India, China set to ink border pact to prevent face-off

[Tshering22]

What a joke!

When was the last time China ever abided by any 'pact'?

 

[Tshering22]

In Indian territory? Indian unilaterally viewpoint!
Based on Chinese unilaterially viewpoint, that is Chinese territory!
Either side won't accept the oppisit stance. So, better let's agree that we have dispute on the border and start to work from there. I believe it will be better than "my way or high way"!

What disputed?

Arunachalis are proud Indians.

Go to all the forums and all the Arunachal related sites and see there.

We don't even have a state monitoring special police like you do in Tibet (People's Armed Police).

Why not visit Arunachal and ask them directly?

Your tiny-brother (Taiwan) even claims parts of Uttarakhand and Himachal as well as my state as a part of China.

Sadly, we cannot donate land just because you whip up some weird map or the other.

Arunachal is our territory. Simple.

 

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Full text: India-China sign key border defence pact

Read more at: Full text: India-China sign key border defence pact | Firstpost

India and China have signed a key border defence pact called the Border Defence Cooperation Agreement (BDCA) to avoid face offs between the two armies along the disputed Line of Actual Control. Chinese Prime Minister Li Keqiang said that as many as nine pacts had been signed between the two countries, calling Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit a great success.

Below is the full text of the Border Defence Cooperation Agreement between India and China

The Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China (hereinafter referred to as the 'two sides'), Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang. Reuters Firmly believing that the India-China Strategic and Cooperative Partnership for Peace and Prosperity serves the fundamental interests of the people of the two countries, Reiterating that neither side shall use its military capability against the other side and that their respective military strengths shall not be used to attack the other side, Recognizing the importance of materializing the spirit of the Agreement between the Government of the Republic of India and Government of the People's Republic of China on the Maintenance of Peace and Tranquility Along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areassigned on 7th September 1993, the Agreement between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China on Confidence Building Measures in the Military Field Along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areassigned on 29th November 1996, the Protocol between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China on Modalities for the Implementation of Confidence Building Measures in the Military Field Along the Line of Actual Control in India-China Border Areas signed on 11th April 2005 and the Agreement between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China on the Establishment of a Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs signed on 17th January 2012, Have agreed as follows:


Article I
The two sides shall carry out border defence cooperation on the basis of their respective laws and relevant bilateral agreements.

Article II
The two sides shall implement border defence cooperation in the following ways:
1. Exchange information-including information about military exercises, aircrafts, demolition operations and unmarked mines-and take consequent measures conducive to the maintenance of peace, stability and tranquility along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas,

2. Jointly combat smuggling of arms, wildlife, wildlife articles and other contrabands,

3. Assist the other side in locating personnel, livestock, means of transport and aerial vehicles that may have crossed or are possibly in the process of crossing the line of actual control in the India-China border areas,

4. Work with the other side in combating natural disasters or infectious diseases that may affect or spread to the other side,

5. Any other way mutually agreed upon by the two sides.

Article III

Border deference cooperation visualized in this agreement shall be implemented through the following mechanisms:
1. Flag meetings or border personnel meetings at designated places along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas.
2. Periodic meetings between officers of the relevant Military Regions of China and Army Commands of India and between departments responsible for military operations.
3. Periodic meetings of the representatives of the Ministry of Defence of the Government of India and the Ministry of National Defence of the People's Republic of China.
4. Meetings of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs.
5. Meetings of the India-China Annual Defence Dialogue.

Article IV

In implementing border defence cooperation and to facilitate contacts and meetings between relevant organizations, the two sides may establish Border Personnel Meeting sites in all sectors, as well as telephone contacts and telecommunication links at mutually agreed locations along the line of actual control. The two sides may also consider establishing a Hotline between the military headquarters of the two countries. Specific arrangements shall be decided upon through mutual consultations between the two sides.


