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what happened to Maitri -
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/02/trishuls-successor-drdo-mbda-maitri-sr.html
it was a drdo - mbda project.
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/02/trishuls-successor-drdo-mbda-maitri-sr.html
it was a drdo - mbda project.
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Still in papers and yet to finalise when French Prez comes here. Red Tape is killing all the projects :|what happened to Maitri -
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/02/trishuls-successor-drdo-mbda-maitri-sr.html
it was a drdo - mbda project.
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It will be on the line like the Barak-8. But may take more years to get frutification
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Well the logical choice would be to go for the Pantsyr as we already operate the tungushka and various other russian origin SAM systems. Also the flexibility of the system allows it to be installed on a number of platform choices both wheeled and tracked, i would love to see the pantsyr on a TATA 8x8 and an arjun chassis.
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Should just cut the Red Tape and buy MICA VL.
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Political Rivalries in India Stunt Defense Spending
Manmohan Singh and Pranab Mukherjee squabble while India's defense suffers
A continuing cold war between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee has stalled India's plans for a two-front war if necessary with Pakistan and China despite the government's recent announcements of progress.
In fact India's defense acquisitions are moribund and Indian defense preparedness is at an all-time low. Insiders say Mukherjee's ministry has vetoed virtually every defense acquisition proposal on one pretext or another. India imports 70 percent of its defense armaments.
The antipathy between the two goes back to 2004, when Congress President Sonia Gandhi found the low-key Singh more suitable as Prime Minister than Mukherjee. Gandhi also in 2007 thwarted Mukherjee's ambition to become India's president, ostensibly because Mukherjee couldn't be spared as the workhorse of the party and the government. Today the political grapevine says Gandhi may consider Manmohan Singh for the president's job in 2012, by which time Rahul Gandhi would be ready to take over as the Prime Minister, once again spoiling Mukherjee's ambitions.
When the portfolios of the United Progressive Alliance government headed by Gandhi's Congress Party were being finalized, Mukherjee told Sonia point-blank that he would not take any other ministry except Finance. Singh did not want that, as Mukherjee had been his boss a quarter century ago when Singh was the Reserve Bank of India Governor and Mukherjee was the Finance Minister. Singh lobbied hard for his chum Montek Singh Ahluwalia instead. But Gandhi was well aware that that she could no longer deny Mukherjee. Since then, Mukherjee has been paying Singh back in the same coin. In many cases, the Finance Ministry has "advised" the Defense Ministry about the efficacy of a different sets of weapons systems than those chosen by Defense.
The result of the rivalry is that personal squabbling and ego trips have taken primacy over issues of national interest. India's military capability has declined, adversely affecting combat readiness despite a government projection that defense needs have increased markedly in the past 18 months or so since the November 2008 Mumbai terror strikes. Unprecedented air incursions by the Chinese in 2009 and Beijing's blunt warning to India on the issues of Arunachal Pradesh and the Dalai Lama have added to the threat perception.
Whether it is submarines or aircraft carriers for the Indian Navy, fighter aircraft or mid-air refueling aircraft for the Indian Air Force, bullet-proof vests or artillery deals for the Indian Army, the government is showing no anxiety to get its act together, knowing full well that even if orders for various defense systems were to be placed today it would take half a decade for the first supplies to begin trickling in.
Throughout 2009, just two procurement-specific meetings of the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) were held, 26 procurement proposals were examined by the Ministry of Defense and 11 proposals. Of these, not a single procurement deal was completed.
Some foreign manufacturers reportedly have threatened to either completely withdraw from India, or equally worse, sell the same negotiated wares to Indian rivals. Though India has bought the naval version of the MiG-29K for carrier-borne operations, it is not clear how and when these aircraft are going to be used as the refitting of the ageing Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, now supposed to go into service in 2012, has been that of constantly shifting goalposts. (Asia Sentinel, 25 April 2010)
Several big- ticket defense deals, such as for Scorpene submarines, continue to remain in limbo because of various objections from the Ministry of Finance. Hanging fire is a huge US$12 billion contract for 126 advanced jet fighters with the possibility of buying 60 more. This gives rise to the question that if the Finance Ministry were to critically examine and override the opinion of the Ministry of Defense on each procurement deal, then what is the use of the defense ministry having a Defence Acquisition Council and a price Negotiation Committee? The idea of introducing these two institutionalized mechanisms in the defense ministry was to put the process of defence acquisitions on a fast track. With the Ministries of Defense and Finance working at cross-purposes, this process is having just an opposite effect.
