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it is very cool and futuristic!
same like the pakistan railways has been swept out of market with the import of chinese locomotives.right?????:emot15:more
We chinese have mastered global best train tech and will soon sweep EU and Japanese out of train market.
Yes, actually, that is one of the major questions draws a lot discussions on Chinese forum, a lot people believe it has big impact on short range tour.^^ Congrats. I must say they look spectacularly hi-tech and comfortable. Kudos to your transport department for this achievement. But one question: won't having high speed railways cause a problem for the domestic airline industry since low-fare carriers are around the same ticket price as this?
high speed railways have already immensely impact on those airline shorter than 1000 KM.^^ Congrats. I must say they look spectacularly hi-tech and comfortable. Kudos to your transport department for this achievement. But one question: won't having high speed railways cause a problem for the domestic airline industry since low-fare carriers are around the same ticket price as this?
aha, when I posted the picture of Chinese expressways,many Indian guys and west medias also questioned soooo.I saw a few photos.
Where are the people?
you will come to know futuristic things about these railways in immediate future like 10 days traffic jams.....:happy_2:What is futuristic in this?
In Chinese train stations, people without ticket are not allowed in the platform. And passengers with tickets are only allowed to enter the platform 5-15 minutes(20-30 minute if it is not HSR) before the train departs.I saw a few photos.
Where are the people?
What is the difference in comfort between the Business class and the common class?I'm a regular passenger on high speed train shuttling from my hometown (a capital) to a SEZ.
270km for 90-110 mins @ RMB85 (economy class) and 105 for so-called business class , depending on stop-off. one departure every half an hour. High utilization!
Futuristic? It's just part of daiy life nowadays. Tangible for me. I feel it every week almost
I sincerely hope the quality of the trains are better than regular chinese stuff. The most complex chinese equipment I'm familiar with are Huawei and ZTE telecom switches. They are basically cheap workstations in a 'telecom chasis' with horribly buggy code and very basic features. Basically it can connect calls and allow SMS to be send. Very little in terms of diagnostic support, or even full standards compliance.more
We chinese have mastered global best train tech and will soon sweep EU and Japanese out of train market.
there much more "made in China' in India than you thnk.I sincerely hope the quality of the trains are better than regular chinese stuff. The most complex chinese equipment I'm familiar with are Huawei and ZTE telecom switches. They are basically cheap workstations in a 'telecom chasis' with horribly buggy code and very basic features. Basically it can connect calls and allow SMS to be send. Very little in terms of diagnostic support, or even full standards compliance.
However, they are also incredibly cheap compared to the european equipment (which costs way too much to pay for their lazy indulgent lifestyles) and chinese provide one engineer to stand by for pretty much every switch they sell. They also respond to software change/fix requests from big vendors faster than europeans with all their processes and general disdain for 3rd world markets.
The end result is chinese technology is just enough to roll out a network, with some glitches, but still extremely cost effective. As the users get more demanding, the manufacturers also respond slowly growing up the value chain. IMO quite an interesting strategy.
However, a high speed train may not be an ideal product to apply the start cheap and low quality philosophy.
Another example is king long buses some municipal corporations in india ordered. They were swayed by the low costs compared to Volvos and they looked just as good. Within a year, these king longs were discarded as they kept breaking down all the time. New orders were given to Volvos and Tatas.
And so on for Chinese Cars etc etc.
If these chinese trains run in another country (where one can access maintenance logs transparently) and turn out to be as good in performance as they look, it would be a major step forward for China, graduating from cheap trinkets and knock-offs to making high-quality high-tech machines. Assuming these trains and Chinese built, and not just the body work is chinese are all other parts came from european companies in China.
Let's wait and see.