Arjun vs T90 MBT

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DRDO is a R&D organization, Who design as per GSQR prepared by Army itself under Army`s supervision ..

DRDO does not work on initiative, T-90 design has issues which DRDO being asked to rectified though this is being portrait as upgrade rather rectifications ..

TANK-Ex was rejected as Russian didn't allowed modification to existing T-72M1 chassis, The few prototypes are now used as test beds for new technologies and nothing else ..
 

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DRDO is a R&D organization, Who design as per GSQR prepared by Army itself under Army`s supervision ..

DRDO does not work on initiative, T-90 design has issues which DRDO being asked to rectified though this is being portrait as upgrade rather rectifications ..

TANK-Ex was rejected as Russian didn't allowed modification to existing T-72M1 chassis, The few prototypes are now used as test beds for new technologies and nothing else ..
Such as? Also what kind of upgrades are we talking about here for the T90?
 

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NEW DELHI The Indian Army will upgrade more than 600 Russian-built T-90 tanks by adding new features and replacing their thermal imaging sights, navigation systems and fire control systems at a cost of more than $250 million.which will be developed by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). The tanks' existing armor protection systems, navigation gear, thermal imaging sights and fire control systems will be replaced.
DRDO had earlier attempted to mount air conditioning systems on the tanks, but were stopped by Russia, citing intellectual property rights," said Arun Sehgal, a retired Army brigadier general and defense analyst.

The Russians were then asked to fit the air conditioning systems in the T-90 tanks, but the attempt was unsuccessful," Sehgal said. The intellectual property rights issue has since been resolved between India and Russia
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Another Army official said,The thermal imaging system of the T-90 tanks were faulty from the initial stage

Rahul Bhonsle, another retired Indian Army brigadier general and defense analyst, said, A major part of the proposed upgrade will include providing an enhanced fire control potential because in the comparative trials between the Arjun and T-90 tanks last year, the Arjun had demonstrated a superior sighting system than the Russian tank.
The indigenous production of about 1,000 additional T-90s has been contracted, but production has not yet begun.

"The Russians have not provided full-scale [intellectual property rights] and are withholding some critical designs; thus, full-scale indigenization has been held up in Avadi, Bhonsle said.

An official of the Ordnance Factory Board, which administers the Avadi factory, said the Russians have supplied only 40 percent of the technology and nearly none since 2008. â–
SOURCE : Indian Army To Upgrade T-90 Tanks With Domestic Help ( , Mar 11, 2014 )

Such as? Also what kind of upgrades are we talking about here for the T90?
 

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You can not beat a nation who is building tanks and heavy armored machines for ages India has just started figuring out the jigsaw puzzle. Russian electronics sucks that's why even they employed french electronics for there own tanks .
 

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The argument does not hold water as one nation is making tanks for its own requirement will also suits the other`s requirement and terrain as well, This was vividly seen during joint trails ..

In that context Indian T-90 is beaten by Arjun mk1 during joint trails on Indian terrain and this is according to GOI sources ..



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Besides T-90 made in India are hardly Russian given their guns,stabilizers and Armour are from Arjun project, Due to Kanchan protection the weight is higher than that those of Russian T-90 by no less than 1.5-2.0 tons or could be more as the ground pressure measurements are different from Russian T-90 when compare to Indian made T-90 with Indian Gun and sub system so does Kanchan Armour inserts ..



In figure Indian T-90 bhishma ground pressure is 0.94 kg/sq.cm where as Russian T-90 has 0.91 kg/sq.cm..
 

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NOT HAPPY WITH INDIA BEING LABELED ONE OF THE LARGEST IMPORTERS OF DEFENSE EQUIPMENT IN WORLD: ARUN JAITLEY
SATURDAY, MARCH 18, 2017 BYINDIANDEFENSE NEWS

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Union minister Arun Jaitley, who was appointed the Defence minister just days ago after Manohar Parrikar stepped down to become the chief minister of Goa, met Russia’s Minister of Trade and Industry Denis Manturov at Manekshaw Centre on Friday. Manturov is on a two-day visit to India to focus on issues related to the $1-billion Indo-Russian deals including Kamov-226 helicopters, the progress of Project 1135-6 frigates for the Indian Navy and T-90 tanks for the Indian Army, among others. Soon after the meeting, Arun Jaitley said, “India is one of the largest importers of defense equipment in the world, and this definitely is not a label we are happy with.” Addressing a conference on India-Russia Military and Industrial cooperation, Jaitley called for deeper bilateral engagement in defense production. He said that Russia should at least facilitate manufacturing of parts and subsystems, which are needed in large numbers and where the requirement is recurring in nature.
According to FE Bureau, “Besides meeting with the new defense minister Arun Jaitley, three sets of meetings have been planned for the visiting minister. He will meet officials of Indian Army, Navy and the Air Force. The interaction between the Russian side and the Indian armed forces, as well as the industry, is to see how all can work together as a support system.”
On the day, two agreements were signed at the conference between India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation and United Engine Corporation for the long-term supply of spares and technical assistance for Sukhoi Su-30MKI aircraft for five years.
Saying that these moves are part of the larger defense and economic agenda chalked out by Prime Minister Narendra Modi for India, FM Jaitley said, “PM, after forming the government, launched the Make in India initiative; defense production is identified as one of the key areas under this.”
Earlier today, Defence Minister Jaitley while intervening in the Lok Sabha during a debate had said that the Indian armed forces were fully prepared to meet any challenge and asked the Opposition to be very careful about conveying the impression that they were not due to lack of procurement.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/03/not-happy-with-india-being-labeled-one.html

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