India undermining Gwadar project: Pakistan army chief

[Zulfiqar Khan]

Few propaganda pictures go a long way for you. Care to give statistics rather than pictures.
The only thing going for you is China. China has excess capital and it is looking for places to invest.
You have no internal strength.
Soon China will also find what black hole Pakistan is.

Yes, every pixel of what I posted is pure 100% ISI, CIA, Raheel Sharif propaganda.

Serious, what the fuck are you guys smoking down there?

What statistics do you need?

And what do you mean by internal strength?

Pakistan is a geographically strategic area - they didnt invest randomly. 45 Billion dollars is alot; its enough to purchase 30 Aircraft carriers and build 40 of Burj Khalifas. Pakistan and the areas that are going to be invested towards was evaluated for 5 years.

If your still in a state of denial, I recommend you this.

 

[garg_bharat]

The terrorism index is BS.

People please do not get influenced by these bastards posting random manipulated data from a random website.

Pakistan has been and remains a hell hole of terrorism and jehadi.

China is ignoring terrorism and social instability in Pakistan to fulfil its grand vision which will come crashing down in time.

The current economic growth in Pakistan is all China driven. Do not forget that power plants need coal and people need to pay bills to buy coal. The roads are good but railway is kaput. The dream of transporting goods from Eastern China to Gwadar is an idle dream as cost of road transportation is too high compared to sea transport.

 

[garg_bharat]

Pakistani have a habit of quoting wrong and irrelevant data.

The latest report from the same source gives this in latest 2015 report:

1 Iraq 10
2 Afghanistan 9.233
3 Nigeria 9.213
4 Pakistan 9.065
5 Syria 8.108
6 India 7.747
7 Yemen 7.642
8 Somalia 7.6
9 Libya 7.29
10 Thailand 7.279

http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2015-Global-Terrorism-Index-Report.pdf

 

[Navnit Kundu]

We should join hands with Oman,Afghans and Iranians especially on Chabahar and except full support from Gulf states since Gwadar will undermine their ports trade.

Also,give moral,military and financial support to Baloch Tribals in their freedom struggle and Ass burns to this Saddam lookalike COAS.

This implies that muzzies are able to take rational decisions based on self-interest. Truth is, these OIC members have issued a statement upholding 'the rights of Kashmiri self-determination' and criticizing 'Indian occupation of Kashmir' in their joint OIC resolution yesterday. Every muzzie nation was involved but Turkey seemed to be taking a more than usual interest in projecting themselves as the leader of the Ummah. Erdogan even demanded a UN security council seat for the muslim Ummah citing that there are 1.6B muslims and they have no seat. They also jointly criticized Iran for supporting terrorism and meddling in the affairs of other nations. So this Ummah bullshit is on again. It's unlikely that they will act rationally.

If muzzies had the logistical capacity to think critically and act rationally, then we'd have seen at least some evidence of that in their 1000 year history, which is not the case. For them, groupism trumps logic anyway. No gulf state is proactively going to support India's bid to stall the CPEC. Even if they decide to, their support wont go beyond assuring India that they wont intervene in favor of Pakistan, but they wouldn't commit resources to actively counter Pakistan unlike what they have done for Syria.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Yes, every pixel of what I posted is pure 100% ISI, CIA, Raheel Sharif propaganda.

Serious, what the fuck are you guys smoking down there?

What statistics do you need?

And what do you mean by internal strength?

Pakistan is a geographically strategic area - they didnt invest randomly. 45 Billion dollars is alot; its enough to purchase 30 Aircraft carriers and build 40 of Burj Khalifas. Pakistan and the areas that are going to be invested towards was evaluated for 5 years.

If your still in a state of denial, I recommend you this.

And you do not have your own anti burn cream also. For that too, you rely on India. What a shame. Isn't it?

 

[Bornubus]

This implies that muzzies are able to take rational decisions based on self-interest. Truth is, these OIC members have issued a statement upholding 'the rights of Kashmiri self-determination' and criticizing 'Indian occupation of Kashmir' in their joint OIC resolution yesterday. Every muzzie nation was involved but Turkey seemed to be taking a more than usual interest in projecting themselves as the leader of the Ummah. Erdogan even demanded a UN security council seat for the muslim Ummah citing that there are 1.6B muslims and they have no seat. They also jointly criticized Iran for supporting terrorism and meddling in the affairs of other nations. So this Ummah bullshit is on again. It's unlikely that they will act rationally.

If muzzies had the logistical capacity to think critically and act rationally, then we'd have seen at least some evidence of that in their 1000 year history, which is not the case. For them, groupism trumps logic anyway. No gulf state is proactively going to support India's bid to stall the CPEC. Even if they decide to, their support wont go beyond assuring India that they wont intervene in favor of Pakistan, but they wouldn't commit resources to actively counter Pakistan unlike what they have done for Syria.

