Give Kashmir to Pakistan

[Filtercoffee]

As a proud Indian it is hard to accept that Tejas is just a paper plane. A hangar queen. On the other hand JF-17 Thunder is the real deal. Doing its job. Being produced in large numbers that HAL can only dream of.

JF - 17 is a MIG design rejected by the Russian air force, sold with rights to the Chinese and intentinally given to PAC.

 

[republic_roi97]

JF - 17 is a MIG design rejected by the Russian air force, sold with rights to the Chinese and intentinally given to PAC.

Which is now showing why it was rejected by Russians earlier. Who'd want a Jihadi Fighter 17 that at its best crashes like no other.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

India is unable to take back PoK. Why do you think that is? Is it because India is too weak or too scared? Just wondering.

No matter how strong country is, annexing territories out of control is very difficult,
India won't have to face Pakistan in that case but UN forces. Do you know why Russia & China are still struggling with such problems?

 

[Dark Lord]

JF - 17 is a MIG design rejected by the Russian air force, sold with rights to the Chinese and intentinally given to PAC.

We are sadly buying SECOND HAND planes from small countries. Soon our airforce will be SECOND HAND AIRFORCE .So JF-17 is lot better than that.

 

[Filtercoffee]

We are sadly buying SECOND HAND planes from small countries. Soon our airforce will be SECOND HAND AIRFORCE .So JF-17 is lot better than that.

My point here is the actuals of series. So the LCA is timed perfectly.

 

[tharun]

We are sadly buying SECOND HAND planes from small countries. Soon our airforce will be SECOND HAND AIRFORCE .So JF-17 is lot better than that.

Who said we are buying? Second hand airfoce seriously..how many second hand planes we bought till now? it's just a news............

 

[Mikesingh]

But isn't kashmir issue drain on Indian resources? How much money we have to keep spending on Kashmir to keep it under control?

An average of Rs 50,000 crores are being spent every year on these thankless separatist bastards and stone pelters in Kashmir which includes subsidies, aid, grants, infra etc. That's more than the entire defence budget of Porkistan!! And these turds want to join the Land of the Pure?

They'll starve to death!

 

[Filtercoffee]

An average of Rs 50,000 crores are being spent every year on these thankless separatist bastards and stone pelters in Kashmir which includes subsidies, aid, grants, infra etc. That's more than the entire defence budget of Porkistan!! And these turds want to join the Land of the Pure?

They'll starve to death!

I wonder why they were asked to crave for Kashmir in the first place? I can only feel sorry for the lot where their ancestors were called and plundered psychologically and today you have a great storm trooper army who lost the will to live. That is the difference.

 

[Mikesingh]

I wonder why they were asked to crave for Kashmir in the first place?

Water! If the Porks have Kashmir, they control the waters of all the rivers flowing into Pak from J&K. They care a damn for the Kashmiris. They are just a tool for Pak machinations of winning the water war against India. The Kashmiris are just a means to an end. Pawns in the chess game.

And these frikkin Kashmiris of the 5 districts of the Valley who are creating problems, (out of 22 in J&K) seem unaware that the Porkis are taking them for a ride. Are the millions of rupees the Porks are spending trying to spread the Sunni Wahabi culture in Kashmir to wrest it from India going to put more food on the table for the poverty stricken Pakis, 40% of whom are living in abject poverty?

Apna ghar tho yeh morons sambhal nahi sakthey aur Kasmir leney chaley! Lol! Why didn't Allah give them human brains?

 

[Filtercoffee]

Water! If the Porks have Kashmir, they control the waters of all the rivers flowing into Pak from J&K. They care a damn for the Kashmiris. They are just a tool for Pak machinations of winning the water war. The Kashmiris are just a means to an end. Pawns in the chess game.

Water can be tokened from the sea as well, provided with tech by yours truly in the middle East. No Kashmir to Pakistan. This is for the Two Field Marshals of the Indian Army.

 

[republic_roi97]

We are sadly buying SECOND HAND planes from small countries. Soon our airforce will be SECOND HAND AIRFORCE .So JF-17 is lot better than that.

