Terror strikes Mumbai: 3 Blasts, 21 killed, 141 injured

[Archer]

messiah dude

that guys being satirical and hes probably right. i

 

[JAYRAM]

Can we think of this?....

Who gets the advantage in world by encouraging india-pak conflict or war...?

 

[abirbec04]

Well Diggy is back at it again. The saffron boogey is back. Diggy roars. Clap clap !!!!!

Can’t rule out hand of Hindu outfits: Digvijaya - Indian Express

 

[sanjay]

You are a disgrace to India.

Inviting terrorists to kill Indian citizens.

Everyone, see what I mean about Kaangress-wallahs?

If terrorism kills an ordinary man on the street, they say "well, terrorism is an unsolvable problem"

But as soon as the Kaangressman's neck is threatened, then terrorism is suddenly a "disgrace", a "menace", and a "fundamental threat"

If terrorism can just get enough of the top Kaangress leadership, then we'll soon see a more powerful response to terrorism

 

[JayATL]

was there not a recent report that indicated that - was it the IM? that Pakistan was assisting India with IM assets in India? I remember reading someplace that Pakistan was helping India with some terror group who threatened both Pak and India for doing so...

 

[sanjay]

Pakistan assisting India on terror is like Kaangress assisting India on corruption

Nobody needs this kind of "assistance"

 

[sanjay]

Hey, look at this guy - is he on drugs?


I think he's waiting for SRK to show up with lots of trumpets and special fx.

 

[Yusuf]

LOl do you really want to go to Yervada?

AC room, with TV, chicken biryani, above all, tens of policemen guarding. I am sure no terrorist bomb will affect him.

 

[Iamanidiot]

Indians need to screw up Karachi so well that MOUT must take place between the various factions with PA being bumped off in the middle.This will give a clear and crisp message to the pukes as mayhem in Karachi will cause substantial loss of revenue to PA

 

[biswas_k11]

stop flowing of human blood in every street.

 

[sanjay]

What They Said: Mumbai After the Blasts - India Real Time - WSJ

 

[arya]

stop flowing of human blood in every street.

well sorry unless until you dont have respect for your own self no one respect you

they know indian govt dont care the human life . first they will not catched and if they catched by mistake they will get royal life in jails

they know govt will not take any action because they are minorities and govt only care for vote bank

one thing govt can do blame some Hindu for attack and sleep

 

[SLASH]

Secular Kangress is just punishing evil hindoos

They will not let the humble terrorist like Kasab and Afzal who have admitted to their mass murder be hanged but will go a long way to get dirt on Modi and his gang.

Just to keep us updated about the wellness of our guest Mr. Kasab, our government provides us with his daily schedule from taking potti in the morning to karate and eating biryani. They also gifted him with fireworks that killed 21 evil hindoos on his birthday.

So kind of our government.

 

[Archer]

Hang him already. Oh wait, thats not secular. Todays tabloid of india carried "secular" muslim leaders saying, dont jump to conclusions, it could be hindus who did this, after all even AICC says so including rahul gandhi and digvijay singh. No doubt "the messiah" approves of their statements. Birds of a feather, Congress deliberately props up those extremists who communalize the situation as versus the average bombay muslim, who probably wants kasab to hang and the actua terrorists to pay. In recent years, the UPA has deliberately sought to drive the communities apart so their traditional votebanks don't get defrayed, hence the non stop attacks on hindus and attempts to brainwash otherwise ok people into a sense of victimhood, even as their own right hand does the job. Hence Digvijay playing politics at Batla. I am so shameful that a nation like India has scum like the Congress playing divide and rule even the british have left. They are in some ways worse than the brits, who actually were open about their contempt for indians. The congress is all about money and power and playing to the worst caste, religious lines in india to retain power.Wonder when the minorities in this country will realize what they actually mean to the congress and how they are being used.

 

[Yusuf]

Archer, this might interest you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ClC4_dCro&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The results in Bihar in their last elections will also interest you. People vote for economic reasons. For better lives.

 

[sanjay]

Unfortunately, class warfare is the populist shortcut taken by the mentally lazy and the mentally challenged. Then they wreck their economy, and have to flee elsewhere to find jobs. Bihar did lose 10 years because of that, and it's not like Lalu has been banished from the political landscape. His fanatical followers even managed to fool people into believing that he'd done wonders in reforming the Indian rail system, before it was exposed as a lie.

