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WION #Exclusive | Pakistani first female astronaut and scientist @namirasalim lauds @isro for #Chandrayaan2. She says its a giant leap for South Asia
  1. No need to post her over & over. Check his Twitter account, she's just gathering publicity through India.
  2. No, she isn't an astronaut. She's just another NOMINEE. There has been no Pakistani origin astronaut till date.
 

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  1. No need to post her over & over. Check his Twitter account, she's just gathering publicity through India.
  2. No, she isn't an astronaut. She's just another NOMINEE. There has been no Pakistani origin astronaut till date.
She is a part Virgin galatic space tourists.
 

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Iceland's Kids Gaga Over Chandrayaan-2 During President Kovind Visit

Children holding Indian and Icelandic flags welcomed Indian President Ram Nath Kovind to the country at his ceremonial reception along with Guðni Thorlacius Jóhannesson, the President of Iceland. Both President Kovind and Jóhannesson narrated the story of India's historic mission to the Moon, Chandrayaan-2, to the eager children. Kovind spoke of the bold mission attempted by India which has been an inspiration to many all across the world.

#Chandrayaan2 - a story of inspiring the kids world over!

Icelandic children were all ears to @PresidentISL Johannesson talking to them about India’s #Chandrayaan2 during the ceremonial reception of President Kovind. pic.twitter.com/2paejF7ovD

— President of India (@rashtrapatibhvn) September 11, 2019
This was a first for an Indian President to visit the Nordic Island nation, since APJ Abdul Kalam in 2005.

https://www.republicworld.com/india...r-chandrayaan-2-during-president-kovind-visit
 

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Refer China. They were just as bad off as us in the 50s. How come they developed and we were left behind? The government and it's self-serving policies.

Most of the all the moron Nehru whose decisions we are still paying for.
Look, I'm not a fan of Nehru bashing or indeed of most leaders . Hindsight is always 20/20. With the exception of Rahul Gandhi, not all Congress leaders can be tarnished completely. Sure, there are many mistakes and almost definitely, their push to socialism messed up a lot of things but this was not an easy change to be made when they did it. It's not like Modi's economic policies are anything to Tom Tom out, he's as big a fan of big government as any socialist. We have had two stretches where economic plans were different, during PVN and ABV. That's it.

China grew post the mid 1980's and that kind of change was not politically acceptable in india. For heavens sake even now Modi's government struggles with labour laws that are made for the last century.

It's easy to criticize and easier to blame it on people you dislike but the reason for our situation is complex and must be understood that way.
 

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Look, I'm not a fan of Nehru bashing or indeed of most leaders . Hindsight is always 20/20. With the exception of Rahul Gandhi, not all Congress leaders can be tarnished completely. Sure, there are many mistakes and almost definitely, their push to socialism messed up a lot of things but this was not an easy change to be made when they did it. It's not like Modi's economic policies are anything to Tom Tom out, he's as big a fan of big government as any socialist. We have had two stretches where economic plans were different, during PVN and ABV. That's it.

China grew post the mid 1980's and that kind of change was not politically acceptable in india. For heavens sake even now Modi's government struggles with labour laws that are made for the last century.

It's easy to criticize and easier to blame it on people you dislike but the reason for our situation is complex and must be understood that way.
Nehru started this clusterfuck called socialism that has crippled innovation and wealth creation in this country. Sucking big government's teat to survive has become a habit/addiction of the general Indian economic mindset. Indira then nationalised all the big banks and taxed & regulated businesses at unsustainable rates thus resulting in the creation of black money in India and babudom.

By taking advantage of the government apparatus Sanjay and then Rajiv made scams which were an occasional occurrence due to Gandhian stewardship hangover from independence days in Congress turn into a regular occurence of impossibly large sums. Sonia just followed in her husband's footsteps and Pappu held onto his mama's pallu.

China opened up to the West after Nixon turned them into a neutral partner. In the 1980s - 90s they were where India was in the 2000s in the global food chain thanks primarily to their nukes and size. After Clinton came to power, they were admitted into the WTC and then the outsourcing chutiyapa started thanks to NAFTA.