In order to enhance understanding and cooperation between the border defence forces of the two sides, each side may invite the other side for joint celebrations on major national or military days or festivals and organize cultural activities, non-contact sports events and small scale tactical exercises along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas. In addition, the two sides may also conduct joint military training exercises, at Army level, in each other's country on a regular basis. The theme of such joint exercises will be decided through mutual consultations.

Article VI
The two sides agree that they shall not follow or tail patrols of the other side in areas where there is no common understanding of the line of actual control in the India-China border areas.

Article VII
In case a doubtful situation arises with reference to any activity by either side in border areas where there is no common understanding of the line of actual control, either side has the right to seek a clarification from the other side. In such cases, the clarification shall be sought and replies to them shall be conveyed through any of the mechanisms established under Article III of this Agreement.

Article VIII
The two sides agree that if the border defence forces of the two sides come to a face-to-face situation in areas where there is no common understanding of the line of actual control, both sides shall exercise maximum self-restraint, refrain from any provocative actions, not use force or threaten to use force against the other side, treat each other with courtesy and prevent exchange of fire or armed conflict.

Article IX

The two sides shall implement this Agreement without prejudice to their respective positions on the alignment of the line of actual control as well as on the boundary question.

Article X

This Agreement shall come into force on the date of its signature. It may be revised, amended or terminated with the consent of the two sides. Any revision or amendment, mutually agreed by the two sides, shall form an integral part of this Agreement.

Read more at: Full text: India-China sign key border defence pact | Firstpost

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[t_co]

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This is pretty much as far as either side could bend without abandoning their core positions.

So long as both sides can adhere to the document, tensions along the border should gradually subside; if both sides can stick to it for 2-3 years, then tensions may fall to a level where a formal resolution of the disputed border can take place.

Once that happens, China and India can move to more complex topics, such as formal Chinese support for Indo-Pakistani rapprochement, Indian support and protection of Chinese shipping through the IOR, and how to best marry India's demographic boom with Chinese expertise in labor-intensive manufacturing to help the economies of both countries.

 

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This is pretty much as far as either side could bend without abandoning their core positions.

So long as both sides can adhere to the document, tensions along the border should gradually subside; if both sides can stick to it for 2-3 years, then tensions may fall to a level where a formal resolution of the disputed border can take place.

Once that happens, China and India can move to more complex topics, such as formal Chinese support for Indo-Pakistani rapprochement, Indian support and protection of Chinese shipping through the IOR, and how to best marry India's demographic boom with Chinese expertise in labor-intensive manufacturing to help the economies of both countries.

Have you gone through the previous agreements between India and China mentioned in this article.
This is in continuation of them.
The full-text of them are also present in this forum.

The full-text of all agreements right from the withdrawal from Tibet by Indian Agencies, the Panchasheel, to the 2005 agreement are present in this forum.

Go, through all of them, and kindly tell me whether the camping antics by PLA was in violation of any of them.

So, rather than the black ink ( read signature) on paper which legitimizes this document the spirit is what is important.The text and language are always written such that one can get a round about.

If two countries genuinely require peace then that can be achieved without any piece of paper and it cannot act as a restraint for mischief monger.

Apart from reiterating that India's stand that India shall not seek or tolerate multilateral interference on bilateral issues ( read Pakistan), would like to complement your wish for peace.

Thank you.

 

[CCTV]

Look at our MM bhai.
I think he must very happy about the agreement. Did you seem him happy like there before?
留园网-老辛在故宫笑得灿烂如花 -6park.com

Why his two arms are always in same direction? Like a robot....

 

[aerokan]

Am I the only one in the entire DFI community or in the entire country who thinks it as a big blunder?

 

[TrueSpirit]

Am I the only one in the entire DFI community or in the entire country who thinks it as a big blunder?

We have voted eunuchs to power. We deserve to suffer consequences. A society gets the leader it begets.

 

[t_co]

Am I the only one in the entire DFI community or in the entire country who thinks it as a big blunder?

Could you please explain?