On the other hand, the US is being given a special treatment as every single deal with the US is being done through the Foreign Military Sales route. The P-81 long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft deal is a case in point. There are no field trials and no offset obligations for the American vendors under the FMS route – an unfair trade practice that also breeds corruption and favoritism for India.
The FMS is a program of the US Department of Defense which facilitates sales of US arms, defense equipment, defense services, and military training to foreign governments. The purchaser does not deal directly with the defense contractor. Instead, the Defence Security Cooperation Agency serves as an intermediary, usually handling procurement, logistics and delivery and often providing product support and training. FMS is based on countries being authorized to participate, cases as the mechanism to procure services, and a deposit in a US Trust Fund or appropriate credit and approval to fund services.
In the fiscal year 2009-10, the defense ministry returned as unspent the equivalent of US$1.59 billion to the Finance Ministry, the fourth consecutive year when the defense ministry returned allocations to the Finance Ministry. As a result, the Finance Ministry allocated only the equivalent of US$13.51 billion as capital outlays for the three armed services during 2010-11, which in effect means just an increase of US$ 1.17 billion over the previous fiscal year for the purchase of new weapon systems and spare parts for maintenance support.
The cancellation of the US$1.5 billion mid-air refueller deal with European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) for six A-330 Multi Role Tanker Transport aircraft is a classic case of defense diplomacy gone awry. The United Progressive Alliance canceled the deal, ostensibly because of the high price factor but actually to accommodate late entrant Boeing Company of the US. Four European ambassadors in New Delhi have registered their protests. Germany, where the A-330s are built, has protested angrily. German ambassador Thomas Matussek remarked that the cancellation of the deal came as a "nasty surprise."
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=12835
Manmohan Singh and Pranab Mukherjee squabble while India's defense suffers
A continuing cold war between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee has stalled India's plans for a two-front war if necessary with Pakistan and China despite the government's recent announcements of progress.
In fact India's defense acquisitions are moribund and Indian defense preparedness is at an all-time low. Insiders say Mukherjee's ministry has vetoed virtually every defense acquisition proposal on one pretext or another. India imports 70 percent of its defense armaments.
The antipathy between the two goes back to 2004, when Congress President Sonia Gandhi found the low-key Singh more suitable as Prime Minister than Mukherjee. Gandhi also in 2007 thwarted Mukherjee's ambition to become India's president, ostensibly because Mukherjee couldn't be spared as the workhorse of the party and the government. Today the political grapevine says Gandhi may consider Manmohan Singh for the president's job in 2012, by which time Rahul Gandhi would be ready to take over as the Prime Minister, once again spoiling Mukherjee's ambitions.
When the portfolios of the United Progressive Alliance government headed by Gandhi's Congress Party were being finalized, Mukherjee told Sonia point-blank that he would not take any other ministry except Finance. Singh did not want that, as Mukherjee had been his boss a quarter century ago when Singh was the Reserve Bank of India Governor and Mukherjee was the Finance Minister. Singh lobbied hard for his chum Montek Singh Ahluwalia instead. But Gandhi was well aware that that she could no longer deny Mukherjee. Since then, Mukherjee has been paying Singh back in the same coin. In many cases, the Finance Ministry has "advised" the Defense Ministry about the efficacy of a different sets of weapons systems than those chosen by Defense.
The result of the rivalry is that personal squabbling and ego trips have taken primacy over issues of national interest. India's military capability has declined, adversely affecting combat readiness despite a government projection that defense needs have increased markedly in the past 18 months or so since the November 2008 Mumbai terror strikes. Unprecedented air incursions by the Chinese in 2009 and Beijing's blunt warning to India on the issues of Arunachal Pradesh and the Dalai Lama have added to the threat perception.
Whether it is submarines or aircraft carriers for the Indian Navy, fighter aircraft or mid-air refueling aircraft for the Indian Air Force, bullet-proof vests or artillery deals for the Indian Army, the government is showing no anxiety to get its act together, knowing full well that even if orders for various defense systems were to be placed today it would take half a decade for the first supplies to begin trickling in.
Throughout 2009, just two procurement-specific meetings of the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) were held, 26 procurement proposals were examined by the Ministry of Defense and 11 proposals. Of these, not a single procurement deal was completed.
