The Greatest Kings in Indian History

[civfanatic]

Here you go

Kingdom of Laos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

P.S. Not that difficult using search by image option in Google

Good job

The flag has its origins in the Kingdom of Lan Xang (1353-1707), which is a typical example of an Indianised kingdom. Notice the similarities between the Lao royal emblem and the Lion Capital of Asoka.


Royal Emblem of Laos

Lion Capital of Asoka

 

[pmaitra]

Not Russian, because Russians at that time were in Eastern Europe. Russia is a HUGE country with some parts that have history that really doesn't belong to Russia or the Russians.

Firstly, do not jump into the middle of the thread. Read previous posts.

Secondly, a Russian can be Slavic, Tatar, Cossak, Persian, Turkic, Mongol and other native tribes.

Thirdly, I clearly stated they were Buryat Mongols, and as of today, Buryat Mongols are indeed Russian. The term Russian does not imply a single race but the term Slavic does.

His ancestor Babur was from Samarkhand, yes, but he is descended from the Buryat Mongols; Mongols, but from a place that is currently in Russia.

In any case, Akbar was very much an Indian. If he is not, then, going by the school of thought that some Rajputs were migrants, are also not Indian.

When people migrate, they are assimilated, but they also bring in culture that gets assimilated into the people of their new homeland.

Anyways, this is debatable, and basically a futile one. Perhaps this is merely a coincidence, but there is an uncanny similarity of faith among all the persons listed.

P.S.: I find it rather weird that we do not hesitate to tout the Taj Mahal to get foreign tourists to visit India, yet, we are debating whether a Mughal Emperor, that too one who was born here, is considered non-Indian by some.

 

[pmaitra]

Good job

The flag has its origins in the Kingdom of Lan Xang (1353-1707), which is a typical example of an Indianised kingdom. Notice the similarities between the Lao royal emblem and the Lion Capital of Asoka.


Royal Emblem of Laos

Lion Capital of Asoka

And this one is in Thailand.

 

[civfanatic]

And this one is in Thailand.

Proof that Asoka is the greatest Indian king in history.

No other Indian monarch had such far-reaching and long-lasting influence.

 

[A chauhan]

No not according to me. It is according to you since you've jumped on it to say who is Indian and who is outsider.

Adivasis were first people to arrive in India...that is not a claim but a fact proven by dna. While i bet you would have roots in central asia if tomorrow your dna was tested.

You are Indian according to my judgement but you are not Indian according to your own scale. Even in vedas it is written that aryans drank a certain type of drink soma and it didn't grow in heartland of India. So what does that mean ?

Have you tested it genetically that he has roots in central Asia ? if not then no surprise you and your claims always appear like this

When it has been genetically proved that there were two tribes North Indian Tribe and South Indian Tribe which ultimately developed into Hindu culture then why to discuss it ! and you again linked that African picture lol!!

This thread asks simply one question - Who is the greatest Indian King? And you guys went back to 50,000 years Will you select greatest Indian King from African soil ?

And there lies the success of Hindu culture that in order to argue against Hindus you have to go back to 50,000 years and gain only guessings with "could" and "might" ; still no points made

Chandragupta created united Bharat which was toughest job of that time, while Asoka inherited Kingdom from his parents though he expanded it, it is highly due to Chandragupta that we are able to see the present form of Bharat. So imo Chandragupta Maurya is the greatest Indian King as his efforts have changed the future of whole sub-continent/continent.

 

[pankaj nema]

If Islamic kings have to be considered great then there has to SOME basis

On what basis or rather what METRIC should Hindus consider Akbar and Tipu Sultan
as even good in the first place

For inspiration Chandra Gupta Maurya , Ashoka , Rana Pratap , Shivaji and Ranjit Singh are more than ENOUGH inspiration for Hindus

If you ask the average Hindu ONLY , Taj mahal is the ONLY one good thing from Islamic rule

Therefore in the collecive consciousness of Hindus Akbar and Tipu Sultan are evil

 

[Adux]

I have yet to see someone answer adux's question regarding treatment of lower cast by hindu kings.