Frankly, I'm fed up with educating people on how economics works to uplift their lives - if they want to be stupid and are determined screw up their lives because they're too ignorant to learn, then I say let them go right ahead and plunge into misery.

Those who are intelligent enough to instinctively grasp the benefits of free market competition can do so and reap the benefits, while those who are too ignorant and paranoid to do so can clutch at the rigid socialism they desperately think will save them, and reap the misery from it.

It might be best to have a 2-tier system, where some can move to zones that permit free market competition, while others can live in their protected zones under a license raj.

Mumbai blasts raise terrorism concerns, but not calls for political change - CSMonitor.com

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Sanjay what you are proposing is difficult to do 100%. India currently has 2 separate banking systems one regular banks and second a hawala system. India also has two separate economies one white and one black. many claim the black economy is twice as big as white. The system is designed for black money, over hauling the whole system would not be done because the higher ups in power get the maximum benefit from it.

 

[sanjay]

The challenge of illegal phenomena (eg. black market economy, hawala banking) existing separately in parallel to the legally recognized setup bears nothing against the idea of legally creating formal parallel systems tailored to economic needs and circumstances.

We could have different types of industrial zones tailored to different types of systems - one socialist and the other free and open. The challenge would be to prevent them from leaking into each other, but since the socialist system would be the more fragile of the two, it would be upto officials in the socialist zones to keep their end up. Certainly, the free-market zones would be more robust and less fragile, due to their inherent nature. Unions would not be permitted in the free-market zones, and would be restricted to the socialist zones but given enhanced powers within those zones. People could live anywhere, but the rules governing economic activity and employer-employee relations are what dominate within that zone. People could choose to work in whichever zone they wanted, but they would have to work according to the rules of that zone.

That way the competitive people can be free to compete, while the uncompetitive people would be free to be lazy, but having to live with the consequences of that.

This would undermine the current negative trend towards Vote Bank cultivation. If you want to beat one powerful trend, you have to come up with another more powerful trend.

So instead of having backward and forward communities, there would be backward and forward zones. If you live and work in a forward zone, you're not allowed to call yourself backward and demand special treatment. If you live in a backward zone, then you get that special treatment, but so does everybody else living and working in that zone.

 

[Archer]

Archer, this might interest you ‪Voices of Gujarat's Muslim BJP activists‬‏ - YouTube

The results in Bihar in their last elections will also interest you. People vote for economic reasons. For better lives.

yusuf i cant watch youtube now - too stuck in some stuff, so will take a raincheck.

what i note below is not actually in reply to you, its just something i wanted to just type out, perhaps the only thing we indians can be ok with, because i have come to realize how despite our self pats on the back regarding democracy or what not, we are basically, for better or worse a bunch of headless chickens who allow our leaders to get away with anything. europe evolved to democracy taking away the powers of feudals; the us established its system after running away from tinpots. in india we moved from a state of anarchy thanks to constant invasions and warfare, bar brief attempts at running a proper state (akbar, marathas, hoysala empire) - the others were either too far back (ancient india, mauryas or ended in civil war- aurangzeb or too regional - nizam etc) to a state of dictatorship (british). then we just got the new "empire" where bureaucrats and politicians acted like the new brown sahabs only under a veneer of fake democracy.

bihar is the worst example our democracy IMO, allow me to explain and entirely reflective of how our collective indian identity has made a mockery out of democracy. for a decade plus, a corrupt politician runs a state as a fiefdom, reducing it to a criminal enterprise, making economics law and order a joke, and the public, voting as per vote banks voted that joker in again and again. till the point the state became so broken, that even his special interest groups gave up and some shifted lines and a replacement came. what of all those killed, murdered, molested in those days? they are statistics to us all. billion plus, callous population

same for the current govt. several minority groups - have been id'ed as the current dispensations votebank and to be used as and when the votes matter. hence the speaking in several voices.

they will use them & all the others whom they regard as theirs, including portions of the backward groups, and keep using them till things get to the point that even that cant stand. and, from the responses posted by a lot of minority leaders, its dismaying to see that they still havent realized it. they actually think the upa is all about "secularism", about "fairness" and what not, because of all the rss/bjp baiting, meanwhile its all about making money and retaining power.