Some foreign manufacturers reportedly have threatened to either completely withdraw from India, or equally worse, sell the same negotiated wares to Indian rivals. Though India has bought the naval version of the MiG-29K for carrier-borne operations, it is not clear how and when these aircraft are going to be used as the refitting of the ageing Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier, now supposed to go into service in 2012, has been that of constantly shifting goalposts. (Asia Sentinel, 25 April 2010)
Several big- ticket defense deals, such as for Scorpene submarines, continue to remain in limbo because of various objections from the Ministry of Finance. Hanging fire is a huge US$12 billion contract for 126 advanced jet fighters with the possibility of buying 60 more. This gives rise to the question that if the Finance Ministry were to critically examine and override the opinion of the Ministry of Defense on each procurement deal, then what is the use of the defense ministry having a Defence Acquisition Council and a price Negotiation Committee? The idea of introducing these two institutionalized mechanisms in the defense ministry was to put the process of defence acquisitions on a fast track. With the Ministries of Defense and Finance working at cross-purposes, this process is having just an opposite effect.
On the other hand, the US is being given a special treatment as every single deal with the US is being done through the Foreign Military Sales route. The P-81 long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft deal is a case in point. There are no field trials and no offset obligations for the American vendors under the FMS route – an unfair trade practice that also breeds corruption and favoritism for India.
The FMS is a program of the US Department of Defense which facilitates sales of US arms, defense equipment, defense services, and military training to foreign governments. The purchaser does not deal directly with the defense contractor. Instead, the Defence Security Cooperation Agency serves as an intermediary, usually handling procurement, logistics and delivery and often providing product support and training. FMS is based on countries being authorized to participate, cases as the mechanism to procure services, and a deposit in a US Trust Fund or appropriate credit and approval to fund services.
In the fiscal year 2009-10, the defense ministry returned as unspent the equivalent of US$1.59 billion to the Finance Ministry, the fourth consecutive year when the defense ministry returned allocations to the Finance Ministry. As a result, the Finance Ministry allocated only the equivalent of US$13.51 billion as capital outlays for the three armed services during 2010-11, which in effect means just an increase of US$ 1.17 billion over the previous fiscal year for the purchase of new weapon systems and spare parts for maintenance support.
The cancellation of the US$1.5 billion mid-air refueller deal with European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) for six A-330 Multi Role Tanker Transport aircraft is a classic case of defense diplomacy gone awry. The United Progressive Alliance canceled the deal, ostensibly because of the high price factor but actually to accommodate late entrant Boeing Company of the US. Four European ambassadors in New Delhi have registered their protests. Germany, where the A-330s are built, has protested angrily. German ambassador Thomas Matussek remarked that the cancellation of the deal came as a "nasty surprise."
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=12835
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Army to procure short-range missile system
NEW DELHI: The army is planning to procure a short-range surface to air missile (SRSAM) system to counter threats to cities and important installations in the country from enemy aircraft and missiles.
"We are planning to induct the 20 km-range SRSAM systems to strengthen our air defence capabilities to provide cover from aerial threats to our important bases and installations," army officials said in New Delhi.
The procurement process was recently initiated with the release of a Request for Information (RFI) in this regard.
According to the RFI, the army wants a missile system that can be transported on both rail and road mobile launchers in all possible terrains in the country.
The missile should also be able to target objects moving at speeds between zero to 500 meters per second including hovering targets such as Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), fighter and surveillance aircraft and helicopters.
The army wants the new missile system to be capable of operating in both day and night conditions and take on targets in the dark also.
In the recent past, the army has taken up several projects to do away with the night-blindness of its existing fleet of tanks and Infantry Combat Vehicles.
As per the RFI, radar of the SRSAM system should be capable of tracking a number of targets simultaneously and should have Electronic Counter Counter-Measures (ECCM) to be able to support the electronic warfare environment.
The RFI states that the system should be capable of operating in Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare environment.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-range-missile-system/articleshow/5882536.cms
NEW DELHI: The army is planning to procure a short-range surface to air missile (SRSAM) system to counter threats to cities and important installations in the country from enemy aircraft and missiles.
"We are planning to induct the 20 km-range SRSAM systems to strengthen our air defence capabilities to provide cover from aerial threats to our important bases and installations," army officials said in New Delhi.
The procurement process was recently initiated with the release of a Request for Information (RFI) in this regard.
According to the RFI, the army wants a missile system that can be transported on both rail and road mobile launchers in all possible terrains in the country.
The missile should also be able to target objects moving at speeds between zero to 500 meters per second including hovering targets such as Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), fighter and surveillance aircraft and helicopters.
The army wants the new missile system to be capable of operating in both day and night conditions and take on targets in the dark also.
In the recent past, the army has taken up several projects to do away with the night-blindness of its existing fleet of tanks and Infantry Combat Vehicles.
As per the RFI, radar of the SRSAM system should be capable of tracking a number of targets simultaneously and should have Electronic Counter Counter-Measures (ECCM) to be able to support the electronic warfare environment.