They cannot, they will see how utterly cruel the Indian society was on its own people. The lower caste who constituted the majority of the populace of India were treated as fodder by the higher caste rulers, and when they foreign invaders came, these same higher caste knew to consolidate their wealth and protection, it is better for the them to join with them foreign invaders and further stomp down on the majority populace. Why go back 1000 years? Why go back 700 years? Wait 3000 years is awesome for some ( Hindu's), and going back 700 years aint fine, because that's when the muslims came. Dont you see the similiarities between Israeli's and Muslims over here, Muslims only want to go back 50 years, while Jews want to go 1000 years. Who would have thunk that Muslims and Hindu's are now thinking alike? LOL.

All through out, it has become evident that none of the Hindu King's had a far reaching social reforming impact on the Indian populace, for whom Islamic or Hindu King's were the same shyt different day. This is the main reason Indians couldnt unite against Foreign aggression. Hinduism is the worst thing to happen to the Indian landmass and its populace. Hinduism destroyed everything created by Mauryan's. None of them had the vision of Mauryan Empire, mind you for them it wasnt just about the landmass, it was about the people of this landmass. Something Hindu and Islamic Kings cannot claim.

 

[Yusuf]

If Islamic kings have to be considered great then there has to SOME basis

On what basis or rather what METRIC should Hindus consider Akbar and Tipu Sultan
as even good in the first place

For inspiration Chandra Gupta Maurya , Ashoka , Rana Pratap , Shivaji and Ranjit Singh are more than ENOUGH inspiration for Hindus

If you ask the average Hindu ONLY , Taj mahal is the ONLY one good thing from Islamic rule

Therefore in the collecive consciousness of Hindus Akbar and Tipu Sultan are evil

There are many evils in modern India. Just because they are evil, you cannot say they are not Indians. Just because you dont like someone, his nationality does not change. Rather than get emotional about someone because of who they were, what they did, think objectively. Akbar and Tipu were born in the sub continent. They are very much part of this land not matter how much you try to say, try to deny (like how the pakis try to deny a lot of things to suit themselves). Akbars father can be anyone or his grand dad or his other ancestors.

 

[pankaj nema]

The SIMPLE thing is that Hindus CANNOT AND Will not ,RELATE to Akbar and Tipu sultan simply because they are evil

Historical figures are talked about AND remembered FOR SOME REASON

Hindus Remember, talk about , Discuss about Shivaji and Rana pratap's Bravery
and Chandragupta Maurya's and Ashoka's Empires ,Prithviraj Chauhan 's Mistakes

And Akbar 's and Tipu Sultan's names evoke only anger

 

[pmaitra]

The SIMPLE thing is that Hindus CANNOT

Perhaps you represent some Hindus, so you are not speaking on behalf of all Hindus; definitely not me.

AND Will not ,RELATE to Akbar and Tipu sultan simply because they are evil

So what makes one evil? How is evil defined?

Historical figures are talked about AND remembered FOR SOME REASON

Hindus Remember, talk about , Discuss about Shivaji and Rana pratap's Bravery
and Chandragupta Maurya's and Ashoka's Empires ,Prithviraj Chauhan 's Mistakes

And Akbar 's and Tipu Sultan's names evoke only anger

Akbar and Tipu Sultan's names evoked as much anger in the minds of their victims' families as did the name of Ashoka in the minds of his victims' families in Kalinga.

Again, may I ask you to speak for yourself?

 

[pankaj nema]

In any NORMAL family , CRIMINALS are forgotten and discarded because they have HURT the entire Family

A Nation is a HUGE Family

So Evil People DOWN the ages Whether Hindus like the traitor JAICHAND are chastisised
in fact the word Jaichand means traitor

Even idiots like Prithviraj Chauhan are talked about with Contempt for their foolish Mistakes

Hence Hindus SHOULD not be EXPECTED To embrace Evil Islamic rulers

Hindus will always hate them NO MATTER HOW MUCH White washing is done BY THEIR FANS

 

[pmaitra]

In any NORMAL family , CRIMINALS are forgotten and discarded because they have HURT the entire Family

A Nation is a HUGE Family

So Evil People DOWN the ages Whether Hindus like the traitor JAICHAND are chastisised
in fact the word Jaichand means traitor

Even idiots like Prithviraj Chauhan are talked about with Contempt for their foolish Mistakes

Hence Hindus SHOULD not be EXPECTED To embrace Evil Islamic rulers

Hindus will always hate them NO MATTER HOW MUCH White washing is done BY THEIR FANS

Try not using so many capitalised words. You don't have to yell. There is a boldface formatting available.

Secondly, cool down a bit.

