start thinking about making overtures to the Kremlin?

How different things would have been if the former Soviet Union, that socialist monolith which stretched across 11 time zones, had still been intact at the time of the Musharraf visit, and had not disbanded with 15 former Soviet republics spinning off on independent trajectories. A few years ago, it was still widely believed that it would take some time to overcome memories of a bitter past, when Pakistan was a staging area for US-backed mujahideen fighters who took on the invading Soviets in Afghanistan.

Attitudes toward Russia in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, the epicentre of intense anti-American sentiment, have changed quite dramatically over the past few years, especially after the US drone attacks in North Waziristan. But 44 years of western propaganda against the former Soviet Union have taken their toll, and there are still plenty of dyed-in-the-wool conservatives in Pakistan who haven't altered their perception of Russia and are suspicious of the giant. This core group still harbours strong views on Russian nationalism, which it sees as a malevolent force that has persisted from the days of the tsar to the Soviet and post-Soviet periods and which sees communism as just one face of Eternal Russia, with its exaggerated claims of uniqueness and apocalyptic sense of national mission. But no matter what the British and the French and the Germans might say, it is still the country of the future.

Our ties with Russia – The Express Tribune
 

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Russia Snubs India

Russia has cancelled both its 'Indra' series of military exercises with India. Last month, a flotilla of five warships from the Indian navy's eastern fleet that went for joint naval exercises to Vladivostok in the Russian far-east, was turned back without any manoeuvres. The warships-which included the missile destroyers INS Delhi, INS Ranvir and INS Ranvijay-were warmly received by the Russian navy, but when asked about the exercises, they were told the Russians had no ships to spare. On a request from the Indian fleet, a face-saving 'table top exercise or a land-based simulation, was carried out.

What rubbed salt in their wounds was that Russian warships sailed out for an exercise of their own, apparently belying their earlier claims. The cancelled exercise was hushed up even as the warships returned to Visakhapatnam.
A befuddled Ministry of Defence (mod) was groping for answers when they were snubbed again. Last week, Russia informed the mod that it had cancelled the upcoming joint army exercises scheduled to be held in Russia in June. One of the reasons given was that the mod had not informed Moscow of the army exercises in advance. Petr Topychkhanov of the Carnegie Moscow Centre says the cancellation of the exercises does not reflect any change in relations with India. "One of the reasons could be the hard process of military reform in Russia. The Russian armed forces are unready for an international exercise at this stage," he says.

Since 2003, India and Russia have conducted five of the Indra series military exercises between the armies and navies of both sides. The last such exercise was held between Russian and Indian army units in Uttarakhand in October last year. In sharp contrast, India has conducted over 60 military exercises with the US. Indian defence officials admit that exercises with Russia are largely symbolic but are an important barometer of healthy ties between the two sides. The strategic partnership with Russia still holds.


Defence Minister A.K. Antony says that Delhi's proximity to Washington will not be at the cost of ties with Moscow. On the ground, however, ties have been on a roller-coaster ride. Russia is unhappy at losing a lucrative $10 billion contract for 126 multi-role medium combat aircraft. The iaf narrowed its choice to France's Rafale and Europe's Typhoon, ejecting US and Russian contenders. Topychkhanov does not rule out cancellation of the military exercises as a retort by the miffed Russians.

Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik visited Moscow recently to inspect progress on the joint Indo-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (fgfa). The visit was also meant to mollify Russia and indicate India's commitment to the futuristic fighter which is expected to replace the most current fighter aircraft in the iaf's inventory when it is ready for squadron service in 2017.

Relations between India and Russia soured in recent years over the extended deadline for the refit of the aircraft carrier, Admiral Gorshkov. The refit slipped by four years and the its cost doubled to $2.3 billion. The carrier will now be delivered late next year. Deadlines for the acquisition of an Akula-II class nuclear-powered submarine have slipped by over three years. India paid $670 million for completing the submarine under a 2003 contract. This month, a 100-man Indian crew that had gone to Vladivostok to bring the vessel back returned empty-handed. There is no word on when the strategic submarine, which the navy desperately needs, will be transferred to India. Russia is reportedly keen that India pay for the completion of a second unfinished Akula hull at the Komsomolsk shipyard. This has been turned down by the navy.

The real issue is the poor sourcing of components for Russian-made equipment operated by the Indian armed forces. Over half the inventory of the three armed forces comprise equipment of Russian origin. "It takes nearly a year for us to get even export permissions from Russia. This severely impacts force preparedness," says a defence official.