The RFI states that the system should be capable of operating in Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare environment.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-range-missile-system/articleshow/5882536.cms
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Tor M1 9M330 Air Defense System
The TOR-M1 surface-to-air missile system is a mobile, integrated air defense system, designed for operation at medium-, low- and very low –altitudes, against fixed/rotary wing aircraft, UAVs, guided missiles and precision weapon. The system is capable of operating in an intensive aerial jamming environment. The system is comprised of a number of missile Transporter Launcher Vehicle (TLV). A Russian air defense Tor battalion consists of 3 - 5 companies, each equipped with four TLVs. Each TLV is equipped with 8 ready to launch missiles, associating radars, fire control systems and a battery command post. The combat vehicle can operate autonomously, firing from stationary positions or on the move. Set-up time is rated at 3 minutes and typical reaction time, from target detection to missile launch is 5-8 seconds. Reaction time could range from 3.4 seconds for stationary positions to 10 seconds while on the move. Each fire unit can engage and launch missiles against two separate targets.
Tor M1 can detect and track up to 48 targets (minimum radar cross section of 0.1 square meter) at a maximum range of 25 km, and engage two of them simultaneously, at a speed of up to 700 m/sec, and at a distance of 1 to 12 km. The system's high lethality (aircraft kill probability of 0.92-0.95) is maintained at altitude of 10 – 6,000 m'. The vertically launched, single-stage solid rocket propelled missile is capable of maneuvering at loads up to 30gs. It is equipped with a 15kg high-explosive fragmentation warhead activated by a proximity fuse. The system is offered as fully integrated tracked combat vehicle, or as a modular combat unit (TOR-M1T) comprising a truck mounted mobile control module and launcher/antenna units, carried on a trailer. Other configuration include separated towed systems, as well as shelter-based systems, for the protection of fixed sites.
Tor M1 missile launched from the vertical container/launcher. The missile uses cold launch to exit and clear the launcher, and the rocket motor and thrusters are ignited at an altitude of 20 meters.The missile is also effective against precision guided weapons and cruise missiles. In tests the missile demonstrated kill probability of such targets ranging from 0.6 to 0.9.
The first operator of the Tor system was the Russian Army Air-Defense, which operates 100 units of the SA-15 Gauntlet variant. The Russian navy also uses the naval version known as SA-N-9. China bought 50 systems and possibly 25 more, between 1997 and 2002. The Greek army fielded 21 Tor M-1 systems. Most recently (December 2005) Iran was reported to sign a deal worth US$ 1.0 billion covering the procurement of up to 29 TOR M-1 missile systems, modernization of air-force systems and the supply of patrol boats. The system was also proposed to several other countries. The TOR component of the deal was reported to be US$700 million. Deliveries of the TOR systems began in November 2006 and by the year's end, over half of the order has been fulfilled. On January 16, 2007 Russia announced that deliveries were completed. Russian defense minister Sergei Ivanov confirmed the delivery and added that Moscow will continue to develop military and technical cooperation with Tehran. This could hint on further sales of S-300 air defense missiles, which were requested by Iran for several years, but so-far denied by Russia. The delivery was completed about 12 months ahead of time. According to the original schedule, completion of deliveries were expected to continue through 2008. (more from freerepublic). The Russian Press indicated on January 30, 2007 that Venezuela is also interesting in aquiring Tor M1 systems at an estimated cost of US$290 million. Venezuela plans to have the new systems interoperable with new radars and fighter jets recently bought from China and Russia.
Russians are reportedly working on TOR-M3 maybe we will be the first customers??
Tor M1 9M330 Air Defense System
The TOR-M1 surface-to-air missile system is a mobile, integrated air defense system, designed for operation at medium-, low- and very low –altitudes, against fixed/rotary wing aircraft, UAVs, guided missiles and precision weapon. The system is capable of operating in an intensive aerial jamming environment. The system is comprised of a number of missile Transporter Launcher Vehicle (TLV). A Russian air defense Tor battalion consists of 3 - 5 companies, each equipped with four TLVs. Each TLV is equipped with 8 ready to launch missiles, associating radars, fire control systems and a battery command post. The combat vehicle can operate autonomously, firing from stationary positions or on the move. Set-up time is rated at 3 minutes and typical reaction time, from target detection to missile launch is 5-8 seconds. Reaction time could range from 3.4 seconds for stationary positions to 10 seconds while on the move. Each fire unit can engage and launch missiles against two separate targets.
