UN set for implicit recognition of Palestinian state

Yusuf

GUARDIAN
Super Mod
Joined
Mar 24, 2009
Messages
24,324
Likes
11,757
Country flag
UNITED NATIONS: The UN General Assembly is set to implicitly recognize a sovereign state of Palestine on Thursday despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding much-needed funds for the West Bank government.

A Palestinian resolution that would change the Palestinian Authority's UN observer status from "entity" to "non-member state," like the Vatican, is expected to pass easily in the 193-nation UN General Assembly.

Israel, the United States and a handful of other members are planning to vote against what they see as a largely symbolic and counterproductive move by the Palestinians.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been leading the campaign to win support for the resolution, and over a dozen European governments have offered him their support after an eight-day conflict this month between Israel and Islamists in the Gaza Strip, who are pledged to Israel's destruction and oppose his efforts toward a negotiated peace.

The US State Department said on Wednesday that Deputy Secretary of State Bill Burns and US Middle East peace envoy David Hale traveled to New York on Wednesday in a last-ditch effort to get Abbas to reconsider.

The Palestinians gave no sign they were turning back.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeated to reporters in Washington on Wednesday the US view that the Palestinian move was misguided and efforts should focus instead on reviving the stalled Middle East peace process.

"The path to a two-state solution that fulfills the aspirations of the Palestinian people is through Jerusalem and Ramallah, not New York," she said. "The only way to get a lasting solution is to commence direct negotiations."

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated US warnings that the move could lead to a reduction of US economic support for the Palestinians. The Israelis have also warned they might take significant deductions out of monthly transfers of duties that Israel collects on the Palestinians' behalf.

'SLAP IN THE FACE'

Granting Palestinians the title of "non-member observer state" falls short of full UN membership - something the Palestinians failed to achieve last year. But it would allow them access to the International Criminal Court and some other international bodies, should they choose to join them.

Hanan Ashrawi, a top Palestinian Liberation Organization official, told a news conference in Ramallah that "the Palestinians can't be blackmailed all the time with money."

"If Israel wants to destabilize the whole region, it can," she said. "We are talking to the Arab world about their support, if Israel responds with financial measures, and the EU has indicated they will not stop their support to us."

Peace talks have been stalled for two years, mainly over the issue of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which have expanded despite being deemed illegal by most of the world.

In their draft resolution, the Palestinians have pledged to relaunch the peace process immediately following the UN vote.

As there is little doubt about how the United States will vote when the Palestinian resolution to upgrade its UN status is put to a vote sometime after 3 p.m. (2000 GMT) on Thursday, the Palestinian Authority has been concentrating its efforts on lobbying wealthy European states, diplomats say.

With strong support from the developing world that makes up the majority of UN members, the Palestinian resolution is virtually assured of securing more than the requisite simple majority. Palestinian officials hope for over 130 yes votes.

Abbas has been trying to amass as many European votes in favor as possible.

As of Wednesday afternoon, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Finland, France, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Spain and Switzerland had all pledged to support the Palestinian resolution. Britain said it was prepared to vote yes, but only if the Palestinians fulfilled certain conditions.

Diplomats said the Czech Republic was expected to vote against the move, although other Europeans might join it. Germany said it could not support the Palestinian resolution, but left open the question of whether it would abstain, like Estonia and Lithuania, or vote no with the Czechs.

Ashrawi said the positive responses from European states were encouraging and sent a message of hope to all Palestinians.

"This constitutes a historical turning point and opportunity for the world to rectify a grave historical injustice that the Palestinians have undergone since the creation of the state of Israel in 1948," she said.

A strong backing from European nations could make it awkward for Israel to implement harsh retaliatory measures. Diplomats say Israel wants to avoid antagonizing Europe. But Israel's reaction might not be so measured if the Palestinians seek ICC action against Israel on charges of war crimes, crimes against humanity or other crimes the court would have jurisdiction over.