Thirdly, in which language does Jaichand mean traitor? I could break it down like this Jaichand = Jai + Chand(ra).

Fourthly, try to inculcate objectivity in your analyses. Excessive consumption of RSS literature can lead one to rationalise like Zaid Hamid. I am sorry, but that is what your posts are looking like.

 

[Adux]

The SIMPLE thing is that Hindus CANNOT AND Will not ,RELATE to Akbar and Tipu sultan simply because they are evil

Historical figures are talked about AND remembered FOR SOME REASON

Hindus Remember, talk about , Discuss about Shivaji and Rana pratap's Bravery
and Chandragupta Maurya's and Ashoka's Empires ,Prithviraj Chauhan 's Mistakes

And Akbar 's and Tipu Sultan's names evoke only anger

Well, This Hindu and his people, who are the majority of the people in this country, consider Hindu rulers to be quite evil, as much as the Islamic one's. You cannot stand them, because you are a bigot.The only reason Akbar and Tipu evoke anger is because you were at the recieving end of it, I wonder how much anger the lower caste of this country will have against the Higher caste, for exactly the same reason's as you mentioned. Shivaji, Rana Pratap etc dont even have the right to stand on the same platform as Mauryan's or other Buddhist King's. Hinduism is the worst thing that happened to India and Indians.

 

[Yusuf]

Try not using so many capitalised words. You don't have to yell. There is a boldface formatting available.

Secondly, cool down a bit.

Thirdly, in which language does Jaichand mean traitor? I could break it down like this Jaichand = Jai + Chand(ra).

Fourthly, try to inculcate objectivity in your analyses. Excessive consumption of RSS literature can lead one to rationalise like Zaid Hamid. I am sorry, but that is what your posts are looking like.

Quite a few posts back, i made the post saying the only one being missed on this thread was Zaid Hamid to give the "other" view in the madness that is being shown here.

 

[S.A.T.A]

Brilliant, so you actually agree. It does have a use of History, especially for propaganda purposes, the sheer number of Hindu's over here finding themselves in bad position and feeling uncomfortable about it is crazy, Hindu's have been fed with this notion that they were this sweet nice people who have never done anything wrong and has been always at receiving end of evil Islamist, perfect victim syndrome. But alas, Hindu's have been the worst to other Hindu's, Buddhist and Adivasi's...All of a sudden they see no difference between their Islamist invaders and ancestors.

If you take religion out of it, just see it as the King/Emperor how was done the most for the land mass of India, equality to all the people of that landmass and had a superior vision for the future. I cannot see that in any Hindu Kings nor Islamic Kings. I only see that with modern India and Buddhist India.

All history is a construct and they are constructed to serve a very distinguishing purpose,which is to tell the generations that follow the story of the society and to instruct them why they are what they are, and why it is important to stay the way they are.This is the fundamental objective why a society chronicles its tale.A story can have many contending perception and dimensions,you cannot narrate them all,nor will all of them serve the purpose of a community.So whose story will we tell.We the Hindus have our history and others might have theirs,they all have a self serving purpose.


Which i why India will always tells the story of Hindus and when i mean Hindus it means all Hindus irrespective of his caste affiliations.We cannot tell everybody's tale and so we tells ours.Hence Indian history is is story of How the Hindu society interacted with its surrounding social environment,how it faced odds imposed by foreign intruders and schisms inflicted from within and more importantly its seeks to tell how we emerged successfully.It is the story of survival and success against odds that sustain any society.

P.S:By all accounts Chandra Gupta Mauriya founded Indian first historical empire,and perhaps one of the most expansive until the fag end of the last millennium.If we go according to Jain,Hindu and even Greek accounts(Arrian cites Megasthenes where he refers to Mauriya visiting the woods near his palace to conduct sacrifices)Mauriya was Hindu and all his conquest was conducted as an adherent to the Brahminical religion(Chanakya would not have installed him on the throne if it were otherwise)soon after becoming a Jain he abdicated the throne and departed to South India.The next Mauryan expansion took place under his son Bindusara,who also we have to believe,because we have no evidence to the contrary,was an adherent of the Brahminical religion.Asoka who succeeded him waged his last war in eighth year of his reign and after which he became the champion of Buddhism and we are told never waged another war.So practically the extensive Mauryan empire came under the endeavor of emperors when they were still Hindus.It was the Hindu political and social intellect that first established the rule of governance,protection and justice that has sustained the Indian civilization.

