Your Dream IAF composition 2025 !

[Singh]

As the title suggests: What would be your dream composition of IAF in the year 2025 ?

 

[Pulkit]

As the title suggests: What would be your dream composition of IAF in the year 2025 ?

by 2025 it should be:

270+ Su 30 MKI
36 Rafale
~50 Mirage
100 SEPECAT Jaguar
~60 Mig 29
80+ Tejas Mk1
100+ Tejas MK2(More in production)
90+ FGFA
30+ Apache
70+ Antonov An-32 Cline
15 C-17 Globemaster
11 C-130J Super Hercules
6 Boeing 737
60+ Dornier Do 228
8+ Beriev A-50 Phalcon
10+ EMB-145 AEWCS
50+ HAL Rudra
80+ HAL Light Combat Helicopter
20+ Boeing CH-47 Chinook
100+ HAL Dhruv


Then AMCA about to enter production , Tejas MK2 and FGFA in production.

Not sure which transport aircrafts will be added and how many.

If I miss any please let me know.

 

[sob]

You have missed out very crucial mid air refuelers

 

[Pulkit]

You have missed out very crucial mid air refuelers

we are operating 7 Ilyushin Il-78 as of now not sure which one are we planning or how long are we planning to use them....

 

[tarunraju]

• >320+ Su-30MKI with 20% undergoing upgrades
• At least 96 Dasault Rafale inducted, orders placed for another 96~128
• At least 112 Tejas MK2 manufactured
• Tejas MK1 fleet converted as trainers and given to the various IAF flight and air-warfare academies (Yelahanka, Dundigul, Hakimpet, etc.), to augment the 90 HAWKs
• 54 MiG-29, either undergoing upgrades, or being modified to MiG-29K, and transferred to the Navy for IAC-1. They're going to squeeze another decade out of Viraat just for the heck of operating >2 ACs (IOR psy-ops), which means the Navy will need aircraft.
• 48 Mirage-2000-5 MK2
• At least 96 Jaguars
• 8~16 5th gen aircraft
• 12~16 Su-34 bomber-config, in case we start bombing Paki ground targets in the wake of a 26/11-esque incident. It never hurts to have an agile supersonic-capable bomber.
• 12~16 big ground-attack jets such as the A10. US is decommissioning its A10 "Warthog" fleet, and if we could land ourselves a sweet refurbish-purchase deal, it could be awesome
• 16~24 C17-Globemasters
• 12~16 C130J
• 9~12 large (Phalcon) AWACS aircraft
• 12~16 mid-air refuellers, start retrofitting the Il-78 fleet
• 90~110 LCH
• 90 AH-64D
• 120 Mi-17
• 200-ish Dhruv
• 32 CH-47
• 150 Chetak

 

[Blackwater]

• >320+ Su-30MKI with 20% undergoing upgrades
• At least 96 Dasault Rafale inducted, orders placed for another 96~128
• At least 112 Tejas MK2 manufactured
• Tejas MK1 fleet converted as trainers and given to the various IAF flight and air-warfare academies (Yelahanka, Dundigul, Hakimpet, etc.), to augment the 90 HAWKs
• 54 MiG-29, either undergoing upgrades, or being modified to MiG-29K, and transferred to the Navy for IAC-1. They're going to squeeze another decade out of Viraat just for the heck of operating >2 ACs (IOR psy-ops), which means the Navy will need aircraft.
• 48 Mirage-2000-5 MK2
• At least 96 Jaguars
• 8~16 5th gen aircraft
• 12~16 Su-34 bomber-config, in case we start bombing Paki ground targets in the wake of a 26/11-esque incident. It never hurts to have an agile supersonic-capable bomber.
• 12~16 big ground-attack jets such as the A10. US is decommissioning its A10 "Warthog" fleet, and if we could land ourselves a sweet refurbish-purchase deal, it could be awesome
• 16~24 C17-Globemasters
• 12~16 C130J
• 9~12 large (Phalcon) AWACS aircraft
• 12~16 mid-air refuellers, start retrofitting the Il-78 fleet
• 90~110 LCH
• 90 AH-64D
• 120 Mi-17
• 200-ish Dhruv
• 32 CH-47
• 150 Chetak

i have reservations on both availabilty

 

[Kharavela]

by 2025 it should be:

270+ Su 30 MKI
36 Rafale
~50 Mirage
100 SEPECAT Jaguar
~60 Mig 29
80+ Tejas Mk1
100+ Tejas MK2(More in production)
90+ FGFA
30+ Apache
70+ Antonov An-32 Cline
15 C-17 Globemaster
11 C-130J Super Hercules
6 Boeing 737
60+ Dornier Do 228
8+ Beriev A-50 Phalcon
10+ EMB-145 AEWCS
50+ HAL Rudra
80+ HAL Light Combat Helicopter
20+ Boeing CH-47 Chinook
100+ HAL Dhruv


Then AMCA about to enter production , Tejas MK2 and FGFA in production.

Not sure which transport aircrafts will be added and how many.

If I miss any please let me know.

You have listed out approx number of aircrafts IAF would actually have in 2025. The title of the thread is "Dream Composition".