India is not some tiny state for entirely dependent on Musalman countries and to deal with Pakis.We have shown it in the past.

But their stand on Kashmir is a matter of concern.

 

[Navnit Kundu]

India is not some tiny state for entirely dependent on Musalman countries and to deal with Pakis.We have shown it in the past.

But their stand on Kashmir is a matter of concern.

It's not a matter of weakness or strength. The fact that they have decided to cross our red lines and provoke us implies that they have factored in our ineptitude and cowardice before doing so. One would imagine a country like Turkey which is engaged in a 6 front war (Syria, Iran, Israel, Greece, Kurds, Russia) would have its plate full and have a more reconciliatory view of other powers but it seems their arrogance knows no bounds.

It's small unchallenged diplomatic provocations like these which inspire others to confront us with larger strategic provocations. I'd be damned if this provocation goes unanswered. Turkey talking about the right of self determination of Kashmiris gives us moral right to talk about the right of self determination of Kurds living in Turkey. We should start inviting Kurdish leaders to hold talks and conclaves on our soil and at the same time start arming Kurds on the ground. This group is a breakaway faction of the Persian-Baloch tribes which broke away after the Islamic takeover of Persia, they are sympathetic to the Baloch liberation movement, so we will kill two birds with one stone by supporting the Kurdish movement.

If that sounds to revolutionary then the least we can do is invite Turkish ambassador and downgrade his diplomatic privileges and threaten to shut down all diplomatic ties if this happens again.

No provocation should go unanswered. Just yesterday, Turkey used its diplomatic office in Germany to pressurize Merkel to sue a journalist who made a poem critical of Erdogan's fascist tendencies. The surprising thing is that Germany complied like a loyal dog. These are the same nations which keep barking at India about freedom of speech and freedom of press.

 

[Zulfiqar Khan]

And you do not have your own anti burn cream also. For that too, you rely on India. What a shame. Isn't it?

No bhai, we dont need anything like that. Burnol manufactured in India for Indians.

We'd give two shits about India; but it is Indians who throw themselves ontop of us for attention.

 

[garg_bharat]

When you don't need us, why posting threads here.

You have better tasks like catching stray dogs, grooming moustache and beards, and playing sheik chilli.

 

[3deffect]

i think paksitan army cheif is so much scared he is dreaming in night... indian soilder invaded their gwader 46million project and captured pakistan...
i dont know why he is scared so much

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Indian Members aren't ought to troll otherwise it won't live any difference between them and us.
Please read about Mod warning toady.
I don't think we need to be banned for trolling.

 

[Bornubus]

when ?

also, kashmir is our land.

How is Kashmir your land.Hindus have prior claim over it due to religious significance.

 

[Bornubus]

I have kashmiri roots. not Hindus, kashmiris (hindus,muslims and Buddhists) have first claim on Land of Kashmir.

Kashmiri roots means you have Hindu/Buddhist roots who were converted in past.

Kashmir has a religious significance for us since antiquity, Shiva sutra found to inscribed here on stones before the invention of Paper.

Sages and Ascetic from far flung areas came here for meditation.

How can we give this to Pak.Moreover it would be a betrayal to native kashmiri Hindus especially Pandits.


This is just a social dimensions.Kashmir also have economic and strategic significance for us.

 

[Bornubus]

pakistan is land of Indus like Egypt is land of Nile.

those Lands are not yours. what a UP wala have to do with kashmir ? what a Dravidian have to do with kashmir ?

don't worry pundits will live with us because unlike 1990s we now know that their are our brothers and we belong to same race.

yes my Great Grandfather converted to Islam in 1930s. so yes we all kashmiris have hindu roots.

That is a paki way of thinking.

What UP wala has do with a Kashmiri Hindu is that we share our religion.This is the way it is for thousands of years.

That is the reason Kashmiri Hindus become Army commander and lead troops from south and vice versa.This is the reason why Madrasis serves in siachen.

You can give this suggestion to Han Chinese and Xi to evict from Xinjiang since they don't share religion with Uaigurs musalman.

 

[sayareakd]

yes you are right. CPEC is just start thanks to china we will also Trade with Russia and other C.Asian Republics.

As far as know Terrorists is the biggest export of Pakistan and soon these countries are going to find out.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

they are biggest problem of india as well still your country is rising.

But we don't fall like Soviet Union because of terrorists insurgencies.
We're still not properly mature and will take a decade at least to match with countries like USA, Russia or China and your terrorists will do rang me bhang.