Why does not Indian army use GPMGs?

[India22]

We can at least use Drum Magazine in INSAS LMG like this

 

[Mikesingh]

We can at least use Drum Magazine in INSAS LMG like this

It's all about logistics! Carrying drum magazines is a pain as it occupies a lot of space. Doesn't fit anywhere whereas the normal magazines are flat and can be carried easily in pouches. Plus, drum magazines are more prone to stoppages/malfunctions.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

The reason belt feed MGs are not practiced in Army is that they are inefficient in assault or charge, One cannot shoot enemy while charging with such an firearm.

While i agree, That INSAS LMG should have drum option besides magazine, It comes handy when its in mounted position on vehicles or pill boxes.

 

[India22]

The reason belt feed MGs are not practiced in Army is that they are inefficient in assault or charge, One cannot shoot enemy while charging with such an firearm.

While i agree, That INSAS LMG should have drum option besides magazine, It comes handy when its in mounted position on vehicles or pill boxes.

Can we use then 40 round magazine like RPK 74? INSAS LMG will have a curved 40 round magazine.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Good pics there. I see sand colour Tavors there

Pikas are those we have captured from jehadis and pakis or directly acquired by us?

Vz59s are a rare one - seen in the famous IA advertisement

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PKM are captured and so are some of the Aks used by RR.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Not 40rnds but 32rnd magazine, Its hard to shoot a rifle / LMG with such a long magazine in prone position.

Can we use then 40 round magazine like RPK 74? INSAS LMG will have a curved 40 round magazine.

 

[India22]

Not 40rnds but 32rnd magazine, Its hard to shoot a rifle / LMG with such a long magazine in prone position.

Well Armies from all around the world use drum magazines, so why Indian army is concerned about jamming? If we use Curved Magazines on Bren Guns we can use 40 round magazines. Btw how often does FN MAGs used by army jam?

 

[India22]

It's all about logistics! Carrying drum magazines is a pain as it occupies a lot of space. Doesn't fit anywhere whereas the normal magazines are flat and can be carried easily in pouches. Plus, drum magazines are more prone to stoppages/malfunctions.

Does not really stand, you can carry 200 rounds in drum or box magazine, you carry 3 of them, one loaded and you have 600 rounds in just 3 magazines, but with stick magazines, you have to carry a lot of them.

 

[SofaAloo]

It will be good discussion if the topic is not closed or merged somewhere.

The problems generally pointed out is GPMGs often jam as they are belt-fed or box magazine fed and they overheat. Soldiers waste too much ammunition. I do think Indian army should change doctrine on section level and have following

8 Kalantak assault rifle(2 of them equipped with under barrel grenade launcher)
1 M110 Semi-automatic sniper system
1 Pecheneg Machine gun as GPMG
2 INSAS LMG as IAR
1 Carl Gustav.

A GPMG is a support weapon, it can be used in offence or defence quite as well as the model we use has a fold out bipod for use in the LMG role, you obviously don't know much but belt-fed is as reliable as it gets, and the soldiers who waste too much ammunition are probably those who haven't been trained to not get over excited with their weapon discipline, GPMG's will generally only jam when the barrel overheats and hence fire discipline ensures maximum and effective use of ammunition, not simply spraying it all out and washing flying tracer rounds.

The Carl Gustav is an ancient piece of crap! Jeez, India can easily procure one-shot anti-armour systems off the shelf from a foreign contractor anyway.

 

[Adioz]

A GPMG is a support weapon, it can be used in offence or defence quite as well as the model we use has a fold out bipod for use in the LMG role, you obviously don't know much but belt-fed is as reliable as it gets, and the soldiers who waste too much ammunition are probably those who haven't been trained to not get over excited with their weapon discipline, GPMG's will generally only jam when the barrel overheats and hence fire discipline ensures maximum and effective use of ammunition, not simply spraying it all out and washing flying tracer rounds.

The Carl Gustav is an ancient piece of crap! Jeez, India can easily procure one-shot anti-armour systems off the shelf from a foreign contractor anyway.

Plz Introduce yourselves in the members section.
Carl Gustaf is not meant for anti-armour roles (except in dire circumstances). And it is very good in the role it is employed for by the Indian Army. Even the US Army are replacing their At-4 with Gustaf.

 

[armyofhind]

Carl Gustav is an ancient piece of crap

Really? Is that the reason that Indian Army has been using it effectively, DRDO has made upgraded versions, It has been recently supplied to US special forces and now The Mk4 will be manufactured in India?

India can easily procure one-shot anti-armour systems off the shelf

Equating the Carl Gustaf with an anti armor weapon shows you don't know much.