Lobbying for outsourcing by big businesses was used as a means to escape from unions that emerged in the 40s and cultural shift in the 60s and using Reagan's policy of free market deregulation. The original intent was to transition to a services market with consumer manufacturing relegated to asian markets. Japan died out due to deflation but China persisted and thrived because US did not factor rare earth magnet production used in semiconductors into their calculations.

Modi is trying to modernise the economy via GST, Demo and digitisation to allow ease of business and by allowing and encouraging FII/FDI to startups and JVs to allow private sector to compete with PSUs. Rejigging PSUs will allow them to keep existing base and also provide a state sponsored solution to consumer. The free market will then find it's own equilibrium as degree of entropy stabilizes.
 

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Look, I'm not a fan of Nehru bashing or indeed of most leaders . Hindsight is always 20/20. With the exception of Rahul Gandhi, not all Congress leaders can be tarnished completely. Sure, there are many mistakes and almost definitely, their push to socialism messed up a lot of things but this was not an easy change to be made when they did it. It's not like Modi's economic policies are anything to Tom Tom out, he's as big a fan of big government as any socialist. We have had two stretches where economic plans were different, during PVN and ABV. That's it.

China grew post the mid 1980's and that kind of change was not politically acceptable in india. For heavens sake even now Modi's government struggles with labour laws that are made for the last century.

It's easy to criticize and easier to blame it on people you dislike but the reason for our situation is complex and must be understood that way.
Your naivety is assuming the Nehru-Gandhis acted from good intentions and their poor decisions were simply mistakes.
 

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Nehru started this clusterfuck called socialism that has crippled innovation and wealth creation in this country. Sucking big government's teat to survive has become a habit/addiction of the general Indian economic mindset. Indira then nationalised all the big banks and taxed & regulated businesses at unsustainable rates thus resulting in the creation of black money in India and babudom.

By taking advantage of the government apparatus Sanjay and then Rajiv made scams which were an occasional occurrence due to Gandhian stewardship hangover from independence days in Congress turn into a regular occurence of impossibly large sums. Sonia just followed in her husband's footsteps and Pappu held onto his mama's pallu.

China opened up to the West after Nixon turned them into a neutral partner. In the 1980s - 90s they were where India was in the 2000s in the global food chain thanks primarily to their nukes and size. After Clinton came to power, they were admitted into the WTC and then the outsourcing chutiyapa started thanks to NAFTA.

Lobbying for outsourcing by big businesses was used as a means to escape from unions that emerged in the 40s and cultural shift in the 60s and using Reagan's policy of free market deregulation. The original intent was to transition to a services market with consumer manufacturing relegated to asian markets. Japan died out due to deflation but China persisted and thrived because US did not factor rare earth magnet production used in semiconductors into their calculations.

Modi is trying to modernise the economy via GST, Demo and digitisation to allow ease of business and by allowing and encouraging FII/FDI to startups and JVs to allow private sector to compete with PSUs. Rejigging PSUs will allow them to keep existing base and also provide a state sponsored solution to consumer. The free market will then find it's own equilibrium as degree of entropy stabilizes.
Its a wrong perception of history... socialism was fashion in those time... RSS and other right wing were not supporter of open market in those times ,they opposed everything from culture to product.. They would nt have done anything better . Even bhagat singh,subash chandra bosh all belonged to socialist catagory..That was the age when foreign companys were feared.. It was Manmohan singh in 1991 who brought economic liberalization despite critics from right and left..which gradually resulted in faster growth.. And GST as a concept was introduced by Atal Bihari Bajpayee and GST bill was 1st conceptialised by UPA 2 ... Supporting Modi on defence matter is fine but lets stick to the facts.. demonitization was a stroke for small and medium industries..corporate investment was down by 60%..Modi govt on economic front has more or less failed.. Our growth is at 5% now..That too after changing base year.. and God knows wht changes they might have brought in to statistical calculation.. manufacturing growth is at historic low.. Lets hope future ll b brighter..
 