Some of India's consternation over these delays may have spilled over at a meeting between navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma and the visiting Russian navy chief, Admiral Sergeevich Vysotskiy, this January. Various department heads of the Indian navy read out the riot act on the poor serviceability of warships, aircraft and submarines to the Russian naval delegation. After the meeting, Vysotskiy privately conveyed his dismay at the ambush. The warning signs appeared at a recent joint meeting in Moscow when Russian defence officials refused to discuss military exercises. Evidently, it was a portent of the chill to come.



Moscow cancels two military exercises with India : NATION: India Today
 
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Russia Snubs India

Russia has cancelled both its 'Indra' series of military exercises with India. Last month, a flotilla of five warships from the Indian navy's eastern fleet that went for joint naval exercises to Vladivostok in the Russian far-east, was turned back without any manoeuvres. The warships-which included the missile destroyers INS Delhi, INS Ranvir and INS Ranvijay-were warmly received by the Russian navy, but when asked about the exercises, they were told the Russians had no ships to spare. On a request from the Indian fleet, a face-saving 'table top exercise or a land-based simulation, was carried out.


Moscow cancels two military exercises with India : NATION: India Today


The Indian Navy has sent an official report on Russia's snub, to India's Foreign Ministry. An MoD officer said the Navy was furious about the way the Russians pulled from the INDRA exercise. A senior source indicated that even the face-saving table-top exercise, referred to in the India Today piece didn't actually happen.

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India and Russia are strategic partners for a long time..

What pushed Russians to to this?..

MMCA deal with other countries?..
 

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What Russia Fears in Asia | The Diplomat
Despite its growing military and economic power, Russia doesn't see China as a threat. The potential chaos in Central Asia is another matter.


Developments in Central Asia and Pakistan are a major concern for Russia, but the growing military might of China isn't really, at least according to Russian political and military officials I spoke with at a key conference in Moscow.

I probed numerous senior Russian officials at the off-the-record Defence and Security section meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club on China, and received what were in some ways some surprising responses. When considering China's growing economic power and military potential, even many US defence analysts who don't consider China a threat still see managing its rise as a challenge. Indeed, over the past two years, the Barack Obama administration has sought to strengthen defence cooperation with other Asian countries worried about China's rise, including Japan and Vietnam. And, like previous US administrations, they've also called on Chinese policy makers to make their defence policies and programmes more transparent.

Russian leaders speaking in public, in contrast, almost always repeat the official view that Russia and China are strategic partners, and that rather than fear China's rise, Moscow welcomes it as a stabilizing factor in Asia. And although one senior military officer I met with in Moscow insisted that the Russian defence community constantly monitors Chinese defence developments, and sees clear signs of improved Chinese capabilities, the country still doesn't see China as a current or emerging threat.

A senior Russian general confirmed that Russian defence leaders regularly discuss China with their US counterparts, but added that this was because Russian leaders are concerned that tensions between China and the United States could negatively affect the security of Asia in general, and Russia in particular.

Still, some Russian defence analysts at the conference were a little less sanguine over China's rising military potential. For example, one told the sole Japanese participant, who had asked several questions about this issue, not to worry about the likely placement of the Mistral warship in the Russian Far East, since its main function would be to deter China, not fight Japan.

Indeed, the crash in Russian arms sales to China in the past few years has led many Western defence analysts to believe that Russia has essentially given up on the Chinese. In the past, Moscow could count on China buying various high-tech weapons systems from Russia's military industrial complex. And, following the decision of Western governments to impose an arms embargo on China after the 1989 Tiananmen Square incident, a ban that remains largely in force today, China emerged as one of the most reliable clients of Russian defence items. For almost two decades, China accounted for between one-fourth and one-half of Russia's foreign military sales, with Beijing buying more military products from Russia than from all other countries combined. During the 1990s, the value of these purchases ranged up to $1 billion per year, while during the mid-2000s, this figure sometimes rose above $2 billion per annum.

But this has since changed markedly. Since 2005, China has stopped purchasing Russian warships or warplanes, and has ceased signing new multi-billion dollar arms sale contracts. For the most part, Russian suppliers have been fulfilling past contracts (such as delivering S-300 air defence missiles), modernizing previous deliveries, or supplying specialized technology, such as high-powered aircraft engines for fighter planes, where Russian manufactures retain a clear advantage. The director of Russia's state-controlled arms export company, Rosoboronexport, has forecast that the value of Russian arms sold to China could decline to as little as 10 percent of the value of all Russian military exports in the coming years.

