Israel-Palestine Conflict

[rock127]

because it seems like the majority of india people in this thread genuinely believe in israeli's military capability and they strongly support isreal even if its committing war crimes.

do they also think isreali military power is stronger than their own armed forces?

Israel's military capability is fully backed up by US aka Shupa Powa. Israel indeed is a potent force in their region but if you want to compare apple and orange then create another thread.

First you should question HAMAS how they are using their own civilians and hiding bombs in schools/hospitals.

Also all this fire was started by British Empire which is reduced to a poodle of US today. So 4 fingers are actually pointing towards you now.

 

[HMS Astute]

Israel's military capability is fully backed up by US aka Shupa Powa. Israel indeed is a potent force in their region but if you want to compare apple and orange then create another thread.

First you should question HAMAS how they are using their own civilians and hiding bombs in schools/hospitals.

Also all this fire was started by British Empire which is reduced to a poodle of US today. So 4 fingers are actually pointing towards you now.

but, you have not answered the question.

ok. i'd create another dedicated thread about world's strongest air forces. thanks.

 

[kseeker]

Israeli army announces total withdrawal from Gaza Strip - The Times of India

JERUSALEM: A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas meant to last at least three days has taken effect in the Gaza Strip.

The truce was agreed to by both sides in the month-long war. It started at 8am (0500 GMT) on Tuesday.

During the 72-hour truce, Israel and Hamas are to hold indirect talks in Cairo on a broader deal that would prevent future cross-border violence.

Previous international attempts to broker a temporary halt in the fighting failed.

The Israeli military says all its ground troops will have pulled out of Gaza by the start of the new cease-fire.

The war has claimed nearly 1,900 Palestinian lives — most of them civilians. The war has also left 67 Israelis dead, all but three of them soldiers.

 

[ladder]

UK's Pakistani-origin minister Warsi quits govt over Gaza

UK's Pakistani-origin minister Warsi quits govt over Gaza | Business Standard News

 

[cobra commando]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8

 

[HMS Astute]

UK's Pakistani-origin minister Warsi quits govt over Gaza | Business Standard News

 

[jamesvaikom]

Yeah, Show solidarity to the UMMAH?

Ummah for the win

Is it not it is all about(even the stupid retarded indian decision to stand with Palestine), Ummah?

Israel don't care whether we voted against them or not. They will continue to do business with us. We need to vote against them to get business and trade opportunities in countries like Iran. As ordinary citizens we can support Israel. But as we are not super power our Govt. should make sure that both Israel and Palestine feel that we are with them. Our Govt. should not act like foolish leaders in countries like North Korea, venezuela or EU who lost huge opportunities by siding with few countries.

I think now you overtook @SajeevJino as main supporter of Israel in DFI.

 

[ladder]

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[roma]

Israel don't care whether we voted against them or not. They will continue to do business with us. We need to vote against them to get business and trade opportunities in countries like Iran. As ordinary citizens we can support Israel. But as we are not super power our Govt. should make sure that both Israel and Palestine feel that we are with them. Our Govt. should not act like foolish leaders in countries like North Korea, venezuela or EU who lost huge opportunities by siding with few countries.
I think now you overtook @SajeevJino as main supporter of Israel in DFI.

(1) Nice post ! good balance of the forces and what our position should be .

(2) I'll post here the lnik to a video by Dr Swamy . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzcqj8XFiVE&list=UUDnCzWI3cKSExdlDfuB3Zeg

Main points are that :-

(a) India has done back-door diplomacy ( as everyone else does )
and got assurance form Is that they are not offended by some of our UN voting history.

(b) Swamy advocates a more openly pro-Is stand in future -. im not so sure it is a good idea .
Having their embassy openly fly their flag in India should be good enough plus the growing govt-to govt
cooperation in an increasing number of projects is an on-going sign that the relationship is good. At critical
times in UN voting India can either walk-out , abstain or in extreme cases vote FOR Is.

(c) An IS diplomatic representative was present at the lecture and gave his shout of approval at the
beginning of the lecture ( ..not v impt - but i thought I'd add that )

(d) Swamy indicated that Modi will likely visit Is in Jan next year ( 2015 ) -. to loud cheers of all present.