make enough moolah and you can buy yourself enough, as they already have done (nira tapes). but then what happens till then? all those guys killed in the umpteen strikes by pakistan and maoists and who knows who else till then? do they distinguish between minority and majority. see 26/11 and the poor killed, many were from the minority. they'll suffer and be ignored. there was this kid who lost his entire family. for the media it was an exercise in showing how secular they were. it was so craven. he will lead such a hard life, like the NSG guy who lost his eye and those taj personnel who gave their lives. and nobody cares.

by the time all those hoping the great economist will brighten their lives realize he won't, the country would have been screwed up 10x. come election and because the upa has managed to create this bogey of being "on their side", they'll get the votes. the british did divide and rule, the congress perfected it. the economist visited the hospital and relatives werent allowed to visit.
twice, his cavalcde has interrupted people with life threatening medical emergencies who werent allowed to go to hospital, ppl died and he sent "sorry letters". in any developed country would such a leader be allowed to remain in power? would those people who made such bad decisions be allowed to continue?

after radia tapes, journos are continuing, in UK an enquiry has been launched over hacking claims and all sorts of people no matter who were in power, are under investigation and even the PM is daily issuing clarifications.

in contrast, we are a fake democracy

this entire joke of idealogy, secularism, communalism, fabian economics, progressive rubbish was created by the congress to rule this country and ensure it defined the metrics by which a country is governed. in the us, the dems and reps are regarded as two sides of the same coin. americans are supremely practical people. if they get conned once, or even twice, idealogy goes out of the window and the govt goes packing. its only in india, that the congress has managed to create this entire "there is no alternative but us" factor by playing on the majority terror threat, deliberately keeping the communal cauldron alive and trying to make sure the minorities and assorted other caste groups dont ditch it, using sops. this causes resentment, more extremism and riots which feed the cycle of vote banks

till the average indian wakes up and realize that they are being taken for a royal ride, this sh*t will continue. if the bjp was brought in with a strict understanding that if they screw up, the congress would come in and vice versa, both guys would be honest. as things stand though, its divide and rule at play and pakistan getting away scot free.

one last thing, the average elite middle class indian is a study in contrasts. he has no issues being extremely unethical in behaviour with those lower in social status to him (compare for instance how the average indian behaves vis a vis how an american would behave with even a janitor), bribing (system yaar, what to do) and all sorts of chalta hain stuff. when it comes to national goals and aims, he acts like a fool led around by what a dorkette on tv says on some tv show and promptly signs up for its fb like page. in contrast, the rural rustic is more sensible, he votes on what he gains via sops and what his caste/ethnic group gains. but even he doesnt give dang for the nation beyond sending his kid to the army (at least he does that versus our middle class dudes).

but till the day the average indian realizes that yes, irrespective of this -ism the party in power's rival should be elected in place, and vice versa, and strict controls are placed on these politicians ability to influence law and order, till that day even a donkey will make an idiot out of us.

its not that pakistan is competent. its that india is phenomenally stupid. this current upa govt has been amongst the most incompetent, corrupt and venal india has ever had. and i am old enough to have seen several. but indians still allow such a feudal set up to persist, including a dynastic grab on power, just because it is some "ism" that they like. sheer stupidity.

till you rotate national parties in and out, there will be no accountability. whether it be companies or parties a monopoly means no accountability.

 

[Sikh_warrior]

you guys dont know this>

but the joke on the border from the other side is....We indians cant even hang a terrorist, let alone take on pakistan!

i hope there is a change in the govt at center, and not a khichdi govt, bjp comes in and acts like a man....not like the lame vajpayee without balls!

we dont have to carry out surgical strikes across the border. we have plenty of other choices we can utilise!

1. Hang Kasab and afzal guru.
2. abolish artical 370 for J&K.
3. take stern action, deploy army in maoist areas, eliminate them and bring in development.
4. take stern action against SIMI, IM etc and eliminate radicalised elements inside india.
5. all external aid to religious educational institutions to be regulated and monitered.
6. swift verdict for terrorist caught alive, (we dont catch them alive any more).
7. deport Ms Arundhiti Roy to AfPak, she can fight for taliban's human rights!
8. carry out modernisation of Indian Military on ASAP basis.
9. re-open RAW bench for Pakistan.
10. declare support for Balochis.
11. declare support for Sindhis.


i invite more suggestions from the fellow forum members.