 

[pankaj nema]

Try Celebrating the goodness of Akbar and Tipu Sultan in Delhi and Karnataka ; in a Public forum
and see the fun

It is ONLY in this forum that you can celebrate Akbar 's and Tipu Sultan's Greatness

But I KNOW what the 1 billion Hindus of this country think and feel

A handful of pseudo secularists cannot undo the sins of evil Islamic rulers even if they write a million posts
about the So called goodness of Akbar and Tipu sultan

 

[johnee]

Who is Waliullah?
Wiki says:

Shah Waliullah Muhaddith Dehlvi (February 21, 1703 – August 20, 1762) was an Islamic scholar and reformer.He was born during the reign of Aurangzeb Alamgir. He worked for the revival of Muslim rule and intellectual learning in South Asia, during a time of waning Muslim power. He despised the divisions and deviations within Islam and its practice in India and hoped to "purify" the religion and unify all Indian Muslims under the "banner of truth". He is also thought to have anticipated a number of progressive, social, economic, and political ideas of the modern era such as social reform, equal rights, labour protection, welfare entitlement of all to food, clothing, housing, etc.

Shah Waliullah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is considered one of the topmost theologians of Islam in India.

Sirhindi ranks with Shah Waliullah as one of the topmost sufis and theologians of Islam. Referring to his role, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad has written in his Tazkirah that "but for these letters Muslim nobles would not have stood by Islam and but for the efforts of Shaikh Ahmad, Akbar's heterodoxy would have superseded Islam in India."9 Later on, when K.A. Nizami published a collection of Shah Walilullah's letters addressed to various Muslim notables including Ahmad Shah Abdali, he dedicated it to Maulana Azad. The Maulana wrote back, "I am extremely happy that you have earned the merit of publishing these letters. I pray from the core of my heart that Allah may bless you with the felicity of publishing many books of a similar kind."10 That should give us a measure not only of 'Muslim Revivalism' but also of many Maulanas who masqueraded as ardent nationalists in order to fight the battle for Islam from within the Indian National Congress.

Below are Waliullah's letters to other Islamic rulers(including those born out of India) inviting them to invade India and Hindus. These letters clearly show that these people did not consider Mughals as 'Indians'. Remember, that Waliullah was active during Aurangzeb times, so when he talks of Mughals, he includes rulers like Akbar.

I am reproducing some portions from those letters of Waliullah in which he is making frantic appeals to the swordsmen of Islam for retrieving the situation. It is significant that whole passages of the Persian originals have been dropped from the Urdu translations. Those passages contain the obscene swear-words of which every language of Islam is brimful.


1. Letter to Ahmad Shah Abdali, Ruler of Afghanistan

The presence of the kings of Islam is a great blessing from Allah"¦ You should know that the country of Hindustan is a large land. In olden days, the kings of Islam had struggled hard and for long in order to conquer this foreign country. They could do it only in several turns"¦18

Every (Muslim) king got mosques erected in his territory, and created madrasas. Muslims of Arabia and Ajam (non-Arab Muslim lands) migrated from their own lands and arrived in these territories. They became agents for the publicity and spread of Islam here. Uptil now their descendants are firm in the ways of Islam"¦19

Among the non-Muslim communities, one is that of the Marhatah (Maratha). They have a chief. For some time past, this community has been raising its head, and has become influential all over Hindustan"¦20

"¦It is easy to defeat the Marhatah community, provided the ghãzîs of Islam gird up their loins and show courage"¦21

In the countryside between Delhi and Agra, the Jat community used to till the land. In the reign of Shahjahan, this community had been ordered not to ride on horses, or keep muskets with them, or build fortresses for themselves. The kings that came later became careless, and this community has used the opportunity for building many forts, and collecting muskets"¦22

In the reign of Muhammad Shah, the impudence of this community crossed all limits. And Surajmal, the cousin of Churaman, became its leader. He took to rebellion. Therefore, the city of Bayana which was an ancient seat of Islam, and where the Ulama and the Sufis had lived for seven hundred years, has been occupied by force and terror, and Muslims have been turned out of it with humiliation and hurt"¦23