Tor M1 can detect and track up to 48 targets (minimum radar cross section of 0.1 square meter) at a maximum range of 25 km, and engage two of them simultaneously, at a speed of up to 700 m/sec, and at a distance of 1 to 12 km. The system's high lethality (aircraft kill probability of 0.92-0.95) is maintained at altitude of 10 – 6,000 m'. The vertically launched, single-stage solid rocket propelled missile is capable of maneuvering at loads up to 30gs. It is equipped with a 15kg high-explosive fragmentation warhead activated by a proximity fuse. The system is offered as fully integrated tracked combat vehicle, or as a modular combat unit (TOR-M1T) comprising a truck mounted mobile control module and launcher/antenna units, carried on a trailer. Other configuration include separated towed systems, as well as shelter-based systems, for the protection of fixed sites.
Tor M1 missile launched from the vertical container/launcher. The missile uses cold launch to exit and clear the launcher, and the rocket motor and thrusters are ignited at an altitude of 20 meters.The missile is also effective against precision guided weapons and cruise missiles. In tests the missile demonstrated kill probability of such targets ranging from 0.6 to 0.9.
The first operator of the Tor system was the Russian Army Air-Defense, which operates 100 units of the SA-15 Gauntlet variant. The Russian navy also uses the naval version known as SA-N-9. China bought 50 systems and possibly 25 more, between 1997 and 2002. The Greek army fielded 21 Tor M-1 systems. Most recently (December 2005) Iran was reported to sign a deal worth US$ 1.0 billion covering the procurement of up to 29 TOR M-1 missile systems, modernization of air-force systems and the supply of patrol boats. The system was also proposed to several other countries. The TOR component of the deal was reported to be US$700 million. Deliveries of the TOR systems began in November 2006 and by the year's end, over half of the order has been fulfilled. On January 16, 2007 Russia announced that deliveries were completed. Russian defense minister Sergei Ivanov confirmed the delivery and added that Moscow will continue to develop military and technical cooperation with Tehran. This could hint on further sales of S-300 air defense missiles, which were requested by Iran for several years, but so-far denied by Russia. The delivery was completed about 12 months ahead of time. According to the original schedule, completion of deliveries were expected to continue through 2008. (more from freerepublic). The Russian Press indicated on January 30, 2007 that Venezuela is also interesting in aquiring Tor M1 systems at an estimated cost of US$290 million. Venezuela plans to have the new systems interoperable with new radars and fighter jets recently bought from China and Russia.
Russians are reportedly working on TOR-M3 maybe we will be the first customers??
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Indian National Cadet Corps To Procure 110 New Microlight Aircraft
Indian National Cadet Corps To Procure 110 New Microlight Aircraft
The National Cadet Corps (NCC), India's military cadet organisation, has put out a tender to procure 110 microlight aircraft for its Air Force Wing. The NCC has 47 Air Squadrons and 11 technical Air Squadrons. Each squadron is authorised four flying machines. The 110 new microlights will replace old wooden gliders and augment a limited number of existing microlights. The NCC currently has 45 Zen Air Microlitesand six Raj Hamsa X-Air microlights.
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Indian National Cadet Corps To Procure 110 New Microlight Aircraft
The National Cadet Corps (NCC), India's military cadet organisation, has put out a tender to procure 110 microlight aircraft for its Air Force Wing. The NCC has 47 Air Squadrons and 11 technical Air Squadrons. Each squadron is authorised four flying machines. The 110 new microlights will replace old wooden gliders and augment a limited number of existing microlights. The NCC currently has 45 Zen Air Microlitesand six Raj Hamsa X-Air microlights.
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BSNL to procure equipment for Defence by July-end
BSNL to procure equipment for Defence by July-end
New Delhi, May 5 (PTI) The state-run telco BSNL will start procuring the equipment for building a dedicated network for the Defence forces to release the radio waves for high speed mobile services by the end of July.
However, the spectrum allocation to the successful bidders in the ongoing 3G auction would be as per the timeline and there would be no delay beyond September, DoT and BSNL asserted today.
The advance purchase order for access network of the Navy and backbone network of defence, including access network of the Army, are likely to be issued by the end of July, said an official statement.
Defence minister AK Antony today said in a written reply in Parliament that the government has approved Rs 9,175.16 crore for setting up a nationwide dedicated and security exclusive optical fibre cable network for the Army, the Navy and the Air Force.
BSNL to procure equipment for Defence by July-end
New Delhi, May 5 (PTI) The state-run telco BSNL will start procuring the equipment for building a dedicated network for the Defence forces to release the radio waves for high speed mobile services by the end of July.
However, the spectrum allocation to the successful bidders in the ongoing 3G auction would be as per the timeline and there would be no delay beyond September, DoT and BSNL asserted today.
