Crisis in Tibet - Opression and Human rights violations by China

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    Tibet's burning protest

    Al Jazeera has the story link as a banner next to its site name on the home page. Interesting

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    The mood at the football stadium in Dharamsala, northern India, was sombre early this week. Sport wasn't on the agenda that evening. Hundreds of exiled Tibetans gathered to mourn. As the sun went down on the hill town, they held a candlelight vigil and offered prayers to commemorate two young men who had set themselves on fire in Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, a day earlier.

    The two were only among the latest in a continuing wave of self-immolations, a desperate form of protest against the Chinese occupation of Tibet. Three days later, 33-year-old Rikyo, a mother of three, set herself alight.


    Tibetan PM speaks out after self-immolations
    According to the International Campaign for Tibet (ICT), 38 people have immolated themselves in Tibet since 2009. In 2012 alone, Tibet has seen 25 self-immolations, 20 of which have resulted in death. This week's immolations in Lhasa could indicate that the movement is now spreading beyond Sichuan province in southwest China, a region fighting to be part of the Tibet Autonomous Region.

    "If there is anyone who can change the situation, it is the Chinese government. I'm afraid the self-immolations will continue until there is change in the ground situation," said Tashi, spokesperson of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) in Dharamsala, who goes by one name. The town houses the largest exile Tibetan community as well as the offices of the exiled government.

    Tashi adds that the plight of Tibetans is deplorable. "Tibetans inside Tibet have no basic human rights. Particularly, nuns and monks are being denied the right to practice their religion freely. People are forced to denounce their spiritual leader, His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Even carrying a photo of the Dalai Lama is prohibited," he says.

    In the wake of the protests across Tibet, the Chinese government has accused the spiritual leader Dalai Lama of inciting and encouraging self-immolations. The latest immolations have also triggered a spate of detentions.

    Spiritual angle

    A majority of self-immolators held monastic positions or were formerly enrolled at monasteries. The first recorded incident took place in February 2009 when Tapey, a monk in Kirti monastery in Ngaba County, burned himself. Since then, Kirti, the biggest monastery in Ngaba, part of Sichuan province, has been at the centre of these protests.

    Historically, Tibetan monasteries have offered spiritual and political leadership to its people. Kanyag Tsering, spokesperson of the Kirti monastery's exiled branch in Dharamsala, says his colleagues back home are continuing to play their traditional role. "Tibetans have no trust in the Chinese administration. They rely on monasteries for political and spiritual guidance. And the monasteries have been challenging the [Chinese] government on behalf of the lay people," he said.

    The 31-year-old monk says the Chinese government cracks down on religious institutions because of the support they offer to people. Tsering has been collecting information about the increased surveillance in Ngaba. "For several months in 2009, monks were not allowed to leave the monastery and civilians were not allowed to enter. Today, there are about 15 surveillance cameras within a stretch of one kilometre from the gate of the monastery to the main door," he said.

    Violent or non-violent?

    Questions have been raised on the very form of these protests. Isn't setting oneself on fire a violent action - something unacceptable in Tibetan Buddhism, which strictly advocates non-violence?


    Self-immolations in Tibet: candlelight vigil in Dharamsala
    Tsering stresses that "self-immolations cannot be clubbed together with other forms of violence, because the motives of someone who sacrifices himself for a greater good are different from someone who is intending to cause hurt. Burning oneself for the freedom of six million Tibetans cannot bring negative karma. They do it for a selfless cause. So this is not against Buddhist beliefs."

    Tsering, who has lived in India since 1990, refers to Mahatma Gandhi, who led the Indian independence movement against British colonialism through non-violence. "Gandhi also declared hunger strike unto death on many occasions. Does that make him violent? In every freedom struggle, violent or non-violent, people lose a part of themselves to attain a larger goal," he explains.

    Gene Sharp, a Boston-based scholar on non-violent action who is credited with promoting non-violent struggles around the world, doesn't agree with classifying self-immolations as violent or otherwise.