But the defence firm chief we had dinner with insisted that Russian firms still saw opportunities for additional lucrative arms sales to China. Although he recognized that Russia helped contribute to the improved quality of the Chinese defence industry through its license transfer of Su-27 technologies and other means, he still saw opportunities for profitable collaboration with the Chinese due to the recognition by many (if not all) members of the Chinese aerospace industry that China still needed to rely on foreign partners because its domestic industry remained unable to do everything by itself.

The defence firm chief added he also didn't consider the Chinese aircraft industry a competitive threat. When I asked about China's newly unveiled '5th-generation fighter,' he responded that the Chinese have a long way to go before they will produce a 'genuine' 5th-generation plane equivalent to the Russian T-50. He added that although some of the subsystems of China's J-20 might be considered 5th-generation, the Chinese still need much more time to combine all these subsystems effectively and produce a genuine state-of-the-art aircraft.

So what are the Russians worried about? Defence leaders seemed more focused on Central Asia, believing that instability in there will increase from the contagion effects of the social, economic and political disturbances in North Africa and from the withdrawal of NATO forces from Afghanistan in the coming years. Those I heard from are especially worried about renewed civil strife in Kyrgyzstan, the rise of Islamist militarism in Tajikistan, and the failure of the United States and NATO to stabilize the situation in Afghanistan before they withdraw their combat troops. Russian policymakers fear that complications resulting from these changes will increase the threat of terrorism and narcotics trafficking to Russia, as well as challenge Russian economic interests there, such as access and control over Central Asian oil and natural gas supplies.

To address the very real fears of chaos in Central Asia, Russia is relying heavily on the seven-member Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). One senior general responsible for Russian military planning and operations argued that member states, which include Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, had overcome many of the deficiencies that he confirmed the CSTO experienced last summer, when it was paralyzed during the Kyrgyzstan crisis. He said that the CSTO now has the military capacity, the operational plans and the legal foundation to undertake rapid interventions in Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, or even possibly Afghanistan under the rubric of anti-terrorism, peacekeeping, or other justifications.

He said he also felt the military leaders of the CSTO members had achieved a genuine meeting of minds about the organization. Kazakhstan, for example, had become an especially close partner of Russia in the building of a new and more effective CSTO, and the general said he is looking forward to the major exercise the CSTO plans to hold this summer and early autumn to confirm this progress. He and other Russians urged NATO to develop relations directly with the CSTO given the likelihood that it will play a greater role in Central Asia when Western troops leave Afghanistan.

Interestingly, though, it became increasingly clear from our meetings that Russia's military and civilian leaders view the CSTO's potential quite differently. In contrast to the optimism expressed by Russian military leaders regarding the organization's future coherence and capabilities, Russia's civilian defence policy makers and analysts consider the divergent security perspectives of member states a major problem. For example, CSTO members Belarus and even Armenia are preoccupied with fundamentally different security problems from the four Central Asian members. For this reason, they see the CSTO primarily as a 'political' organization confirming Moscow's primacy in Central Asia, rather than as a major military force.

They likewise downplayed the military potential of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which unlike the CSTO includes China but not Armenia and Belarus. They said they believed it would continue to focus on countering terrorism rather than developing the capabilities for joint military operations among its member states. In their view, the SCO also had a primarily political function, dampening a potential rivalry between China and Russia for control over Central Asia.

Looking further afield, Russian defence officials spoke highly of Moscow's security relations with Turkey, arguing that the country is Russia's main partner in ensuring the security of the Black Sea from pirates, terrorists, and other threats. They said, for example, that they regretted that other Black Sea countries have declined Russian and Turkish proposals to expand multilateral security cooperation in the Black Sea region, through which considerable amounts of Asian oil and gas traverse en route to European markets.

Yet despite Turkey's membership in NATO, missile defence remains a tense issue between Russia and the West. The fundamental problem is that, unlike their NATO counterparts, Russian leaders don't consider Iran a threat to European security. As one senior defence ministry official put it, 'the Iranians are not crazy. They would never attack Europe.' And the official considered a potential Iranian threat to Russia equally improbable. 'From my perspective,' he said, 'the real threat to Russia comes from Pakistan,' although he made clear this threat arose simply from the dangerous co-location of nuclear materials and Islamist extremists that equally alarms Western officials.