The advance purchase order for access network of the Navy and backbone network of defence, including access network of the Army, are likely to be issued by the end of July, said an official statement.
Defence minister AK Antony today said in a written reply in Parliament that the government has approved Rs 9,175.16 crore for setting up a nationwide dedicated and security exclusive optical fibre cable network for the Army, the Navy and the Air Force.
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Defence to get dedicated communication network by 2013
The Armed forces will be able to switch to a dedicated optical fibre network by 2013 which the state-run BSNL will complete by 2012-end paving the way for the Services to release radio waves for commercial use by mobile operators.
BSNL in its status report to the department of telecom and a Parliamentary standing committee has conveyed that the timeline for implementation of the Army and the Navy network is estimated at three years for which the tenders will be finalised by this August and implemented by December 2012.
Radio spectrum is the carrier of voice signals in wireless devices and is key for cellular mobile telephony to operate.
BSNL said it has already completed a similar project for the Air Force which is currently under testing. It added that this network for the Air Force is smaller in scale and size than those of the Army and the Navy. But the bulk of the 45 Mhz spectrum to be vacated will come from the Air Force (42.5MHz).
Total cost of the optical fibre nectowrk for the Army and the Navy is Rs 8,098 crore, while that of Air Force is Rs it was 1,077 crore with the total cost at Rs 9,175.16 crore.
BSNL has been reimbursed for the Air Force project to the extent of Rs 720 crore with the rest to be paid to the PSU in phases, said the report.
Defence with the assurance of getting an alternate communication network under the supersvision of DoT and BSNL would not have to wait till 2013 to release spectrum.
The vacation of radio waves can happen as sought by DoT which could be around this September when the 3G auction winners start rolling out high speed mobile services. Out of the 45Mhz of radio waves to be released by the Armed forces, 25MHz is 3G spectrum.
The Defence forces are major users of spectrum due to the strategic reasons. But the the rapid growth of mobile users has led to the demand for more spectrum. This had led to the government asking BSNL to prepare an alternate network get the defence forces to vacate spectrum keeping the security concerns in mind.
http://www.business-standard.com/in...icated-communication-network-by-2013/93470/on
The Armed forces will be able to switch to a dedicated optical fibre network by 2013 which the state-run BSNL will complete by 2012-end paving the way for the Services to release radio waves for commercial use by mobile operators.
BSNL in its status report to the department of telecom and a Parliamentary standing committee has conveyed that the timeline for implementation of the Army and the Navy network is estimated at three years for which the tenders will be finalised by this August and implemented by December 2012.
Radio spectrum is the carrier of voice signals in wireless devices and is key for cellular mobile telephony to operate.
BSNL said it has already completed a similar project for the Air Force which is currently under testing. It added that this network for the Air Force is smaller in scale and size than those of the Army and the Navy. But the bulk of the 45 Mhz spectrum to be vacated will come from the Air Force (42.5MHz).
Total cost of the optical fibre nectowrk for the Army and the Navy is Rs 8,098 crore, while that of Air Force is Rs it was 1,077 crore with the total cost at Rs 9,175.16 crore.
BSNL has been reimbursed for the Air Force project to the extent of Rs 720 crore with the rest to be paid to the PSU in phases, said the report.
Defence with the assurance of getting an alternate communication network under the supersvision of DoT and BSNL would not have to wait till 2013 to release spectrum.
The vacation of radio waves can happen as sought by DoT which could be around this September when the 3G auction winners start rolling out high speed mobile services. Out of the 45Mhz of radio waves to be released by the Armed forces, 25MHz is 3G spectrum.
The Defence forces are major users of spectrum due to the strategic reasons. But the the rapid growth of mobile users has led to the demand for more spectrum. This had led to the government asking BSNL to prepare an alternate network get the defence forces to vacate spectrum keeping the security concerns in mind.
http://www.business-standard.com/in...icated-communication-network-by-2013/93470/on
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BSNL lowers bar for Defence cable project
New tender allows unlisted firms also to bid for Rs 10,000-cr deal.
New Delhi, May 7 Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd has diluted the eligibility conditions for supplying optical fibre cables for the Rs 10,000-crore Defence network project.
The PSU has floated a new tender which allows even unlisted cable suppliers to bid for the contract. In the earlier tender, BSNL had made it mandatory for the bidders to be listed entities, which disqualified most of the cable suppliers in the country.
BSNL has also stipulated that companies which have rolled out 15,000 km to telecom operators in the last two fiscal years will be eligible. It was 20,000 km in the earlier tender.
