MMRCA 2.0: News & Discussions

[WolfPack86]

BIG: @LockheedMartin announces all future F-16 wings will be built in India by @TataCompanies Advanced Systems Ltd.

 

[WolfPack86]

Lockheed Martin announces agreement to produce F-16 wings in India in partnership with Tata Advanced Systems Limited. Will be the provider of wings for all future customers of the fighter jet.

 

[WolfPack86]

Shouldn't we be good neighbours and offer the Pakistani Air Force some new wings ?

 

[Sancho]

BIG: @LockheedMartin announces all future F-16 wings will be built in India by @TataCompanies Advanced Systems Ltd.

So after LM proposes to transfer a production line that is closing in the US, now another production line is getting transfered, because more and more F16s are getting phased out.

 

[Immanuel]

Indeed, with CISMOA passed, we might end up with local lines for both the F-18SH & F-16 Block 70

 

[WolfPack86]

Indeed, with CISMOA passed, we might end up with local lines for both the F-18SH & F-16 Block 70

But i perfer F-18 advanced super hornet instead of F-16 block 70.

 

[Sancho]

The Block 3 is on offer, the advanced SH, is just an option pack that we could fund additionally, but yes the Block 3 is preferable over the Block 70, just as any European fighter remains the best choice.

 

[WolfPack86]

Only solution to solve IAF fighter jets short fall it's to order more Tejas MK 1A and Tejas MK 2.

 

[WolfPack86]

And also order more SU- 30 MKI fighter jets.

 

[WolfPack86]

Majority of Fighter Jets in the IAF by 2032 will be Made in India

With the number of the Indian Air Force’s fighter squadrons expected to decrease quickly from the present 31 as the current fleet ages, there has been a decisive endeavor to accelerate the recapitalization of the fighter fleet. The majority of the new fighters are to bear the “Make in India” label. By 2032, the Indian Air Force plans to have at least 18 squadrons of Indian-made fighters, said the Deputy Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal R. Nambiar, at a conference held in Delhi this month.

Nambiar said that the squadrons of the indigenously built fleet would include the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Mk1, Mk1A, and Mk2 that, in 10 years, “would be the mainstay of our inventory.” LCA variants would replace the MiG-29s, Jaguars, and Mirage 2000s. He said of the LCA: “It is a wonderful aircraft but deliveries are too slow.”

With the India-Russia fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project showing little signs of moving ahead, it is the twin-engine, stealthy Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program that the Indian Air Force is now looking at “as a replacement for the Sukhoi Su-30s, which will start showing their age by then,” noted Nambier. He said that the air force “has put its money where its mouth is” and has already released a facility in Coimbatore in South India to the Defence Research Development Organisation to start work on two AMCA technology demonstrators. In the meantime, the Minister of Defense, Nirmala Sitharaman, confirmed to Parliament the feasibility study for the development of AMCA had already been completed.

While optimistic about the project, Ashis Kumar Ghosh, the AMCA project director, said that there have been numerous challenges. “AMCA is in the fifth-gen, 25-ton weight category, to be operated [partially] stealthy and with internal weaponry. The most important [challenge] is developing the technology indigenously while retaining common design drivers, yet being different. We would like to fly with a readily available engine, and the swing role has to be performed, as asked for by the air force.” He added that an increase in survivability was planned with “stealth, electronic warfare, and performance.”

Realization of the plan is to first fly two technology demonstrators of a fifth-generation aircraft. “Once the airframe is ready and flown, we will start to add others in a phased manner. This helps in de-risking the program as we can start work on different aspects simultaneously.” He added that a quality, skilled manufacturing ecosystem was essential for the AMCA to be built. Vendors, he said, would be dealing with a “high geometric complexity. Too many requirements are required for stealth. If you cannot maintain proper tolerances, it becomes a challenge.”

As the first of 36 Rafales are delivered from September next year until 2022, an official indicated that Dassault Aviation could likely be given an additional order in later years, as they would most likely be cheaper. With two squadrons established at different bases in India, and able to absorb additional aircraft, there would be no further need to equip additional bases with the necessary tooling and equipment.

Regarding the Request for Information released for 114 multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA), with a Request for Proposal that will be issued late next year at the earliest and implemented after three to four years, there is cynicism among many OEMs who feel that this, too, might experience the fate of the earlier MRCA that was canceled by the previous government. Additionally, 85 percent of the MRCA project has to be “Made in India” by a Strategic Partner (SP)/Indian Production Agency. While it has a straightforward intent, the perplexing SP model is slow with decision-making and the final draft has yet to be implemented, leaving future vendors in a state of uncertainty.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TejasMRCA/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[WolfPack86]

Airforce looking to buy 200+ ( 12 squadrons) LCA Tejas Mark-2 -IAF Chief
correction: Tejas Mk2 is technically an MCA (Medium Combat Aircraft)
+Rafale could be the winner of MMRCA 2.0 (114 aircraft), hinted IAF Chief
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[WolfPack86]

Lockheed Martin has received a massive $1.12 billion contract from the U.S. government to produce 16 advanced F-16 Block 70 Fighting Falcons for Bahrain. It will be equipped with Northrop Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array radar.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamINDRA/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[WolfPack86]

7-PACK: Indian MoD receives 7 responses to its global information request to support a 110 @MakeInIndia fighter aircraft deal, defence minister @NSitharaman confirms. Here’s the list:

 

[WolfPack86]

I hope SU-35 fighter aircraft win this contest it is cheaper it has new engines and radar as well as more ferry range.

 

[Sancho]

If what I have heard in the news about Eurofighter bid being revised during MMRCA 1.0, then we should think about getting Typhoons for IAF and 36 Rafale can do the job of strategic weapons delivery.

We should had thought about Typhoon between 2013 and 2015 (UPA and NDA governments), instead of keep wasting time with Dasaault. For MMRCA 2.0 however, things have changed and too much is focused on low costs and politics, which is the opposite of MMRCA 1.0

 

[Sancho]

I hope SU-35 fighter aircraft win this contest it is cheaper it has new engines and radar as well as more ferry range.

1. Su 35 => heavy class => therefore will be rejected by IAF

2. Su 30 MKI based on original Su 35/Su 27M

3. Upgraded MKI as good, if not superior to Su 35

 

[Sancho]

With Denel not blacklisted anymore, IAF should consider this missile as an R73 replacement on the Russian fighters and a way to block more techs going towards PAK.

 

[Prashant12]

1. Su 35 => heavy class => therefore will be rejected by IAF

2. Su 30 MKI based on original Su 35/Su 27M

3. Upgraded MKI as good, if not superior to Su 35

1. Gripen E & EF will be rejected because of Finmeccanica components.
2. Mig 35 will be rejected due to lack interest of IAF.
3. F16 has no future. So it will be rejected.
4. Rafale will be rejected unless there is significant price cut.
5. F18 - ToT from america will be big issue.

 

[darshan978]

1. Gripen E & EF will be rejected because of Finmeccanica components.
2. Mig 35 will be rejected due to lack interest of IAF.
3. F16 has no future. So it will be rejected.
4. Rafale will be rejected unless there is significant price cut.
5. F18 - ToT from america will be big issue.

at last tejas mk1a will be procured in mass quantity !! let them burn in hell

 

[WolfPack86]

I want atleast 200 Tejas mk 1a ordered by Indian Air Force.