(3) I personally would recommend more international programs between Indian and Is Universities . There is
or recently was an academic boycott of Is Univs and so they should be keen to have India unis want to do
things with them . Eg for MBA ( as i am from that area ) we could have a portion of the program done
at Technion uni in Is or a 3- month project : we can have understanding with them that the final Degree
does not mention Israel so that people will not have trouble ni going to oil-rich areas to work . But the very
experience of studying and Living in Is will be a great eye-opener for Indian students.

 

[Ajeesh Kumar S]

https://www.facebook.com/alisont.br...=0&total_comments=13&notif_t=mentions_comment

 

[Ajeesh Kumar S]

https://www.facebook.com/alisont.br...&offset=0&total_comments=13&notif_t=mentions_
facebook comment of western person about all hindus,and modi by abusing them as zionists ,when tell about prohibiton of wepon use by both israel and palestine...

 

[HMS Astute]

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[rock127]

UK's Pakistani-origin minister Warsi quits govt over Gaza | Business Standard News

That Paki woman proved that "Jis thaali me khatein hain usi mei chedd kartein hain".

Born in England which gave her everything but support for Palestinians.She is the first Muslim Minister in England but quickly showed her aukaat. She should be declared a traitor since she is against England. And she is greeted by so many Muslims specially Pakis in England.

This is enough of warning for England if they want more of these traitors in their systems since they would definitely work for their Religion sidelining country anytime.

Education,Living standard didn't help much in her case.Snake remains a snake and it doesn't matter how well you feed it.

 

[ladder]

That Paki woman proved that "Jis thaali me khatein hain usi mei chedd kartein hain".

Born in England which gave her everything but support for Palestinians.She is the first Muslim Minister in England but quickly showed her aukaat. She should be declared a traitor since she is against England. And she is greeted by so many Muslims specially Pakis in England.

This is enough of warning for England if they want more of these traitors in their systems since they would definitely work for their Religion sidelining country anytime.

Education,Living standard didn't help much in her case.Snake remains a snake and it doesn't matter how well you feed it.

Warning enough?

The Brits want to discuss human rights issue in Kashmir because they want to please 100,000 Kashmiri residing in UK and appease other Pakistanis by doing so.

They want to make their law sharia complaint. Even when many areas have become no go areas in London where vigilante patrols are common.

And last I knew their cultural secretary too is/was a Muslim from Pakistani origin @HMS Astute can verify.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

(2) I'll post here the lnik to a video by Dr Swamy . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzcqj8XFiVE&list=UUDnCzWI3cKSExdlDfuB3Zeg


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was surprised to see that not some but all the indian muslims or muslims ingeneral wer against dr swami and israel. why cant they realise that supporting and being friends with israel is in best indias interest. they still see this war as jews vs muslims and not israel vs UN recognised terrorisit org hamas.

 

[Mad Indian]

Education,Living standard didn't help much in her case.Snake remains a snake and it doesn't matter how well you feed it.

This is the main reason I support Israel. They seem to be the only nation in the world who understand how to deal with the snakes.

@jamesvaikom

The second reason I support Israel is because they are the most abused around people in the world. Jews have endured the biggest hatred among all the surviving races and the very fact that they are still so successful after that kind of abuse stands as a testimony to their nerves of steel. I wish indians learn this will to survive from the israelis. Also, being a capitalist, the sufferings of the jewish race at the hand of others provides best example of how shit ----ed socialism is when you consider that the abuse jews get from others is primarily out of hatred about their success , which closely resembles how the commie/socialist dogs associate someone's success and their own failure as being caused by that someone's deception/wrongdoing rather than accepting their own failure .

And I have a hard time understanding the intellectual dogs' barkings against Israel. Seriously why does the suicide bombings and the riots target these intellectual dogs ? I mean the riots and suicide bombings dont discriminate between these pseudo intellectual dogs and right wingers like me when they do happen. How is it fair? We right wingers have been warning about the inherent dangers of such a barbaric death cult and have been calling for stern measures against it while it is the dishonest pseudo intellectual dogs who stand for the acceptance of such barbarity under their brain farted logic of treating both civilised people and barbaric savages as equals! I mean come on! Its not fair that right wingers like us have to suffer from suicide bombs and riots indiscriminately as does the pseudo intellectuals who are to be blamed for the existence of such things in the first place! I really hope that , next time a bomb blast happens it takes pseudo intellectuals alone leaving back the sane right wingers

 

[HMS Astute]

Obama signs bill giving Israel $225 million for missile defense system

By Katie Zezima August 4 at 6:55 PM

President Obama on Monday signed a bill that will give Israel $225 million to restock its Iron Dome missile defense system.

