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What model are these?
Cessna XXXXX ?
What model are these?
Cessna XXXXX ?
[/COLOR][/B]Hal- Irkut Corporations Multi-role transport aircraft (MRTA): Hal and Russian company – Irkut Corporations is already working on 20 tons MRTA to replace aging An-32 from Indian air force, while An-32 was operated solely by Indian Air force, Indian Army is all set to order at least two dozen of this aircrafts for its own Aviation wings to help in transport of logistics and troops. This will be first time Indian army will be operating larger aircrafts. While MRTA will take to air by 2015 only and production will start by 2017, initial batch will go to Indian air force and Army will get them at near end of this decade.
I am kinda curious to see what the IAF has say about the Army operating fixed wing crafts. In the past they have fiercely resisted any such idea fearing it would diminish IAF's area of operation & might render some of the IAF's function redundant.This is a very good development for the IA's aviation wing. Hope they get more aircrafts of these type of platform, preferably a heavy lift one too in the future.
There is no problem with IAF, IAF is happy to see a CAS squadron of IA consist of light Aircraft such as AJTs / SU-25 / Turbo Props..That sounds stupid. Even if the IA gets a combat aircraft squadron for CAS, how does that affect the importance of IAF? IAFs role is to provide air supremacy in own airspace, air dominance in combat area and air defence in enemy territory. In addition, carry out ground strikes in combat area and deep strike missions in enemy territory. To do all this, IA will have to get an air wing about the same size as IAF - which is impossible.
One question:
During my visit to Port Blair, I saw helicopters and fixed wing aircraft circling the archipelago, probably keeping a watch.
Are these:
- IAF?
- IA Aviation Wing?
- Coast Guard?
Did not see the marking clearly. It was peacetime, i.e. India was not at war.
Thanks Kunal.If Blue : Navy
If White : Coast Guards
If Gray : IAF
If Green : IA
Almost every branch operate Helos from there..
Please read the report & my comment before you give any opinion on it. I am talking about IAF's reservation on IA operating fixed wing crafts not helos as IA already operates them. IA buying LCH for CAS not the MTAs. As you know, i am sure, MTAs are transport aircrafts. So IA operating transport aircrafts will definitely diminish IAF's role in that area & by the way there were reports a few years back that IAF opposed any move by the IA of operating fixed wing crafts within the MoD. That's why i said what i said. I am trying to find those reports. As soon as i find them i will post them for your convenience.That sounds stupid. Even if the IA gets a combat aircraft squadron for CAS, how does that affect the importance of IAF? IAFs role is to provide air supremacy in own airspace, air dominance in combat area and air defence in enemy territory. In addition, carry out ground strikes in combat area and deep strike missions in enemy territory. To do all this, IA will have to get an air wing about the same size as IAF - which is impossible.
AJT is a excellent platform for CAS, But it cannot be armored as SU-25 nor A-10 coz of smaller Engine..is it possible to modify the ijt sitara into a cas airfract similar to su-25 and a-10.it can be armoured and will be very cheap and the army can use it in large numbers.
I was refering to HJT-36 sitara only..^^ Kunal, I think he was talking about HJT-36, not AJT.
@shuvo@y2k10, ok, if my assumption is right let us look at the HJT-36.
This plane had a larger longitudinal span than lateral. Hence, while it can lose and gain altitude with relatively good alacrity, it cannot maneouver well when turning is involved. Also, the wing profile focuses on lift and not on speed. It uses either a Snecma Larzac or Russian AL-55I and is capable of Mach 0.8. The Max takeoff weight is 4,600 kg, (IJT)'.
The Aircraft is good, Maneuverability is also ok and its done by using Snecma Larzac not AL-55I
What we need from AJT/ IJT is to drop PGMs mostly, Specially over Kargil type battlefield at high altitude..2011- al-55i
I presume 2, As IA operate almost every Aircraft with crew of two..^^ Thanks for the detailed discussion Kunal.
One question, when used as CAS, is the HJT-36 still going to have a crew of two or one?
Thanks.
In reply to all the anti-commie rants of maomao, (even though I am not a commie supporter), all I can say is, "Chill". The maoists, naxals etc are creations of our own corrupt and nepotisitc society. Look at the regions were maoists operate. These are areas rich in natural resources, where wealth is created for the rich elites of the cities (mining of minerals and coal, logging in forests, hunting of rare animals and so on). For ages, the feudal lords used to exploit the people, then the british and finally the netas and babus of our own republic. The people here live over the biggest reserves of material wealth in our country and have the most abject lives. Sure now the government talks about "development" but they did jackshit in the last 60+ years. And irrespective of the parties - the Congress did nothing, the BJP - nothing, the so-called "communists" - nothing. So, no wonder that the assholes of a "maoist" resistance, who love to lick the discarded putrified maoist ideologies of "peasant-led communism" are using these people for their own benefits. They are forming their version of a meaningless "revolutionary" state - another tragic development in the long line of "revolutionary" developments in the history of the world. However, they are leading INDIAN CITIZENS against the state. Their followers are criminals, not foreign invaders. So, using the army or the airforce against the Indian Citizens is BAD - smells of totalitarian regimes like Gaddafi. If we go down that path, then there would be no tomorrow to a true egalitarian secular society in India.Jaguar is one of the finest CAS planes around.
Air ops against civilians were first undertaken in Manipur in the 50s (not sure of the date).
I think the present central govt has done more than other previous union govts have combined against the maoists, though I will concede that even that is not enough.
Basically a concerted state+central+public effort is required. Unfortunately the politicians lack the appetite to take the fight to the maoists, and lack the will to see this through. Status quo is yielding good results for the concerned parties as well.