Kamra Air Force base in Pakistan under siege

[LurkerBaba]

Two brothers of suicide bomber, retired PAF official arrested

ISLAMABAD - A suicide bomber, who exploded himself in Kamra Airbase attack, has been identified as Faisal Shahzad resident of Taxila, media reported on Sunday.

The report said that police had arrested 16 people including two brothers of Shahzad and a retired Pakistan Air Force (PAF) servant during raided in different parts of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa province after the identification of the suicide bomber.

"Investigation agencies have found key evidences and information from the cell phones which were recovered from near the bomber," media quoted sources as saying.

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[sayareakd]

Base commander wanted to save his job, therefore he went in for fire fight, looks like PAF has short of men to fight terrorists. BTW if Base commander was killed in fighting, it was the biggest blunder of PAF. Looking at base commander, he does not look at any way to be fighting fit for Close quarters combat (CQC). May be Mahran airbase attack was fresh in his mind.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

^^ yes I just checked all the pics you posted...thanks for the pics...I think the way PAF is keeping silence it seems that there is some serious damage to their early warning capacity...lets wait for some days till the real info comes out

I am not sure how any 'serious damage to PAF AEW&C' could be hidden given that these locations are probably scrutinized closely through satellites year around, especially if the West believes these bases to house nuclear weapons.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Base commander wanted to save his job, therefore he went in for fire fight, looks like PAF has short of men to fight terrorists. BTW if Base commander was killed in fighting, it was the biggest blunder of PAF. Looking at base commander, he does not look at any way to be fighting fit for Close quarters combat (CQC). May be Mahran airbase attack was fresh in his mind.

Or, more likely, the base commander acted with courage and disregard for his life in trying to prevent a terrorist attack.

A job alone is not much of an incentive when the alternative is death.

 

[ranasikander]

Base commander wanted to save his job, therefore he went in for fire fight, looks like PAF has short of men to fight terrorists. BTW if Base commander was killed in fighting, it was the biggest blunder of PAF. Looking at base commander, he does not look at any way to be fighting fit for Close quarters combat (CQC). May be Mahran airbase attack was fresh in his mind.

Dude, You needs to have guts to lead your men in the field.
So in your opinion this man should be taking rest in air conditioned room and let the security guards handle the terrorists.
Its better to die like a soldier with honor then to hide and protect oneself.

 

[ranasikander]

I am not sure how any 'serious damage to PAF AEW&C' could be hidden given that these locations are probably scrutinized closely through satellites year around, especially if the West believes these bases to house nuclear weapons.

Very less possibility of having nukes on Minhas base. The bases (like Mehran and Minhas) are now in the center of cities. You can actually get a full view of Mehran base from any multistory building on shahrah-e-Faisal.
Its highly unlikely that military will keep nukes, fissile material or related accessories in such population centered air bases.
Having nuclear capable air crafts on an airbase is one thing whereas having nukes on air base is a completely different thing.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Very less possibility of having nukes on Minhas base. The bases (like Mehran and Minhas) are now in the center of cities. You can actually get a full view of Mehran base from any multistory building on shahrah-e-Faisal.
Its highly unlikely that military will keep nukes, fissile material or related accessories in such population centered air bases.
Having nuclear capable air crafts on an airbase is one thing whereas having nukes on air base is a completely different thing.

I completely agree - I made a similar comment a few days ago on Jeffrey Goldberg's blog on the Atlantic in an attempt to refute the claim that the attack was some sort of attempt to get hold of Pakistani nukes.

Pakistan's nuclear weapons strategy shifted to delivery by ballistic missiles a long time ago. The PAF is not stupid - given the IAF's numerical and technological advantages over the PAF, it would be very, very hard for the PAF to carry out a nuclear strike mission inside India, so why would nuclear warheads be stored at a PAF base?

And even if they are stored at a PAF base, they are likely in underground bunkers/facilities with more layers of security and protection.

 

[ajtr]

What can be more shameful Mehran/kamra attack or the attack on the country's Parliament and J7K assembly.

 

[Jim Street]

What can be more shameful Mehran/kamra attack or the attack on the country's Parliament and J7K assembly.

The first one....military installations are more important than corrupt politicians, that's why the security of first is high.

 

[Yusuf]

What can be more shameful Mehran/kamra attack or the attack on the country's Parliament and J7K assembly.

Mehran, Pakistan, attacked by Pakistanis.
Indian Parliament attacked by Paki Terrorists.