We are sadly buying SECOND HAND planes from small countries. Soon our airforce will be SECOND HAND AIRFORCE .So JF-17 is lot better than that.

Hence proved, you are a spammer, not an inch of true fact that you have vomited over here. My request goes out to the mods, outrightly ban this fake BS spammer.

 

[ashdoc]

Water! If the Porks have Kashmir, they control the waters of all the rivers flowing into Pak from J&K. They care a damn for the Kashmiris. They are just a tool for Pak machinations of winning the water war against India. The Kashmiris are just a means to an end. Pawns in the chess game.

And these frikkin Kashmiris of the 5 districts of the Valley who are creating problems, (out of 22 in J&K) seem unaware that the Porkis are taking them for a ride. Is the Sunni Wahabi culture they are trying to spread in Kashmir to wrest it from India going to put more food on the table for the poverty stricken Pakis, 40% who are living in abject poverty?

Apna ghar tho yeh morons sambhal nahi sakthey aur Kasmir leney chaley! Lol! Why didn't Allah give them human brains?

Brain dead jehadis are beyond understanding this logic . All they care about is the 72 whores waiting for them .

 

[Indx TechStyle]

4 times? Please elaborate your statement. We only had one full scale war with pak on western front in 1965 and the results where even. Remember Dwarka?

War was started for annexing Kashmir from India and ended up celebrating defending Lahore after UN intervention!

Full scale war? Full scale war is never fought between a full scale country and fractional scale ideological entity.

On everything. First we have less nukes than Pak.

Not really, we produce 7 times more centrifuges than Pakistan, enough to build around a 1,000,
If India diverts most of it's output to civil nuclear power doesn't mean that it necessarily will always.

We don't have any successful indigenous weapons program. Everything is imported.

Not really, India's homegrown weapon share is 40% by cost and 60% in numbers, still expanding & there's a reason why weapon exports jumped by 6 times in 2 years.

Quantity doesn't equal quality.

Pakistan is worse in that case.
It is inducting the weapons like JFT & small corvettes of old class which India is retiring these days.

Pak navy isn't alone. China is with them.

Chinese doctrine doesn't allow sacrifice of own soldiers in a full scale war unless it's to protect Chinese sovereignty.

They have newer JF-17 Thunder and that too in big numbers.

This newer JFT specifications were somewhat of IAF in 90s.

Also don't forget paki F16.

This shows paki standard, threatening India with an outdated bird, seriously, you know why India rejected F-16?

Navigation system and surveillance are different. Don't forget Pak is part of Chinese beidu program.

Not really, neither China has enough empty slots to assist someone in a war when their own requirement isn't fulfilled, nor they can provide you reconnaissance.

Source?

We do have no source Pakistan having stimulator & shocker tunnels, ion thrusters, independent research in fusion, thorium based reactors, fast breeder reactors, designs as that of IPWR or third generation nuclear reactors.

This is enough reason to believe.

We know Pakistanis didn't test Plutonium warheads which are needed for miniaturization rather they tested HEU implosion type warheads to be replicated in plutonium type pit as New Labs facility at PINSTECH only came online.in may 1998 . So Pakistanis have not tested a Plutonium spherical implosion device but a Linear implosion device.

This device upon detonation the high explosive will drive the pusher plate into the tamper, which will then begin linear implosion of the fissile mass which will not only compress the plutonium but will push it inward and away from the control rods the same time, the lip on the outside of each control rod will "catch" a small portion of the force from the explosive.

Now these devices will not give more than 10% efficiency without testingwhich Pakistan has not , so Pakistan's triad will not be useful for countervalue targeting .

We still don't have a proper cruise missile.

Final test of MANIK turbofan is around the corner, you'll experience the speed of light after that in UAV's & cruise.
The second LRCM with a 6-7kN afterburning turbofan & range of 3,000 kms.
Anyway, cruise missile fits as a tactical weapon in India's doctrine. It's not a strategic game changer.

Pak is most successful with cruise missiles.

Assembling NPO Saturn engines with fuselages and making low range cruisers isn't a success
Successful cruise missiles? India has more CIWS than Pakistan has cruise missiles. It's easier to shoot down a subsonic cruising object than a ballistic one in fact.