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Its a wrong perception of history... socialism was fashion in those time... RSS and other right wing were not supporter of open market in those times ,they opposed everything from culture to product.. They would nt have done anything better . Even bhagat singh,subash chandra bosh all belonged to socialist catagory..That was the age when foreign companys were feared.. It was Manmohan singh in 1991 who brought economic liberalization despite critics from right and left..which gradually resulted in faster growth.. And GST as a concept was introduced by Atal Bihari Bajpayee and GST bill was 1st conceptialised by UPA 2 ... Supporting Modi on defence matter is fine but lets stick to the facts.. demonitization was a stroke for small and medium industries..corporate investment was down by 60%..Modi govt on economic front has more or less failed.. Our growth is at 5% now..That too after changing base year.. and God knows wht changes they might have brought in to statistical calculation.. manufacturing growth is at historic low.. Lets hope future ll b brighter..
Please reread my post. Unless your are shilling you have your facts wrong.

The current slowdown is because of liquidity crunch owing to NPAs accumulating in NBFCs and Banks which have slowed borrowing and hence consumption.
 

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Retail inflation rises marginally to 3.2% in August, industrial output at 4.3% in July

Retail inflation rose marginally to 3.21 per cent in August while industrial output jumped to 4.3 per cent.

HIGHLIGHTS
  • Retail inflation in the month of August rose marginally to 3.21 per cent from 3.15 per cent in July
  • A Reuters polls predicted consumer price inflation (CPI) to rise up to 3.3 per cent
  • India's industrial output has witnessed a recovery in July as it jumped 4.3 per cent from just 2 per cent in June

Retail inflation in the month of August rose marginally to 3.21 per cent from 3.15 per cent in July due to a rise in food prices, showed official data released on Thursday.

Earlier, a Reuters polls predicted consumer price inflation (CPI) to rise up to 3.3 per cent. The fact inflation has remained low for the past 13 months is a positive sign for the country and the Reserve Bank of India.

According to data, the CPI inflation outlook for most indicators seems to be under control expect food and fuel.

Meanwhile, the country's industrial output has witnessed a recovery in July as it jumped 4.3 per cent from just 2 per cent in June. July manufacturing out has been recorded at 4.2 per cent, which is another positive sign for the ailing economy.

This is one of the few good developments that has emerged over the last two months as the government continues to face tough questions on slow economic growth.

https://www.indiatoday.in/business/...y-industrial-output-at-4-3-1598504-2019-09-12
 

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Look, I'm not a fan of Nehru bashing or indeed of most leaders . Hindsight is always 20/20. With the exception of Rahul Gandhi, not all Congress leaders can be tarnished completely. Sure, there are many mistakes and almost definitely, their push to socialism messed up a lot of things but this was not an easy change to be made when they did it. It's not like Modi's economic policies are anything to Tom Tom out, he's as big a fan of big government as any socialist. We have had two stretches where economic plans were different, during PVN and ABV. That's it.

China grew post the mid 1980's and that kind of change was not politically acceptable in india. For heavens sake even now Modi's government struggles with labour laws that are made for the last century.

It's easy to criticize and easier to blame it on people you dislike but the reason for our situation is complex and must be understood that way.
Nehru did this in a meeting in 1955... I don’t see anything but arrogance...
 

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Its a wrong perception of history... socialism was fashion in those time... RSS and other right wing were not supporter of open market in those times ,they opposed everything from culture to product.. They would nt have done anything better . Even bhagat singh,subash chandra bosh all belonged to socialist catagory..That was the age when foreign companys were feared.. It was Manmohan singh in 1991 who brought economic liberalization despite critics from right and left..which gradually resulted in faster growth.. And GST as a concept was introduced by Atal Bihari Bajpayee and GST bill was 1st conceptialised by UPA 2 ... Supporting Modi on defence matter is fine but lets stick to the facts.. demonitization was a stroke for small and medium industries..corporate investment was down by 60%..Modi govt on economic front has more or less failed.. Our growth is at 5% now..That too after changing base year.. and God knows wht changes they might have brought in to statistical calculation.. manufacturing growth is at historic low.. Lets hope future ll b brighter..

The economic situation is not good in almost all around the world, so Modi can't do much in this, we are part of the global economic power so whatever happened in some other major country will have its affect on India.. the small countries like Afghanistam will not have any problem due to global economic meltdown..

Anyway.. we Hindus or Indians are very selfish we worry more about money than national security... I don't mind less GDP if I have to choose national security and social security concern..

This is new scam by Khangress to malign BJP or Modi about economy or GDP.