    "The situation in Tibet is very sad. People are desperate and this can be seen in the self-immolations. But I strongly discourage the form of protests. By shortening of lives, there can be no positive contribution for the future." he says.

    Sharp also criticises self-immolations for being an easy outlet for unstable members of society. "It is a trap for those who are not stable. Suicide becomes an easy way out for them," he adds.

    Every street in Dharamsala is adorned by posters of the "burning martyrs". They show blown-up, graphic images of the self-immolations. A message on one of them reads, "Sacrifice of life for Tibet". These posters have been designed and printed by the Tibetan Youth Congress (TYC), but the organisation maintains that it doesn't encourage self-immolation.

    "Being a non-violent struggle, we the Tibetan people don't have many options left. Self-immolations and hunger strike are the two last resorts we have. And we don't have anything else. So this calls for the international community to truly support the just cause of the Tibetan people," saidTsewang Rigzin, president of the TYC.

    The international community has remained tight-lipped over the issue of Tibet. In March this year, three Tibetans went on hunger strike in front of the United Nations headquarters in New York for over a month to demand action. "The UN human rights chief Navi Pillay responded by promising to assign special rapporteurs to look into the situation inside Tibet," Rigzin said. He's quick to add that progress on this issue is still awaited.

    Protests spreading

    The protests have spread to neighbouring countries as well. In November 2011, Bhutuk, a monk in Nepal, survived after self-immolation. Four months later 27-year-old Jamphel Yeshi, a Tibetan student in New Delhi, died a couple of days after setting himself on fire in the Indian capital.


    Jamphel Yeshi, above, immolated himself in New Delhi in March [Felix Gaedtke/Al Jazeera]
    Yeshi's friend Lobsang Jinpa, a former Tibetan political prisoner currently residing in Dharamsala, recollects the time they spent together. "He was always interested in politics. He would ask me what was the most difficult part of being in a Chinese prison and I would tell him about my experiences there. We would talk about the situation in Tibet for hours. He was very political," Jinpa said.

    Jinpa, who was forced into exile, had never imagined that his friend would resort to such an extreme measure. "I wasn't expecting it. On the day of the protest, he didn't go along with me. He came alone, by himself. And I just remember seeing someone on fire at the protest site. I recognised soon that it was Yeshi. There was chaos. Some people tried dousing the fire. But I couldn't move..." Jinpa recounted.

    Yeshi left behind a letter in which he expressed his wish for the complete freedom of Tibet, the return of the Dalai Lama to Free Tibet, and increased patriotism among Tibetan exiles.

    Jinpa fled to India a year ago after being released from prison. He hasn't spoken to his friends since, but he claims to know what's on their minds. "People in Tibet are growing more and more desperate as Chinese repression increases. If nothing happens now, more and more people will burn themselves to death," he says.

    Tibet's burning protest - Features - Al Jazeera English
     
  2. redragon

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    Re: Why is Tibet Important to China?

    and what makes you believe that they care? don't waste you time
     
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    Re: Why is Tibet Important to China?

    Tibet is not to be seen.

    It is being heard.

    The issue is I am sure the Chinese are doing wonders in Tibet.

    But why are the Tibetans not conforming to what the Chinese wishes them to do, when China is being economic and infrastructural improvements?
     
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    I believe they are Tiebet Indian, India start to become terrorist country!
     
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    Re: Tibet's burning protest

    We believe its the Chinese spreading state sponsored terror in Tibet.
     
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    What is the latest from Tibet?
     
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    Dude!! Are you part of the Chinese 'reeducation' program? Just curious. There are levels of foolishness. Being stupid is normal but being chinese is taking it to the extremes. Atleast try to be normal :namaste:
     
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    Re: What should China do to Tibet?

    I would ask you to stop reading the hate and bias B/S THAT YOUR CCP and PLA feeds you on daily basis. If your Government is the saintly type let her remove all the censor from Google and other independent news media who can show the facts that you are being deprived off by CCP and PLA thugs.
     