Given these divergent threat perceptions, and bearing in mind the message at one Russian briefing stating that the United States was simply using the Iranian threat as an excuse to construct a more extensive missile defence system against Russia, the senior defence ministry official said he saw little reason why his country should help construct a missile defence system that could potentially threaten Russia's nuclear forces. They were, he said, prepared to look the other way if NATO wants to 'waste all that money' on building a missile defence, but only if Russia received written guarantees that the system's capabilities would remain sufficiently limited so as not to threaten Russia's nuclear forces.

And what of the other rising power, India? The defence firm chief expressed some irritation at the Indians for forgetting that it was Russia, rather than India, that is the leading partner in their defence relationship. He noted, for example, that despite the decision of the Indian defence ministry to eliminate the Russian (and US) planes from their latest round of competition to sell India its next multi-role fighter, he still considered India a good sales market — as long as the Indians appreciate that Russia has some 'useful things' to offer.
 

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Indian Defence Minister to visit Moscow next month

Indian Defence Minister to visit Moscow next month​


The two countries are working on several important defence projects, including the co-development and joint production of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (in pic) and a multi-role transport aircraft.


NEW DELHI (PTI): Indian Defence Minister A K Antony will visit Moscow next month to further strengthen and expand military ties between India and Russia.

Preparations have already started at high-level for the India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation to be held in the first week of October, Ministry officials said.

Secretary (Defence Production) Shekhar Agarwal is already in Moscow and Defence Secretary will be going there next month for preparing the ground for the institutionalised defence meeting between the two countries, they said.

During the meeting with his Russian counterpart, Antony is expected to discuss all the issues in their military ties and also discuss possible future partnerships.

India and Russia share a strong military relationship which has been occasionally marred by issues such as the increase in price of aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov and delays in delivery of equipment ordered by New Delhi.

The two sides are working on several important defence projects, including the co-development and joint production of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) and a multi-role transport aircraft.

Russia, even after India's decision to diversify its military hardware procurement base, remains the largest supplier of weapons to New Delhi.

The two countries have also worked together to coproduce world's only and fastest supersonic cruise missile BRAHMOS.


Indian Defence Minister to visit Moscow next month - Brahmand.com
 

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Russia – India: Interests define the policy



October 12, 2011 Elena Krovvidi


How can Putin's return to presidency affect Russian-Indian relationship? In anticipation of the results of Russian election Indian analysts debate on the Indian take on a possible political "wind of change" in Russia.

A recent visit of the Indian Defence Minister A.K.Antony to Russia served as a platform for a number of important steps such as the confirmation of the delivery schedule for aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and the lease of the K-152 Nerpa nuclear submarine. These are some of the areas of the long-term plan that envisages military cooperation between Russia and India up to 2020, which is the longest cooperation agreement that India has in this sphere. However, one should see a bigger picture behind the armaments deals. The impending election in Russia and much speculated on Russian current PM Vladimir Putin's running for President could mean changing the tone of the relationship between the two countries.

Indian journalist and parliamentarian Tarun Vijay suggests that while welcoming the possibility of Putin's taking the wheel, "building up its independent capabilities" may be beneficial for India. Although there are no grounds to expect the drastic changes in the Russian foreign policy as far as India is concerned still the power balance in the Russia-India-China equation may shift, especially in light of the recent Vladimir Putin's visit to China and resulting agreements on broadening of Russian-Chinese economic cooperation from traditional industries to high technology industries and signing $7 billion deals.

There have already been changes in Soviet-Indian relationship scenario under Gorbachev when despite remaining committed to friendship the USSR drifted a bit towards China in its foreign policy, and therefore Vijay doesn't rule out a probability of India's reconsidering its relationship with Russia and transforming Indian "complete dependence on Moscow" situation into a "healthy strategic partnership". While there are a sufficient number of factors that bring BRICS countries, and particularly India and Russia, together, for instance Islamist threat or US politics of dominance, still there is motivation to proceed cautiously in this cooperation. The situations such as the Vikramaditya (former Admiral Gorshkov) modernization delay and a resulting increase in costs as well as other situation with spare parts delays from the Russian side may induce the Indians to boost domestic spare parts production for the hardware supplied by the Russians.

But the medal has two sides and despite differences and disagreements, Russia and India still remain all-weather friends especially in view of Russian steady support of India in its conflict with Pakistan and India's standing by the former USSR and present day Russia in its rivalry with the USA in the space and military industries. But as a popular saying goes, a hedge between keeps friendship green. So may be as it often happens even in the closest relationships there is a need for space and room for development for each of the parties, and it can happily coexist with long-term strategic partnership.