"¦Whatever influence and prestige is left with the kingship at present, is wielded by the Hindus. For no one except them is there in the ranks of managers and officials. Their houses are full of wealth of all varieties. Muslims live in a state of utter poverty and deprivation. The story is long and cannot be summarised. What I mean to say is that the country of Hindustan has passed under the power of non-Muslims. In this age, except your majesty, there is no other king who is powerful and great, who can defeat the enemies, and who is farsighted and experienced in war. It is your majesty's bounden duty (farz-i-ain) to invade Hindustan, to destroy the power of the Marhatahs, and to free the down-and-out Muslims from the clutches of non-Muslims. Allah forbid, if the power of the infidels remains in its present position, Muslims will renounce Islam and not even a brief period will pass before Muslims become such a community as will no more know how to distinguish between Islam and non-Islam. This will be a great tragedy. Due to the grace of Allah, no one except your majesty has the capacity for preventing this tragedy from taking place.

We who are the servants of Allah and who recognise the Prophet as our saviour, appeal to you in the name of Allah that you should turn your holy attention to this direction and face the enemies, so that a great merit is added to the roll of your deeds in the house of Allah, and your name is included in the list of mujãhidîn fi Sabîlallah (warriors in the service of Allah). May you acquire plunder beyond measure, and may the Muslims be freed from the stranglehold of the infidels. I seek refuge in Allah when I say that you should not act like Nadir Shah who oppressed and suppressed the Muslims, and went away leaving the Marhatahs and the Jats whole and prosperous.

The enemies have become more powerful after Nadir Shah, the army of Islam has disintegrated, and the empire of Delhi has become childrens' play. Allah forbid, if the infidels continue as at present, and Muslims get (further) weakened, the very name of Islam will get wiped out.24

"¦When your fearsome army reaches a place where Muslims and non-Muslims live together, your administrators must take particular care. They must be instructed that those weak Muslims who live in the countryside should be taken to towns and cities. Next, some such administrators should be appointed in towns and cities as would see to it that the properties of Muslims are not plundered, and the honour of no Muslim is compromised.25


2. To Najibuddaulah, the Ruhela Ally of Abdali in India

Your solemn letter has reached (me)"¦

At the 'hidden level' (occult word), the downfall of the Marhatahs and the Jats has been decided. Now, therefore, it is only a matter of time. As soon as the servants of Allah gird up their loins and come out with courage, the magic fortress of falsehood will be shattered"¦26


3. To Najibuddaulah

"¦There are three groups in Hindustan which are known for the qualities of fanaticism and zeal. So long as these three are not exterminated, no king can feel secure, nor any noble. The people (read Muslims) also will not be able to live in peace.

Religious as well as worldly interests dictate that soon after winning the war with the Marhatahs, you should turn towards the forts of the Jats, and conquer them with the blessings from the hidden (occult) world. Next is the turn of the Sikhs. This group should also be defeated, while waiting for grace from Allah.

"¦I appeal to you in the name of Allah and his Prophet that you should not cast your eye on the property of any Muslim. If you take care in this regard, there is hope that the doors of victory will be opened to you one after another. But if this caution is ignored, I fear that the wails of the oppressed may become obstacles in the way towards your goal.27


4. To Najibuddaulah

These words are being written in reply to the verbal message sent by you. I have been asked (by you) to tell (you) about suppression of the rebellion of Jats in the environs of Delhi.

The fact is that this recluse (meaning himself) has witnessed in the occult world the downfall of the Jats in the same way as that of the Marhatahs. I have also seen it in a dream that Muslims have taken possession of the forts and the country of the Jats, and that Muslims have become masters of those forts and that country as in the past. Most probably, the Ruhelas will occupy those Jat forts. This has been determined and decided in the most secret world. This recluse has not the shadow of a doubt about that. But the way that victory will be achieved is not yet clear. What is needed is prayers from those special servants of Allah who have been chosen for this purpose.

"¦But keep one thing in your mind, namely, that the Hindus who are apparently in your's and your government's employ, are inclined towards the enemies in their hearts. They do not want that the enemies be exterminated. They will try a thousand tricks in this matter, and endeavour in every way to show to your honour that the path of peace is more profitable.