Israel also seems wary of weakening the Western-backed Abbas, especially after the political boost rival Hamas received from recent solidarity visits to Gaza by top officials from Egypt, Qatar and Tunisia.

Hamas militants, who control Gaza and have had icy relations with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, unexpectedly offered Abbas their support earlier this week.

One Western diplomat said the Palestinian move was almost an insult to recently re-elected US President Barack Obama.

"It's not the best way to convince Mr. Obama to have a more positive approach toward the peace process," a Western diplomat planning to vote for the Palestinian resolution said. "Three weeks after his election, it's basically a slap in the face."

UN set for implicit recognition of Palestinian state, despite US, Israel threats - The Times of India on Mobile
 

Yusuf

GUARDIAN
Super Mod
Joined
Mar 24, 2009
Messages
24,324
Likes
11,757
Country flag
This is going be some fun. Wonder which direction will the Indian govt go
 

Agnostic Muslim

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2009
Messages
517
Likes
144
Jordan is Palestine.
However you look at it, Israeli occupation of the territories needs to end, whether the territories become an independent Palestinian State distinct from Jordan, or are merged into Jordan to become one larger Jordan/Palestine.
 

Agnostic Muslim

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2009
Messages
517
Likes
144
This is going be some fun. Wonder which direction will the Indian govt go
I don't really understand the arguments against the decision to grant the Palestinian territories 'Statehood', and I certainly find the US threats to withhold financial assistance to be hypocritical given that the US could have, and should, used threats to end financial assistance to Israel as a means of forcing Israel to stop constructing illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land.
 

KS

Bye bye DFI
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
8,005
Likes
5,758
Both Palestine and Israel got to exist with each other. I think Israel would have no problems with a Palestine state without Hamas and other brainless monkeys.
 

blank_quest

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2012
Messages
2,119
Likes
926
Country flag
Both Palestine and Israel got to exist with each other. I think Israel would have no problems with a Palestine state without Hamas and other brainless monkeys.
Whats interesting is that now Pakis will support UN for Palestine "Sate-hood", these are the same Chicken Head Pakis who said UN has failed when it comes to J&K. :tsk:
 

average american

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2012
Messages
1,540
Likes
441
I hope the USA vetos the resolution, Palestine and other Arab states have to recognise the right of Israel to exist before the USA supports a Palestinian state.
 

The Messiah

Bow Before Me!
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2010
Messages
10,809
Likes
4,619
Clever europeans cornered jews into palestine to make israel. They got rid of them and also got them to fight arabs so they can be at each others throats.

Whoever wins is meanigless. West will abandon israel when its suitable to do so, israel knew this thats why they got nukes. Only future for israel is to go down the south african path.
 

W.G.Ewald

Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2
Professional
Joined
Sep 28, 2011
Messages
14,139
Likes
8,594
However you look at it, Israeli occupation of the territories needs to end, whether the territories become an independent Palestinian State distinct from Jordan, or are merged into Jordan to become one larger Jordan/Palestine.
Israel has done the "land for peace" thing before. It has never worked, and it will never work. There will be peace in the middle east only when every Jewish person there is dead.
 

W.G.Ewald

Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2
Professional
Joined
Sep 28, 2011
Messages
14,139
Likes
8,594
Clever europeans cornered jews into palestine to make israel. They got rid of them and also got them to fight arabs so they can be at each others throats.

Whoever wins is meanigless. West will abandon israel when its suitable to do so, israel knew this thats why they got nukes. Only future for israel is to go down the south african path.
Jews have more determination than what you described.

As for the "apartheid" gimmick, Arabs and Jews are both semitic peoples..
 

Armand2REP

CHINI EXPERT
Senior Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2009
Messages
13,811
Likes
6,734
Country flag
India failed Israel again? They must really be turning sour.
 

amoy

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2010
Messages
5,982
Likes
1,849

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top