Indian army $10-bn combat vehicle order!!!
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Norway buys rubber tracks for CV90 Afghan operations
February 10, 2011
Two Norwegian Army CV9030 infantry fighting vehicles have been using rubber tracks in northern Afghanistan since December.
The 28-tonne BAE Systems vehicles are the heaviest to have used them on operations.
The rubber track system is jointly developed by Soucy International in Quebec, Canada and BAE Systems in Sweden: Soucy has designed and produced the tracks and BAE Systems has qualified the system in full-scale trials.
The tracks reduce vehicle weight by more than one tonne compared with conventional steel tracks. They also cut noise by a massive 10dB and vibration levels by 65 percent.
"The reduced vibration levels are increasing the life expectancy of electronics, optronics and ammunition, which will significantly reduce vehicle running costs," said CV90 platform manager Dan Lindell. "The tracks also improve stealth, reduce crew fatigue and increase mobility in many conditions, such as on snow and ice."
Major Per Rune Hansen is CV90 fleet manager for the Norwegian Defence Logistics Organisation. He commented: "Our vehicle crews were a little sceptical of the rubber tracks at first, but once they used them, they became big fans and really appreciate the reduced vibration and quieter operation."
Noise and vibration from steel tracks are coming under increasing scrutiny because of ever-tightening health and safety legislation across the world.
"Health and Safety is another reason we are pushing the limits of rubber track technology'" says Lindell. "There have been reservations about their robustness on heavier vehicles, but rubber track performance and track life is increasing all the time, which is why Norway has bought the tracks."
BAE Systems technical and durability tests on a CV90 over several years weighing 28,000 kg gave good results, with a track life comparable with conventional steel tracks. Trials by the Norwegian Army in late 2010 were so positive that the two vehicles were sent to Afghanistan before the planned schedule was completed.
CV90 trials at 35 tonnes will take place through 2011. The increasing vehicle weights possible with rubber tracks are the result of advances in rubber track technology and vehicle configuration. Also planned for early 2011 are mine blast trials to assess the effect of blast and fragments on the tracks.
Dan Lindell concluded: "BAE Systems and Soucy have a product which gives significant advantages and which can be transferred to other vehicle fleets. We are continuing to invest in CV90 to keep it at the forefront of its class.
BAE Systems already works with Soucy on rubber tracks for several of its lighter-weight armoured vehicles, including the go-anywhere BvS10 and the M113 armoured personnel carrier which Norway has deployed with rubber tracks in Afghanistan. The joint development with Soucy on rubber tracks for CV90 began as part of BAE Systems' bid for the Canadian Close Combat Vehicle programme.
Source: BAE Systems
http://http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/landwarfareintl/norway-buys-rubber-tracks-for-cv90-afghan-operations/8304/
February 10, 2011
Two Norwegian Army CV9030 infantry fighting vehicles have been using rubber tracks in northern Afghanistan since December.
The 28-tonne BAE Systems vehicles are the heaviest to have used them on operations.
The rubber track system is jointly developed by Soucy International in Quebec, Canada and BAE Systems in Sweden: Soucy has designed and produced the tracks and BAE Systems has qualified the system in full-scale trials.
The tracks reduce vehicle weight by more than one tonne compared with conventional steel tracks. They also cut noise by a massive 10dB and vibration levels by 65 percent.
"The reduced vibration levels are increasing the life expectancy of electronics, optronics and ammunition, which will significantly reduce vehicle running costs," said CV90 platform manager Dan Lindell. "The tracks also improve stealth, reduce crew fatigue and increase mobility in many conditions, such as on snow and ice."
Major Per Rune Hansen is CV90 fleet manager for the Norwegian Defence Logistics Organisation. He commented: "Our vehicle crews were a little sceptical of the rubber tracks at first, but once they used them, they became big fans and really appreciate the reduced vibration and quieter operation."
Noise and vibration from steel tracks are coming under increasing scrutiny because of ever-tightening health and safety legislation across the world.
"Health and Safety is another reason we are pushing the limits of rubber track technology'" says Lindell. "There have been reservations about their robustness on heavier vehicles, but rubber track performance and track life is increasing all the time, which is why Norway has bought the tracks."
BAE Systems technical and durability tests on a CV90 over several years weighing 28,000 kg gave good results, with a track life comparable with conventional steel tracks. Trials by the Norwegian Army in late 2010 were so positive that the two vehicles were sent to Afghanistan before the planned schedule was completed.
CV90 trials at 35 tonnes will take place through 2011. The increasing vehicle weights possible with rubber tracks are the result of advances in rubber track technology and vehicle configuration. Also planned for early 2011 are mine blast trials to assess the effect of blast and fragments on the tracks.
Dan Lindell concluded: "BAE Systems and Soucy have a product which gives significant advantages and which can be transferred to other vehicle fleets. We are continuing to invest in CV90 to keep it at the forefront of its class.
BAE Systems already works with Soucy on rubber tracks for several of its lighter-weight armoured vehicles, including the go-anywhere BvS10 and the M113 armoured personnel carrier which Norway has deployed with rubber tracks in Afghanistan. The joint development with Soucy on rubber tracks for CV90 began as part of BAE Systems' bid for the Canadian Close Combat Vehicle programme.