The House voted 395-8 to pass the bill Friday night.

The missile shield system was developed jointly by the United States and Israel and is said to have intercepted dozens of rockets fired from Gaza during the conflict that began July 17. The system uses advanced tracking technology to determine if a rocket is headed for a population center; if it is it destroys the rocket mid-flight.

Israel and Hamas agreed late Monday to an Egyptian-sponsored 72-hour cease fire.

Obama signs bill giving Israel $225 million for missile defense system - The Washington Post

 

[Mad Indian]

@HMS Astute

The reason most non muslim , non retarded(commie/socialist dogs) indians support Israel is because we(Israel and India) are the biggest victims of terrorism in the world. So, we stand with israel in their fight against jihad and ummah. And it has nothing to do with israeli military might. Its really stupid if you think our support of israel is because of its military strength. US has the strongest military in the world, but did you see indians siding with US in the Ukraine issue?

And what do you mean war crimes? Israel is surrounded by nations which would happily wipe them out if it was possible. It would be interesting to see how UK would react if they were surrounded by such a hostile neighbors . If anything, i am pretty sure that you guys wont throw out roses to them nor would yiu marry off your daughters as concubines for the enemy. What israel is doing is perfectly logical and pragmatic considering their circumstance.

This is just my personal opinion and I strongly believe that every palestinian dead is one terrorist(future or present) less for the rest of the world to worry about and is a good thing for the world peace, progress and prosperity, considering that not even children are spared by palestians when it comes to terrorist training. And why the ---- does the world and intellectual dungs around the world focus only on the violation of human rights by Israel? Are the palestinians purer than snow of mt etna? Atleast, I never saw a suicide bomber targetting only military enemies and as far as ican see their target is almost always civilians. So whats that if not human rights abuse? Human rights protection?

Anyway israel is an important supplier of arms to us and have stood on the side of india on several occasions and sevral issues like kashmir. So that is an added reason we support israel .

 

[HMS Astute]

yes because the hundreds of children which are being slaughtered are definitely terrorists. Is the reason why they're stating that the entire population of Gaza are terrorists is because they democratically voted in Hamas? Whilst our governments remain silent, favouring arms deals over integrity, surely, given that most of the world is disgusted by what Israel is doing, there must be some bright people around the world to globally organise something that allows people of the world to put pressure on such regimes.. even what you have thought is true, it doesn't make it any less of a sick and disgusting act to shell a hospital. anyone from Israel who issued an order to shell a UN refuge, school or hospital should face the full force of Palestinian justice. I don't know, like an alternative banking system or something as far out there along those lines that allows people to harness power rather than corrupt capitalist governments that run for big corporations rather than people. more than that, israel has said that ANYONE who works for the government is a terrorist. as a result any employee at all of the government in gaza is considered fair game by israel. disgusting jews!

 

[thethinker]

yes because the hundreds of children which are being slaughtered are definitely terrorists. Is the reason why they're stating that the entire population of Gaza are terrorists is because they democratically voted in Hamas? Whilst our governments remain silent, favouring arms deals over integrity, surely, given that most of the world is disgusted by what Israel is doing, there must be some bright people around the world to globally organise something that allows people of the world to put pressure on such regimes.. even what you have thought is true, it doesn't make it any less of a sick and disgusting act to shell a hospital. anyone from Israel who issued an order to shell a UN refuge, school or hospital should face the full force of Palestinian justice. I don't know, like an alternative banking system or something as far out there along those lines that allows people to harness power rather than corrupt capitalist governments that run for big corporations rather than people. more than that. hamas runs the government there, israel has said that ANYONE who works for the government is a terrorist. as a result any employee at all of the government in gaza is considered fair game by israel.

Before you think that shelling a hospital is a bad thing, you should consider the context. Hamas tactics involve the use of playgrounds, hospitals, schools and other innocent civilian structures as a reinforcement and supply center / stash for weapons. Also, the use of civilians to shield IDF advances is accepted tactically by such people.

Hamas Combat Manual Found In Gaza Encourages Use Of Palestinian Civillians As Human Shields