Russia – India: Interests define the policy | Russia & India Report
 

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Manmohan Singh to visit Russia on December 16


Thursday, Nov 17, 2011


Prime Minister Manmohan Singh will arrive here on December 16 to attend the annual Indo-Russian summit.

The announcement was made by External Affairs Minister SM Krishna, who arrived here today on a three-day visit to finalise political and economic agenda of the summit.

Krishna met his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov and is understood to have discussed key regional and global issues including the situation in Afghanistan, West Asia and Syria.

Krishna and Lavrov are also expected to finalise the draft of joint political document to be issued after Singh's last Kremlin summit talks with his Russian host Dmitry Medvedev, who will be demitting his office in early May 2012 after next March's presidential polls.

Manmohan Singh to visit Russia on December 16 - India - DNA
 

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Krishna to visit Russia next week; Dr.Singh to visit in Dec
External Affairs Minister S M Krishna will visit Russia next week to finalise the non- military cooperation agenda for the December Summit between the two countries and co-chair an inter-governmental Joint Commission on trade and other matters.

"Krishna will visit Russia on November 17-19 to attend the 17th session of the Inter-governmental Joint Commission" on Trade, Economic, Scientific, Technological and Cultural Cooperation, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said.

Besides co-chairing the Joint Commission session with Russian Vice Premier Sergei Ivanov, Krishna will finalise the non-military cooperation agenda for the Moscow summit next month.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh will visit Russia on December 16-17 to attend the Summit at the invitation of President Dmitry Medvedev.


Krishna is also scheduled to hold key talks with his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, Lukashevich said.

Addressing the Fifth Indo-Russian Business Forum in the presence of Commerce Minister Anand Sharma yesterday, Russian Vice Premier Ivanov announced that the first block of Kudankulam nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu will be commissioned by the end of this year.

He also said India will be the main Russian partner in the commercialisation of the GLONASS, a space-based navigation system to rival the US Pentagon-controlled Global Positioning System (GPS).

According to earlier Russian media reports, during his last month''s Moscow visit for the Joint Inter-governmental Commission on Military-Technical Cooperation, Defence Minister AK Antony had reached an agreement for receiving signals from GLONASS military segment for precision guidance of Indian missiles and aircraft.

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[h=2]Official Visit of Prime Minister to the Russian Federation[/h]December 08, 2011

Prime Minister of India Dr. Manmohan Singh will pay an official visit to Moscow on 15-17 December, 2011, at the invitation of President Dmitry Medvedev, for the annual bilateral Indo-Russian summit. During his visit, the Prime Minister will hold talks with President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin, in addition to other engagements.

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India and Russia to discuss comprehensive economic pact
India and Russia will add another facet to their bilateral relationship by holding talks on a Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CEPA), an omnibus free trade agreement, during Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's confabulations with the top Russian leadership here on Friday.

India and Russia have very close ties in defence, science & technology, nuclear and space sectors but have been trying to plug the gap of low bilateral trade for a number of years with modest success. "We are ultimately looking at a common Eurasian market," said government sources while referring to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's vision of having a customs union with several republics of the former Soviet Union.

"With Russia, most of the issues relating to CEPA have been sorted out. But we have to now see how this fits in with the Russia plan of customs union."

For India, tailoring the CEPA to fit in with Russia's customs union with Kazakhstan, by far the largest Central Asian country, and Byelorussia will help enlarge the market for Indian entrepreneurs.

The sources said the summit meeting between Dr. Singh and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will address the deadlock in talks on Kudankulam 3 and 4 civil nuclear reactors by declaring their broad concurrence to all the terms and conditions but a signing ceremony is not on the cards. A joint statement to be issued after the summit meeting is slated to take the civil nuclear partnership between the two countries a step forward. On the Russian offer to host an Indian enrichment and reprocessing (ENR) plant on its soil and offer shares to New Delhi does not seem to have found favour as yet with South Block. In a move that began in the G-8, the Nuclear Suppliers Group has tightened rules for transfer of ENR equipment and technology. India terms this unfair because the exemption given by NSG, it says, was for the full fuel cycle of which ENR is a part. Caught between the need to honour their commitment to India and the need to comply with the decision taken by the civil nuclear cartel, Moscow sought to find a middle path by suggesting that the plant be set up in Russia. "We are still talking. We haven't reached closure. Russia has international obligations to which they would be sensitive. We already have the full fuel cycle [and are in no hurry]. So let us see how to cooperate,'' said the government sources.