How we are sophisticated. Both countries have similar ballistic missiles.

How they are similar? Pakistan still uses liquid fuel.

When India has moved to gyro, Pakistan still relies on unreliable retro thrusters.
Do you have QBM? No,
ICBM? No
SLBM? No
ShLBM? No
High precision intermediate ballistic missile? No
Agni 3 is world's most accurate operational IRBM with a CEP of 40 metres.

Pak too is building new Submarines with help from China.

Again issue of standards, which systems these subs employ?
How many can Pak afford.

ONLY ADVANTAGE WE HAVE OVER PAK IS NUMBER OF TROOPS BUT LIKE I SAID ABOVE QUANTITY DOESN'T EQUAL QUALITY.

Intellectual property score to global hunger index explains what's the quality of Paki soldiers.

@pmaitra
I respect you, you're humble, fair and that's why a mod but why the hell you let this thread exist still?

Not lock it but delete it. We don't need others' agenda on Kashmir to be run.

 

[captscooby81]

because he didn't had human brain in the first place then where will he be able to give these morons ....:biggrin2:

Water!

Apna ghar tho yeh morons sambhal nahi sakthey aur Kasmir leney chaley! Lol! Why didn't Allah give them human brains?

 

[Filtercoffee]

Brain dead jehadis are beyond understanding this logic . All they care about is the 72 whores waiting for them .

They get pussy here too. Its not that. Feeling sorry for themselves is what their DNA is so they get the means to a pathetic end, thats their high. If we stop that high they won't even do the needful of ending themselves by asking for means to do so. They will do it peacfully. Sad that they expect heaven where the likes will not be allowed.

 

[Amrk]

We are sadly buying SECOND HAND planes from small countries. Soon our airforce will be SECOND HAND AIRFORCE .So JF-17 is lot better than that.

Abey, Hira Mandi ke product, it is obvious that you are using a VPN but everyone knows what you are, do you like getting abused, do pakis have no shame? Have you all become turdlickers?
Stupid question, of course you like gobbling sh*it, better you go to some chinese forum, we don't want inbred retards like you here.

 

[Filtercoffee]

And by the way people survive after a nuclear attack. If that is motivation then I am happy that we have such great thinkers as adversaries.

 

[Villager]

Sir I am a patriotic Indian not a pakistani. I am stating the fact that our military is incapable of taking POK back. If you feel otherwise please tell me your facts that why we have upper hand on Pakistan.

Jai Hind

Politicians like butcher of Gujarat Modi are willing to take back POK but the hard and sad truth is our armed force is not upto the task. Our equipment is bagged from other countries. Our economy is weak. Our Nuke arsenal is lower than Pak. On ground this can't be done.

If you are convinced that we can't take back PoK, we can't keep AP against Chinkies, then why do you keep asking others, " Hey I am a patriotic circumcised Indian, so tell me how can we get back PoK "?

Why don't you share your views on how to take it back? Or go back to sleep with your hard facts.

You claim to be full of Hard facts on evils of Hinduism, yet you don't share some hard facts of your own Islam. Surely if you know so much about Hinduism, you would know all about Islam. Make a thread on Islam, explain the people where it is misunderstood by members of this forum.

 

[Dark Lord]

War was started for annexing Kashmir from India and ended up celebrating defending Lahore after UN intervention!

Full scale war? Full scale war is never fought between a full scale country and fractional scale ideological entity.

Not really, we produce 7 times more centrifuges than Pakistan, enough to build around a 1,000,
If India diverts most of it's output to civil nuclear power doesn't mean that it necessarily will always.

Not really, India's homegrown weapon share is 40% by cost and 60% in numbers, still expanding & there's a reason why weapon exports jumped by 6 times in 2 years.

Pakistan is worse in that case.
It is inducting the weapons like JFT & small corvettes of old class which India is retiring these days.

Chinese doctrine doesn't allow sacrifice of own soldiers in a full scale war unless it's to protect Chinese sovereignty.