Source: BAE Systems
http://http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/landwarfareintl/norway-buys-rubber-tracks-for-cv90-afghan-operations/8304/
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Atleast 50 % indigenous contents has been mandated .
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No news, My source was blocked, so no updates..
Every thing, All those vehicle i posted are good swimmers even in sea..
And i expect similar kind from all Indian private manufactures after-all they all are going for help..
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Futuristic infantry combat vehicle set to roll
The Ministry of Defence (MoD), which had called for the request of proposal (RFP) for the Rs 1,00,000-crore futuristic infantry combat vehicle (FICV) project earlier this year, is likely to shortlist two of the contending firms by July-end.
About 10 private firms, including the Tata's, Larsen and Toubro (L&T) and the Mahindra & Mahindra-BAE Systems joint venture –– Defence Land Systems India (DLSI) –– are among the firms waiting to be shortlisted for a project that will see the Army procure at least 2,500 such vehicles.
The Centre, MoD sources said, is keen on firms with foreign collaborations/tie-ups and that they will have an edge over the others as the project will require high precision.
The MoD had completed the field and facility visits of companies it had shortlisted in February. Sources claimed it had asked for assurance of overseas transfer of technology (ToT).
Also, the Centre is particular that the execution of the project lie in the hands of a domestic firm, although the need for foreign collaboration is almost a 'mandate'.
US defence major General Dynamics is also said to be in the fray looking for possible tie-ups with Indian firms to bag the deal. The US firms competing for the other major defence contracts in India – the $10 billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) for the Indian Air Force – lost to their European competition.
The project will set a new precedence in the Indian defence procurement system. It has not only encouraged pure private participation for what defence sources term a "sensitive" project but it will also do away with the system of granting the deal on the basis of the lowest bid, a strong feature in Indian projects.
While the Centre is evidently keen on private participation and execution of the project, it is also seeking participation from a foreign firm, or a technology transfer from them to assure high quality product.
Futuristic infantry combat vehicle set to roll
The Ministry of Defence (MoD), which had called for the request of proposal (RFP) for the Rs 1,00,000-crore futuristic infantry combat vehicle (FICV) project earlier this year, is likely to shortlist two of the contending firms by July-end.
About 10 private firms, including the Tata's, Larsen and Toubro (L&T) and the Mahindra & Mahindra-BAE Systems joint venture –– Defence Land Systems India (DLSI) –– are among the firms waiting to be shortlisted for a project that will see the Army procure at least 2,500 such vehicles.
The Centre, MoD sources said, is keen on firms with foreign collaborations/tie-ups and that they will have an edge over the others as the project will require high precision.
The MoD had completed the field and facility visits of companies it had shortlisted in February. Sources claimed it had asked for assurance of overseas transfer of technology (ToT).
Also, the Centre is particular that the execution of the project lie in the hands of a domestic firm, although the need for foreign collaboration is almost a 'mandate'.
US defence major General Dynamics is also said to be in the fray looking for possible tie-ups with Indian firms to bag the deal. The US firms competing for the other major defence contracts in India – the $10 billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) for the Indian Air Force – lost to their European competition.
The project will set a new precedence in the Indian defence procurement system. It has not only encouraged pure private participation for what defence sources term a "sensitive" project but it will also do away with the system of granting the deal on the basis of the lowest bid, a strong feature in Indian projects.
While the Centre is evidently keen on private participation and execution of the project, it is also seeking participation from a foreign firm, or a technology transfer from them to assure high quality product.
Futuristic infantry combat vehicle set to roll
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Tata Motors in the running for big Indian military contract
if you exclude the amounts spent on the paramils, we are still at less than 3% of gdp. but yeah, as proportion of national budget, its around ~20%. but look at this way, it goes to actual employment in india as versus the nehru-gandhi this yojana, dig the hole, fill the hole, dig it now again type of yojanas which are just wasteful and contribute little to long term economic development (bar being being open for corruption).
on a longer note, this is what happens when you end up delaying military recapitalization. everythig comes about at the same time. iaf has taken teh lead here with all its orders and as usual army's processes are too slow. but this is a positive change. on immediate basis we need to replace the oldest bmp1s and add numbers. meanwhile we are also upgrading bmp-2ks with new thermal sights and anti tank missiles
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I agree with you, in principle. There is one bottleneck. These BTR type vehicles will have to have variable RPM on the two sides so that they can turn and the turning wheels will have to be made fixed, so that the rubber tracks do not come off.
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Half tracks are fine.
Where is it to be used?
Tracks basically enhance grip on soft and slushy terrain.
On the plus side for the tracks are pull and the ease of optimizing the traction system performance. The tracks also show a slight plus in power delivery efficiency. On the plus side for tyres are steering control and overall cost. A neutral issue for both systems was ride quality. The issue of soil compaction would be what?
Where is it to be used?
Tracks basically enhance grip on soft and slushy terrain.
On the plus side for the tracks are pull and the ease of optimizing the traction system performance. The tracks also show a slight plus in power delivery efficiency. On the plus side for tyres are steering control and overall cost. A neutral issue for both systems was ride quality. The issue of soil compaction would be what?
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The BMPS are deathraps. Sooner they are replaced and decommissioned the better. A modular system like the one being made by Poland is probably the best choice. It can be an APC, light tank, mortar carrier, anti-aircraft battery, etc.