My choice would be (excluding those which IAF could not have for any reason):

1) LCA Tejas Mk2 => 40 squadrons or 800+
2) Su 30 MKI upgraded to Super Sukhoi => 20 squadrons or 400+
3) FGFA => 10 squadrons or 200+
4) LCA Tejas Mk1 (as Lead-In Fighter Trainer) => 5 squadrons or 100+
5) AWACS, AEWCS, Mid-Air Refuelers => As necessary for Operation
6) Helicopters (LCH, Rudra, Dhruv, Apache, Chinook, Mi-28 etc) => 400+ or even more as required
7) UCAV (AURA, Rustom 2 or any other Skat/Neuron types) => 50 squadrons or 1000+

 

[maomao]

3000 F-22s

1000 Su-34s

1000 Apaches Longbows

100 C-17 Globemasters

500 C-130J Super Hercules

100 AWACS

500 Chinooks

500 Light Helicopters

Latest versions for all the above or next in the series!!

The above list is more than anyone to take on!!

 

[Pulkit]

You have listed out approx number of aircrafts IAF would actually have in 2025. The title of the thread is "Dream Composition".

My choice would be (excluding those which IAF could not have for any reason):

1) LCA Tejas Mk2 => 40 squadrons or 800+
2) Su 30 MKI upgraded to Super Sukhoi => 20 squadrons or 400+
3) FGFA => 10 squadrons or 200+
4) LCA Tejas Mk1 (as Lead-In Fighter Trainer) => 5 squadrons or 100+
5) AWACS, AEWCS, Mid-Air Refuelers => As necessary for Operation
6) Helicopters (LCH, Rudra, Dhruv, Apache, Chinook, Mi-28 etc) => 400+ or even more as required
7) UCAV (AURA, Rustom 2 or any other Skat/Neuron types) => 50 squadrons or 1000+

Now thats what we will call a DREAM.
But i will be saying it is a little not possible.

FGFA 200+ Tejas MK2 800+ is unreasonable even with multiple assembly lines.

Rest U have same composition as i have
I will request you to dream big but realistic.

 

[WMD]

People are talking abt buying more C-130J-30 but nobody is seems to consider the UAC/HAL Il-214.:why:

 

[smestarz]

IF you are really saying DREAM and money is no option..
200 B-2
300 F-22
300 PAKFA
And 200 odd X-47 just in case.

My list about warplanes is Done

 

[From Realm of D&T]

210 SU 30 MKIs

126 Rafales

60 Super MKIs

12 Tu 22 M Bombers

120 LCAs

60 Mig 29ks

 

[pankaj nema]

As the title suggests: What would be your dream composition of IAF in the year 2025 ?

With the Rafale dream BROKEN ; what is the point in dreaming

I am reminded of couple of lines from a HIndi song

Yeh to Sikandar ne bhi nahin tha socha

Aane se pehle khushi laut jaayegi

 

[Srinivas_K]

400 Su 30 MKI's including super sukhois and sukhois configured with Brahmos missiles

150 Rafales

300 LCA mark 1 and mark 2

200 AMCA's

200 PAK FA/FGFA

100 mig 29's

Drones:

20 global Hawks

60 predators

Awacs:

30 Phalcon or similar kind of Awacs

30 DRDO awacs

air to air refuellers: 30

Helicopters:

100 Apaches

300 HAL LCH

500 ALH

500 Mi 8 or similar kind for troop transport



Naval:

100 Naval mig 29's

300 Naval AMCA's

50 sea hawk helicopters

20 ka 31

25 p 8i neptune

Troop transport:

30 c 17's

40 C130 's

10 Chinooks

10 V22 Ospreys

25 US 2

Bombers:

30 Tu 22 or similar

15 B2

20 stealth Bombers
1000 naval ALH for coast gaurd

 

[Lone Ranger]

15 Squadron of Super SU 30 mki with Brahmos ng/m ( with IAF improving its mantainence to be available at-least 70% at any time).

4 Squadron of PAKFA.

5 Squadrons of Jaguar fully upgraded to Darin 3 with Engine refit.

3 Squadron of LCA mk1 and 4 Squadron of LCA mk2

5 Squadron of Rafale with Brahmos ng/Nirbhaya integrated .

3 Squadron of Mirage 2k Upgraded.

3 Squadron of mig 29 Upgraded.

Atleast 15 AEW&C (Drdo and imported mix)

Atleast 15 refuellers.

30-40 Apache Long bows.

70 HAL LCH (With improved radar and ew suite than current config)

Excluding transport Aircraft from current list , navy and army aviation numbers are excluded too.

 

[Yusuf]

Just buy 65 squadrons of LCA.

 

[Virendra]

I think laser weapons would be a good addition. If all or most of the planes are solar powered, all the better

 

[Kharavela]

Just buy 65 squadrons of LCA.

Yes.......... Agreed, but I propose a substitution of minimum 15 squadrons of AMCA & addition of 25 squadrons of AURA.

50 squadrons => LCA Tejas
15 squadrons => AMCA
25 squadrons => AURA

 

[archie]

Its Dream team.. Successive Govt Fast tracks AMCA

224 MK2 in service
30 AMCA inservice with 200 on order
150 FGFA
Inhouse nexgen aircraft in final stages of design
Inhouse Trasport(with options of tanker) aircraft on Initial stages of testing
And all the other aircraft that we currently have - retiree

Oh the 100+MK1 Becomes trainers