Make up your mind not to listen to this group (the Hindu employees). If you disregard their advice, you will reach the height of fulfilment. This recluse knows of this (fulfilment) as if he is seeing it with his own eyes.28


5. To Shykh Muhammad Ashiq

"¦I have received your weighty letter"¦

According to whatever this recluse (meaning himself) has learnt (from the occult world), Ahmad Shah Abdali will come again for putting down the enemies. When this sacred promise is fulfilled, he will most probably stay here, and dedicate his life to the last to (the welfare of) this land. In spite of the crimes that abound and the evils that have multiplied, the work is proceeding according to plan. The reason for this most probably is that Allah wants to destroy the power of his enemies.29


6. To Shah Muhammad Ashiq Pahalti

"¦your letter has arrived"¦

Safdar Jang had reached such a state (of damnation) that his foot got afflicted with cancer. The more they removed the (affected) flesh from his foot, the worse it became. At last, they were forced to amputate his foot. Finally, he passed away in this piteous condition. It means that Allah's wrath against the Marhatahs and the Jats has now become manifest, and the defeat and destruction of these people has been decided at the occult level.30


7. To Taj Muhammad Khan Baluch

Your honoured letter regarding suppression of the Jats has arrived. Allah is merciful, and it is hoped that he will crush the enemy. You should rest assured"¦ You should forge unity with Musa Khan and other Muslim groups, and put to use this friendship and unity for facing the enemies. I hope for sure that on account of this unity among Muslims and their nobility, victory will be achieved.

The reason for the rise of enemies and the fall of Muslims is nothing except that, led by their lower nature, Muslims have shared their (Muslims') concerns with Hindus. It is obvious that Hindus will not tolerate the suppression of non-Muslims. Being farsighted and practising patience are praiseworthy things, but not to the extent that non-Muslims take possession of Muslim cities, and go on occupying one (such) city every day"¦ This is no time for farsightedness and patience. This is the time for putting trust in Allah, for manifesting the might of the sword, and for arousing the Muslim sense of honour. If you will do that, it is possible that winds of favour will start blowing. Whatever this recluse knows is this that war with the Jats is a magic spell which appears fearful at first but which, if you depend fully on the power of Allah and draw His attention towards this (war), will turn out to be no more than a mere show. Let me hope that you will keep me informed of developments and the faring of your arms"¦31

Link

It is clear that there was an islamic alliance against the Hindus(Indians). Thus, the Mughals cannot be considered 'Indian' regardless of their place of birth or stay or their mothers' nativity.

These foreign rulers who did not hesitate to go on a genocide of local populace, destroy the local culture, defecate the holy shrines, enslave the women and children as sex-toys, perpetuate unbearable taxes with malicious intent, and provide mal-administration cannot be great kings.

 

[pmaitra]

Try Celebrating the goodness of Akbar and Tipu Sultan in Delhi and Karnataka ; in a Public forum
and see the fun

It is ONLY in this forum that you can celebrate Akbar 's and Tipu Sultan's Greatness

But I KNOW what the 1 billion Hindus of this country think and feel

A handful of pseudo secularists cannot undo the sins of evil Islamic rulers even if they write a million posts
about the So called goodness of Akbar and Tipu sultan

You mentioned two things here.

• Akbar and Tipu Sultan
• Islamic Rulers

The same yardstick cannot be used for both these entities. One is a tiny subset of the other.

 

[Yusuf]

Try Celebrating the goodness of Akbar and Tipu Sultan in Delhi and Karnataka ; in a Public forum
and see the fun

It is ONLY in this forum that you can celebrate Akbar 's and Tipu Sultan's Greatness

But I KNOW what the 1 billion Hindus of this country think and feel

A handful of pseudo secularists cannot undo the sins of evil Islamic rulers even if they write a million posts
about the So called goodness of Akbar and Tipu sultan

Are you an idiot to not understand what a citizen is no matter evil or whatever?

Why is Asoka still great after killing so many in Kalinga? He is less evil because he did not belong to any particular community?
Keep your hatred in your heart and mind. No one is going out there to celebrate anyone. The talk over here was initially who was the greatest king which then moved ridiculously to show Akbar and Tipu were not Indians just because of their alleged hatred for Hindus. So much for objectivity while posting.

 

[pmaitra]

Are you an idiot to not understand what a citizen is no matter evil or whatever?

Why is Asoka still great after killing so many in Kalinga? He is less evil because he did not belong to any particular community?
Keep your hatred in your heart and mind. No one is going out there to celebrate anyone. The talk over here was initially who was the greatest king which then moved ridiculously to show Akbar and Tipu were not Indians just because of their alleged hatred for Hindus. So much for objectivity while posting.

He is indeed one, but you also made a mistake. Next time write in all capitals. Only then will he get the message.