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    well ,guy,why be so warmhearted to save others?
    ,why not spend more energy looking after your domestic business , earn more money and save your families from lay off and economy crisis caused by wall street?

    and, stop preach as if you were god.
    don't take it granted that west social system is superior to other....
    your feeling of superior is based on economic lead of west world for time being.
    one beggar has no right to preach its banker.
    only times can tell which system is better and superior, west soical system or CHinese social system.

    I don't know whether the life quality of your families and your neighbours changed in the past several decades.

    but I indeed know that the life quality of my families and my neighbours has experienced revelutionaly upgrade in the past 3 decades.
    I do have full confidence that we, the new generation chinese, can bury the dominance of west world ,before we retired.
     
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    Re: What should China do to Tibet?

    You want to debate poverty in India or the issue at hand regarding you PLA'a shenanigans in Tibet. I do not feel need to debate off topic issues mentioned by you. You can start a new thread to debate west social system versus China's social system.
     
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    well, the influence on topics of global medias ultimately is decided by the fund-providers of the medias.

    And,unfortunately, the west world is still the largest fund-providers and most famous medias in the world, so west world can keep using hypercritic double standard and manipulate world medias in their interest.

    For example, you guys keep blind eyes in USA's cyber-censorship while critizing china's...

    I often surf and commented on both chinese websites and west websites, I often compare the censorship between west cyber space and chinese cyber space.
    at least, My personal experience tells me that IDF here is more free than most of CHinese forum and Comment on BBC is not more free on comments CCTV.
    have you don it?
     
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    Futhermore,
    I do believe that you have spend mroe engery look after your own bisiness,because you don't know the difference between a 30M-puluation country and and 1400M-pupulation country.

    BTW,
    the governor of the province where I live rule an pupulation of over 40M . I don't think the duty if the governor is easier than that of your PM.
     
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    Butt guy, that's no indian'way,
    Indian way is try to put Tiebet, Pakistan and other south aisa to their territory and then of course --- democracy. if stats want to be poor but have clean soul, let them be, if stats want to be terrorist, let them be, if stats want to be Maoists , let them be. if stat want to be corruption, let them be. that's why India still have best wild animal protection zone. please don't use chinese greedy idea to measure India. so I will be ok if India want all Chinese provinces be their stats.
     
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    why is tibet Important to China??

    what an interesting question.....next time i m sure there will be questions like....why is beijing Important to china....or why is shanghai important to china.........

    why??? coz every last piece of the land of prc is important to china just like indians think delhi is important to india.....dont know if this is something very hard to comprehend......
     
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    The issue of Tibet is being discussed in context of illegal occupation and forced demographic changes taking place. Your dictators can stop their own citizenry only and not rest of the world.
     
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    Re: What should China do to Tibet?

    When you can learn to differentiate the censorship for security reason and political reason than only you should open the debate on new topic. We are talking about Tibet and not the censorship issues China versus West. If you have nothing to contribute just read and absorb the point of views of other forum members it should not be too difficult to follow.
     
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    Let me see if I can draw the parallel between your 1400 million population and population of whole of West Europe, USA and India which have a free media and your is totally paranoid PLA and CCP regime trying to hang onto a territory whose native people do not want to be part of Hans regime who is engaged in suppression of all kinds of human rights which we are able to enjoy in the parts of the world I have mentioned to draw a comparison.

    The problem with individuals like you is that "Truth and Reality" is not palatable to your thugs who want to hang on to power at all cost.
     
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    You can debate to the earth turns to dust. It still dont change the ground reality that Tibet is a part of China. And no country question that except some die hard pundits. I assume some people have alot free time on their hands. May I suggest community services?:scared1:
     
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    BTW,who is native people?

    American Indians have lived in American for thousands of year, so they are native.

    but American Whites have lived in America for almost 500 years, are American whites native?

    Tibetan have lived in Tibet for 1000+ years, they are native.
    But Han-Chinese ,Mongolians and Huis also have lived in "great Tibet" so called for hunderds of years at least too, are they native?
     

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