This newer JFT specifications were somewhat of IAF in 90s.

This shows paki standard, threatening India with an outdated bird, seriously, you know why India rejected F-16?

Not really, neither China has enough empty slots to assist someone in a war when their own requirement isn't fulfilled, nor they can provide you reconnaissance.

We do have no source Pakistan having stimulator & shocker tunnels, ion thrusters, independent research in fusion, thorium based reactors, fast breeder reactors, designs as that of IPWR or third generation nuclear reactors.

This is enough reason to believe.

We know Pakistanis didn't test Plutonium warheads which are needed for miniaturization rather they tested HEU implosion type warheads to be replicated in plutonium type pit as New Labs facility at PINSTECH only came online.in may 1998 . So Pakistanis have not tested a Plutonium spherical implosion device but a Linear implosion device.

This device upon detonation the high explosive will drive the pusher plate into the tamper, which will then begin linear implosion of the fissile mass which will not only compress the plutonium but will push it inward and away from the control rods the same time, the lip on the outside of each control rod will "catch" a small portion of the force from the explosive.

Now these devices will not give more than 10% efficiency without testingwhich Pakistan has not , so Pakistan's triad will not be useful for countervalue targeting .

Final test of MANIK turbofan is around the corner, you'll experience the speed of light after that in UAV's & cruise.
The second LRCM with a 6-7kN afterburning turbofan & range of 3,000 kms.
Anyway, cruise missile fits as a tactical weapon in India's doctrine. It's not a strategic game changer.

Assembling NPO Saturn engines with fuselages and making low range cruisers isn't a success
Successful cruise missiles? India has more CIWS than Pakistan has cruise missiles. It's easier to shoot down a subsonic cruising object than a ballistic one in fact.

How they are similar? Pakistan still uses liquid fuel.

When India has moved to gyro, Pakistan still relies on unreliable retro thrusters.
Do you have QBM? No,
ICBM? No
SLBM? No
ShLBM? No
High precision intermediate ballistic missile? No
Agni 3 is world's most accurate operational IRBM with a CEP of 40 metres.

Again issue of standards, which systems these subs employ?
How many can Pak afford.

Intellectual property score to global hunger index explains what's the quality of Paki soldiers.

@pmaitra
I respect you, you're humble, fair and that's why a mod but why the hell you let this thread exist still?

Not lock it but delete it. We don't need others' agenda on Kashmir to be run.

I am surprised by your lack of knowledge in Nukes. Don't you have access to news or just simple google.

Pakistan is the fastest growing nuke power in the world. By 2020 Pak will be No 3 nuke power country in the world. Only behind US and Russia. We indians are still living in 90's.
In 1998 pak tested far superior nukes than India. Everyone was surprised by Pakistani nuclear capabilities Including USA. Out Indian tests war a major fail. Our gov claimed hydrogen bomb but in reality it was just 23KT failed Nuclear bomb. Only one Indian test out of six was a success. Everything else failed.

Today Pak has more nukes then India this is a hard fact.

Pakistan has mastered Nuke power and even made miniature nukes on tactical warheads. Where is our Indian tactical nukes? Indian reactors are old and not sufficient. Pak is sitting on a massive stockpile of uranium.

That implosion type nuke you mention is what India used in Pokhran. Do you know that India didn't have plutonium so had to use uranium for nukes. India still doesn't have access to plutonium and hence India has failed miniaturizing Nukes. Hence no small tactical nukes.

Pakistani nuke and missile program is one of the best in the world. Even USA and Israel is afraid of Pakistani nukes. This is a hard fact.

I DARE YOU, DOUBLE DARE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG. COME ON TRY IT. LOL...

I am a proud Indian but when it comes to nuke India can't even compete with Pak. Paki nukes are way way way way better than India.

 

[A chauhan]

Endless stupidity !! Why are we trying to educate a Madarasa educated kid who is still searching for common sense and general knowledge regarding religions, countries and defence ?Do we intend to teach abcd... to kids ?


Paki and Madarsa logic are apparent in someone's posts which started after Jihadis' got financial support through cashless means in Kashmir ! This is a means of propaganda.