Don't fall for it
 

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Your naivety is assuming the Nehru-Gandhis acted from good intentions and their poor decisions were simply mistakes.
The naivety of you and most of Indian friends here is assuming that India private companies would acted from good intentions and purely based on India's national interest in the early stage. Just have a look at what happened in South East Asia, South America and Africa, the private capital over there continued to work closely with their foreign partners/masters after national independence at the cost of their homeland. After all, that was the business model that they were built from the beginning.
 

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The naivety of you and most of Indian friends here is assuming that India private companies would acted from good intentions and purely based on India's national interest in the early stage. Just have a look at what happened in South East Asia, South America and Africa, the private capital over there continued to work closely with their foreign partners/masters after national independence at the cost of their homeland. After all, that was the business model that they were built from the beginning.
At one time South Korea was poorer than Pakistan. Today they are a developed first world country. Why? Because their leaders didn't put a jackboot on the throats of private industry and allowed them to compete on equal footing with foreign companies. The president at that time even purged commies brutally.

Even China understands that you need to have business friendly policies to allow for market growth and employment at a rapid pace.
 

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At one time South Korea was poorer than Pakistan. Today they are a developed first world country. Why? Because their leaders didn't put a jackboot on the throats of private industry and allowed them to compete on equal footing with foreign companies. The president at that time even purged commies brutally.
Obviously, you know nothing about South Korea economic background after 1945.
Firstly, there was no Korean private capital or big companies before 1945. All of them belonged to Japanese. After WW2, these capital and corporations were confiscated by Korea government. Later, these were sold or given cheaply to Koreans who were not involved with Japanese during colonial period.

Even China understands that you need to have business friendly policies to allow for market growth and employment at a rapid pace.
Again, incorrect example because CCP did even worse than Nehru: they wipe out the whole capitalist class.

Both South Korea and China proved one thing: In order to build an independent and prosperous country, the first step is making sure your own capital (private and national) serves your country's interest, if it doesn't, destroy them and build a new one.
 

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Obviously, you know nothing about South Korea economic background after 1945.
Firstly, there was no Korean private capital or big companies before 1945. All of them belonged to Japanese. After WW2, these capital and corporations were confiscated by Korea government. Later, these were sold or given cheaply to Koreans who were not involved with Japanese during colonial period.
Most of the initial investment into Korea post Korean War came by way of the Americans as FMS and aid. It started with small scale consumer manufacturing and then evolved to electronics and semiconductor fabrication as time went on.

Again, incorrect example because CCP did even worse than Nehru: they wipe out the whole capitalist class.

Both South Korea and China proved one thing: In order to build an independent and prosperous country, the first step is making sure your own capital (private and national) serves your country's interest, if it doesn't, destroy them and build a new one.
Mao was a bigger idiot than Nehru. He bled his country dry with nonsense schemes like people smelting steel in their backyards and focusing entirely on heavy industry, neglecting consumer manufacturing.

That's why once Deng came along he got rid of the gang of 5. Nixon's visit took away the taboo of dealing with commie scum and afterwards manufacturing and capital came to China by way of Hong Kong, Taiwan, S. Korea.
Trump is now winding up the flow in the reverse order! :pound:
 

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Obviously, you know nothing about South Korea economic background after 1945.
Firstly, there was no Korean private capital or big companies before 1945. All of them belonged to Japanese. After WW2, these capital and corporations were confiscated by Korea government. Later, these were sold or given cheaply to Koreans who were not involved with Japanese during colonial period.



Again, incorrect example because CCP did even worse than Nehru: they wipe out the whole capitalist class.

Both South Korea and China proved one thing: In order to build an independent and prosperous country, the first step is making sure your own capital (private and national) serves your country's interest, if it doesn't, destroy them and build a new one.
THIS

Private or public does not matter what matters is performance and loyalty.

The importance of Performance is easily explainable to my fellow indians over here.

However for some reason loyalty to the nation is not easily understood as important .Even the biggest gun is useless if it does not fire when you want and at whomever you want.Control is important.

I think the indian populace in general is enamored with western memes of freedom and democracy enough to have difficulty in digesting the manhandling of private and public enterprises for national good by force than most other developing countries.
 

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