Which is more shameful?

 

[Jim Street]

Mehran, Pakistan, attacked by Pakistanis.
Indian Parliament attacked by Paki Terrorists.

Which is more shameful?

Isn't it easier for a Pakistani to attack inside Pakistan rather than a Pakistani to attack in India if for comparison we consider the security to be equal. If a Pakistani is lurking around military base, and detained, he will be traced back to be a local resident with original proofs, whereas chances of a Pakistani with fake documents is higher to be found if detained by Indian security agencies.

I think the comparison is not debatable as the situation, environment, target, Modus Operandi and other variables are completely different.

 

[sayareakd]

Dude, You needs to have guts to lead your men in the field.
So in your opinion this man should be taking rest in air conditioned room and let the security guards handle the terrorists.
Its better to die like a soldier with honor then to hide and protect oneself.

Or, more likely, the base commander acted with courage and disregard for his life in trying to prevent a terrorist attack.

A job alone is not much of an incentive when the alternative is death.

both of you did't get it, he is from Air force, that is what he is trained to do, fly aircraft and drop bombs and missiles, he not like Mushi, who was commando, to go around and fire from the hips. He is supposed to be in the control room directing security of the airfield. Plus at his age he is not even fit to be in field.

For terrorists his death would be cherry on the successful attack. He is extremely lucky to get away with bullet or shrapnel injuries.

Conspiracy theory, since he knew that he will be fired for inadequate security at the base, he went with the gun to fight off terrorists and intentionally shoot himself to get some credit as, this would generate public sympathy and he wont be fired from the job, specially when ISI has given advance warning of the attack. :taunt1:

 

[Bhadra]

Mehran, Pakistan, attacked by Pakistanis.
Indian Parliament attacked by Paki Terrorists.

Which is more shameful?

For Pakistan or India ?

Both for Pakistan and India, Political and national institutions being attacked is shameful act
. Why should Al Badr attack Parliament?
To symbolise their hatred for a Nation, its institutions, its culture and its sovereignty thinking it to be a symbol of Hindu India.

why should TTP attack an Air Base.

For Pakistan, an air base has the same significance as for the Parliament in India because for Pakistani society their Military is their culture, their religion and their Allah.

Killing a few civilian politicians would not have even made a news.
Attacking Pakistani nukes is the ultimate propaganda value and letting it be attacked is very shameful for Pakistan.

 

[sayareakd]

I would always rate parliament attack as most brazen daring attack ever happened in world.Attacks on army bases camps etc is nothing new.its too common.even IA camps were attacked in kashmir

Darling what so daring about few people in sarkari car with fake stickers, entering Parliament. Security was not so tight that time. Plus unlike Mehran or Kamra where military was present to take on any attack, at our Parliament only Paramilitary and police was present, still end result was different as compare to both Mehran and Kamra attack.

 

[Yusuf]

Classic trolling in this thread. dont feed the troll and stick to the topic.

 

[blank_quest]

let the nukes from pak get seized by radicals!! what a play will happen in the world will be surely mind-boggling!

 

[Bhadra]

But I read a report in PDF that one aircraft was destroyed and two others damaged.... That is quite an embarrassment !!

That little gal is talking about satellite photos of aircraft inside the hanger...

Phopto to tab ayegi jab wo hanger se bahar nikalane ke layak honge....

 

[Bhadra]

TTP adopted LTTE Hindu tactics

 

[ani82v]

What can be more shameful Mehran/kamra attack or the attack on the country's Parliament and J7K assembly.

In your infinite wisdom and knowledge, can you please give a top 10 most shameful terrorist attacks list? You appear to be expert in this line of research!

 

[sayareakd]

Dude, You needs to have guts to lead your men in the field.
So in your opinion this man should be taking rest in air conditioned room and let the security guards handle the terrorists.
Its better to die like a soldier with honor then to hide and protect oneself.

Or, more likely, the base commander acted with courage and disregard for his life in trying to prevent a terrorist attack.

A job alone is not much of an incentive when the alternative is death.

just add to what i earlier, lets extend this stupidity further, lets imagine a situation where the Pakistan Army GHQ Rawalpindi is attacked (since it was attacked earlier), your Army Chief come out to take on attackers and he died in fire fight, suddenly PA is headless. Now where is courage in this, it is more like utter stupidity. Of-course it is just hypothetical situation.