The move comes after some companies termed the conditions stipulated in the earlier tender as 'tough'. Optical fibre cable suppliers, including Himachal Futuristic Communications Ltd and Paramount Cables, had written to BSNL seeking a review of the eligibility conditions set by the PSU. The companies had told BSNL that the tender conditions are in favour of a few manufacturers and that could lead to a cartel formation.
BSNL rider
There are 14-15 optical fibre cable manufacturers in India and only two-three vendors would have been eligible according to the earlier conditions which restricted competition. The rest of the companies that have been regularly participating and supplying OFC to BSNL and other operators would have been ineligible to bid.
For example, BSNL had insisted that only listed companies having their own manufacturing facility in the country can bid for the project. This practically left out all the international vendors such as Corning and DuPont from the bidding process. Even among the Indian cable companies, there are only three-four which are listed, including Sterlite.
Spectrum release
The OFC network is being laid by BSNL on behalf of the defence forces as part of the agreement between the Department of Telecom and the Ministry of Defence. The network is being rolled out so that the Defence forces can vacate the spectrum for use by mobile operators.
The Defence Ministry had agreed to release spectrum as and when certain milestones were achieved in rolling out the OFC network. Completing the tendering process by BSNL is one of the milestones set under the agreement.
The tender for procuring the OFC is, therefore, very crucial because any controversy could also delay vacation of spectrum.
BSNL will open the bids on May 21, which is also the last day for submitting applications.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/08/stories/2010050851530500.htm
New tender allows unlisted firms also to bid for Rs 10,000-cr deal.
New Delhi, May 7 Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd has diluted the eligibility conditions for supplying optical fibre cables for the Rs 10,000-crore Defence network project.
The PSU has floated a new tender which allows even unlisted cable suppliers to bid for the contract. In the earlier tender, BSNL had made it mandatory for the bidders to be listed entities, which disqualified most of the cable suppliers in the country.
BSNL has also stipulated that companies which have rolled out 15,000 km to telecom operators in the last two fiscal years will be eligible. It was 20,000 km in the earlier tender.
The move comes after some companies termed the conditions stipulated in the earlier tender as 'tough'. Optical fibre cable suppliers, including Himachal Futuristic Communications Ltd and Paramount Cables, had written to BSNL seeking a review of the eligibility conditions set by the PSU. The companies had told BSNL that the tender conditions are in favour of a few manufacturers and that could lead to a cartel formation.
BSNL rider
There are 14-15 optical fibre cable manufacturers in India and only two-three vendors would have been eligible according to the earlier conditions which restricted competition. The rest of the companies that have been regularly participating and supplying OFC to BSNL and other operators would have been ineligible to bid.
For example, BSNL had insisted that only listed companies having their own manufacturing facility in the country can bid for the project. This practically left out all the international vendors such as Corning and DuPont from the bidding process. Even among the Indian cable companies, there are only three-four which are listed, including Sterlite.
Spectrum release
The OFC network is being laid by BSNL on behalf of the defence forces as part of the agreement between the Department of Telecom and the Ministry of Defence. The network is being rolled out so that the Defence forces can vacate the spectrum for use by mobile operators.
The Defence Ministry had agreed to release spectrum as and when certain milestones were achieved in rolling out the OFC network. Completing the tendering process by BSNL is one of the milestones set under the agreement.
The tender for procuring the OFC is, therefore, very crucial because any controversy could also delay vacation of spectrum.
BSNL will open the bids on May 21, which is also the last day for submitting applications.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/08/stories/2010050851530500.htm
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Please tell what's the use of these microlite aircrafts in our armed forces?
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Less than 1% of Indian ammunition is precision guided
During the Vietnam war (1955-1975), Americans flew over 800 sorties and lost 10 aircraft in trying to destory the Thanh Hoa bridge but could do only peripheral damage which was quickly repaired. This changed when in 1972, the Americans came back with 12 Phantoms of which 8 were carrying laser guided bombs and successfully destroyed the bridge. According to P.G. Gillespie, in America's Rolling Thunder campaign (Vietnam 1965-68), F-105s with conventional munitions achieved an average accuracy of about 450 feet with only 6% direct hits.
Pointing to this background on May 10 at CII's 3rd International Seminar on Artillery Technology, Brig (Retd) Gurmeet Kanwal, Director, Centre for Land Warfare Studies pointed out that the U.S. has since invested in precision guided munitions (PGMs) and so they today represent 80% of munitions used in war. Defense update states that in Operation Iraqi Freedom which started in 2003 "Around 66% of US munitions and up to 85% of RAF munitions used during OIF were precision guided, either by Global Positioning Systems (GPS) or by laser or both. This demonstrates a huge leap forward in capability since the 1991 conflict, when the proportion of precision guided munitions was around 30% of US and 18% of RAF weapons were guided." In an earlier presentation, General V.K. Singh, Chief of the Army Staff, PVSM, AVSM, YSM, ADC said that "Gone are the days when during an artillery attack, the safest place to be was at the target."