The sources said one of India's major defence acquisition in terms of technology and ability to strike fear in the adversary – the Nerpa nuclear-powered submarine – will be leased by the end of next month. Unlike a diesel submarine, the nuclear powered version does not have to intermittently come up for air to recharge its batteries, and can thus lurk beneath the waves for indefinite periods giving no clue about its location.

Hydrocarbons will be another focus area where India has been trying to close several exploration deals without much success. After demurring for years when the offer was made on a platter, India has now evinced interest in the blocks off Yamal Peninsula. It is also keen on a stake in Sakhalin-III and the Trebs and Titov gas fields.

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India-Russia Defence talks postponed to October 10

The India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGC-MTC) meeting, which was to be held tomorrow in Delhi has been deferred to October, the Indian Ministry of Defence said in a press-release.

The meeting, which was to be co-chaired by Indian Defence Minister A. K. Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov was cancelled due to the "inability" of the Russian Defence Minister to travel to India as scheduled, according to the press-release. "It has been conveyed by the Russian side that the Russian Defence Minister was required to stay in Russia for his urgent participation in a programme of the Russian President," the Indian ministry said.

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Thorny issues in India-Russia engagement

Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to India should dispel speculation about hiccups in bilateral ties.

When Moscow unexpectedly rescheduled Mr. Putin's visit from October-end to December-end, media and analysts in both countries attributed the delay to unresolved problems.

There were reasons for such conjectures: Russia was unhappy with India's refusal to waive civil liability for units III and IV of the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant (KNPP) and failure to secure Russian telecom company Sistema's massive investment in the joint venture, Sistema Shyam TeleServices Ltd (SSTL), while India was concerned over a year-long delay in the delivery of the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier.

However, as time went by, it became clear that contentious bilateral issues had little to do with the postponement. Mr. Putin had cancelled all foreign trips and stopped travelling for eight weeks in October and November because of reported problems with his back.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov admitted that his sports-loving boss had pulled a muscle while exercising, but denied he had serious health problems.

Whatever problems the Russian leader may have had, he seems to have brought them under control and in December resumed his usual hectic travel schedule.

Mr. Putin's visit to India will be his first as Russia's President in five years. He returned to the top Kremlin job earlier this year after serving as Prime Minister for the past four years. It was Mr. Putin who restored the warmth of Indo-Russian relations when he succeeded Boris Yeltsin 12 years ago, and bilateral ties have been on the rise ever since.

"Political-level relations as well as government-to-government and people-to-people contacts have never been as close as they are today," said India's Ambassador to Russia Ajai Malhotra.

Russia remains India's most trusted and valuable defence partner. It reaffirmed its readiness to share cutting-edge weapons technologies, leasing out the nuclear submarine Chakra and offering to jointly develop the fifth-generation fighter aircraft. The coming summit may see the two sides seal multi-billion deals for the supply of Su-30MKI fighters, Mi-17 helicopters, aircraft engines and tank missiles.

Mr. Putin is also expected to endorse India's efforts to expand its involvement in the Russian energy sector, with talks currently focusing on the development of new oil and gas fields in Russia's Far East, Siberia and the Arctic region.

The perceived irritants in the relations have been blown far out of proportion by the media and interested parties. Informed Russian sources said the liability issue for Kudankulam III and IV will be resolved by somewhat raising the price tag for the Russian-built reactors. Problems with boiler insulation on the Vikramaditya are unfortunate, but should not obscure the fact that overall, the aircraft carrier demonstrated admirable seaworthiness, manoeuvrability and aircraft takeoff and landing capacity during the trials.

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The cancellation of Sistema's licences for CDMA services is a more serious problem. The company's $3.1-billion investment, including $700 million of government funds, should have been a trail-blazing example of a successful foray by Russian business in India, but may end up discouraging other potential investors. That said, the Kremlin is not prepared to let the row mar Mr. Putin's visit, informed sources said.

If the disputes over Kudankulam and Sistema have been pushed to the forefront of the bilateral agenda, it is only because of an unacceptably low level of commercial links: trade hardly exceeds the combined price of two reactors for Kudankulam, plus Sistema's investment in Shyam Telecom.

This year, trade has posted a robust 30 per cent growth, but still amounts to just $11 billion, and, with some luck, could hit the $20-billion target set by the two governments for 2015. By that time, India's and Russia's trade with China will be well above $100 billion for each.

Achieving a quantum jump in trade and economic ties will be the biggest challenge for Mr. Putin during his five-year term till 2018 and for India. Without a solid economic foundation, the two countries would find it hard to sustain the current high level of their "special and privileged strategic partnership".

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