Indian Navy Issues RFI For Carrier Fighters

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    Navy Plans to carryout trials of new fighter jets for INS Vikramaditya, INS Vikrant Soon
    Published July 29, 2017 SOURCE: INDIA TODAY

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    Looking to buy 57 fighter aircraft to augment its fleet, the Indian Navy recently invited foreign vendors to carry out trials to see if the planes could operate off the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya. French Rafale, Swedish Saab Sea Gripen, Russian MiG-29K and American F-18 are the contenders for the over Rs 75,000 crore mega deal of the maritime force.”The foreign vendors were asked to prove that their aircraft would be able to operate off our Russian-origin aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya,” a senior Navy source told MAIL TODAY. Aircraft manufacturers, including the French Rafale and American F-18, had taken part in the trials and were asked to provide more inputs on their respective plane’s capabilities to be able to take off and land at the Vikramaditya, the sources said. The trials were held at INS Vikramaditya’s home-base in Karwar in Karnataka. The 57 new planes would be used for operations from the INS Vikramaditya and the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) being built at the Cochin Shipyard Limited in Kochi along with the 45 MiG29Ks already imported from Russia.

    DIFFERENCE IN TAKE-OFF SYSTEMS

    There is a huge difference in take off systems on board the aircraft carriers of Russian and Western origin. While the aircraft on Western carriers are launched using a steam-powered catapult while on the Russian platforms, they take off from an angled ski-jump – the launch mechanism on both the Vikramaditya and the underconstruction IAC. The need for buying new super expensive aircraft came up after the Navy rejected the naval version of the indigenous light combat aircraft as it wanted a twin-engine fighter with a stronger airframe and landing gear to operate from a flight deck with high-tempo flying cycles. As per the requirement projected by the Navy, it wants to manufacture these planes in India as the Request for Information had asked the original equipment manufacturers to respond to it. It also sought to know at what level of Transfer of Technology (ToT) and deep repair expertise the company is willing to share with India. It also asked the vendor to specify critical technologies required and comment on its ability to absorb the aircraft manufacturing technology at the levels of sub vendor/supply chain elements in India through ToT from OEM and its partners.

    DELIVERY

    As regards the delivery schedule, the first lot of jets have to be delivered in three years after inking of the contract and all the 57 have to be delivered in the next three years. The existing fleet of the MiG-29K planes has been creating a number of problems for the maritime force as they are not yet ruggedised enough for aircraft carrier operations as was reported by MAIL TODAY recently. The planes have also been facing engine problems and the Navy had taken up the issue with Russia whose engineers and technicians are working to address the issues as the planes are still in warranty period. With two aircraft carriers and over five squadrons of maritime strike aircraft, the Indian Navy would be emerging as a very strong force to reckon with.

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    This will be a street fight between the MiG 29k and the f 18 hornet with the odds stat in favour of the superbug why I say the super hornet is because I have a feeling that India would choose the hornet to compensate for the eminent disqualification of the f 16 block 70 and keep uncle Sam happy the purchase of the fighters for the Navy will also be dictated bye strategic interest more than technical or other factors as is the case with most weapons purchase in India
     
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    In case Snecma and GTRE uprate Kaveri and we have a K9 and K10 to standards, and in time; we should contemplate having a MIG fleet with our own engines, since training and qualifications are in full swing. Otherwise the hornet will fit in perfectly as the F 414INS6 will be a great common platform between Tejas and the F/A - 18.
     
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    Rafale or F/A-18 ? Super Hornet or Rafale ?

    Why not both :tongue:



     
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    Without catapults the delta wing of Rafale should give it better payload.
     
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    My personel choice would be Rafale M fighter jet. Let's wait and see which fighter jet would Indian Navy select.
     
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    F-18 Advanced Super Hornet have advantage in terms of cost and pricing.
     
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    Isn't cost and pricing the same thing? They should add one more adjective and call it the Advanced Super Duper Hornet for good measure.
     
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    I would like to see Rafale M fighter jet in Indian Navy. Rather F-18 Super Hornet. When will France would reveal Rafale F 4.
     
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    navy wants twin engine....fighter for carrier operation...
    Nlca has already done sky jump ...

    only arrested recovery will be done ........and this experience s will be used in namca in future.....
     
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    Indian Navy just like other navies want twin engine fighters for carrier operations for better reliability and survivability.....

    Also NLCA won't be able to carry meaningful weapons and fuel loads to be effective in carrier fighter role.... Maybe IN should consider LCAs for coastal patrolling and security...
     
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    This deal will goto the F-18s... the teens shall win. Calling it out
     
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    They needed to be catobar capable to even come under consideration
     
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    With CAATSA law in place in US and applied to S-400 purchase from Russia, I very much doubt that any deal with a Boeing for purchase of naval version of fighter jets could ever be completed.
     
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    India should opt for Mig 29Ks and use this tender to negotiate for TOT for license prodycprod. Also, the next carrier need to be of similar design to our firsy indegeneous one.
    We do not have unlimited defense budget and our defense priorities should not be dictated by import lobbysts.
    We have already paid for the development of Mig29Ks. If there are defects to be rectified, that should be done.
    EMALs is not yet mature technology and already has problems. Our next aircraft carrier should be built on mature technology.
     

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