Given the increasing importance of artillery Brig. Kanwal said that it is shocking to note that less than 1% of India's munition stockpile is precision guided. He said that despite India's decisive victory in Kargil 1999 being attributed, in part, to Indian artillery superiority with the Bofors guns, the Indian Army has failed to modernise its artillery regiments. While hinting at the DPP 2008 as being part of the blame, people 8ak spoke to said that it is also the fault of the Indian army. If it was purely a Ministry of Defence (MoD) and procurement process issue, why is it that the Navy is constantly rolling out new ships with the latest technologies when it has to operate under the same conditions?
Brig. Kanwal stated that picking up the slack in artillery modernization is urgent because according to him there is an 80-90% probability that India's next war will be in the mountains and a 60-70% probability that it will remain restricted to the mountains. Explaining this he said that deep strikes in to India's neighbouring territories would risk flying over (secret) nuclear installations which would initiate a retaliation that would escalate the war to a level undesirable to either country.
Totalling US$8 billion, India has possibly the largest military modernisation program in the world.
2 presenters at the conference quoted Napoleon, "God fights on the side with the best artillery"
Source
During the Vietnam war (1955-1975), Americans flew over 800 sorties and lost 10 aircraft in trying to destory the Thanh Hoa bridge but could do only peripheral damage which was quickly repaired. This changed when in 1972, the Americans came back with 12 Phantoms of which 8 were carrying laser guided bombs and successfully destroyed the bridge. According to P.G. Gillespie, in America's Rolling Thunder campaign (Vietnam 1965-68), F-105s with conventional munitions achieved an average accuracy of about 450 feet with only 6% direct hits.
Pointing to this background on May 10 at CII's 3rd International Seminar on Artillery Technology, Brig (Retd) Gurmeet Kanwal, Director, Centre for Land Warfare Studies pointed out that the U.S. has since invested in precision guided munitions (PGMs) and so they today represent 80% of munitions used in war. Defense update states that in Operation Iraqi Freedom which started in 2003 "Around 66% of US munitions and up to 85% of RAF munitions used during OIF were precision guided, either by Global Positioning Systems (GPS) or by laser or both. This demonstrates a huge leap forward in capability since the 1991 conflict, when the proportion of precision guided munitions was around 30% of US and 18% of RAF weapons were guided." In an earlier presentation, General V.K. Singh, Chief of the Army Staff, PVSM, AVSM, YSM, ADC said that "Gone are the days when during an artillery attack, the safest place to be was at the target."
Given the increasing importance of artillery Brig. Kanwal said that it is shocking to note that less than 1% of India's munition stockpile is precision guided. He said that despite India's decisive victory in Kargil 1999 being attributed, in part, to Indian artillery superiority with the Bofors guns, the Indian Army has failed to modernise its artillery regiments. While hinting at the DPP 2008 as being part of the blame, people 8ak spoke to said that it is also the fault of the Indian army. If it was purely a Ministry of Defence (MoD) and procurement process issue, why is it that the Navy is constantly rolling out new ships with the latest technologies when it has to operate under the same conditions?
Brig. Kanwal stated that picking up the slack in artillery modernization is urgent because according to him there is an 80-90% probability that India's next war will be in the mountains and a 60-70% probability that it will remain restricted to the mountains. Explaining this he said that deep strikes in to India's neighbouring territories would risk flying over (secret) nuclear installations which would initiate a retaliation that would escalate the war to a level undesirable to either country.
Totalling US$8 billion, India has possibly the largest military modernisation program in the world.
2 presenters at the conference quoted Napoleon, "God fights on the side with the best artillery"
Source
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Largest in the world? $8 billion in procurement is just a drop in the bucket to the top military spenders. France spends three times that. US spends 20 times that.
Anyway... IAF does need more PGMs, that is an easy given. The easy way used to be to purchase a bunch of second hand Paveway bombs, but there are so many choices out there now. India can choose from MBDA, Tactical Missile Corp, Raytheon, and a bunch of other smaller vendors. Looking at Indian procurement it would stand to reason they would be buying Russian KABs but at less than 1% it doesn't look they have next to any. I don't recall if the Popeyes ever entered service. OFB needs to license produce a general purpose bomb available to all of their fighters, or develop one. It isn't hard to make an LGB these days, or even an electro-optical... even Iran has one of those.
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