Small arms of India

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  1. shom

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    Now time for the Best Glock 17.
    GLOCK 17,19 and 26:-
    The Glock pistol, sometimes referred to by the manufacturer as Glock "Safe Action" Pistol, is a series of semi-automatic pistols designed and produced by Glock Ges.m.b.H., located in Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. The company's founder, engineer Gaston Glock, had no experience with firearm design or manufacture at the time their first pistol, the Glock 17, was being prototyped. Glock did, however, have extensive experience in advanced synthetic polymers, knowledge of which was instrumental in the company's design of the first successful line of pistols with a polymer frame. Glock introduced ferritic nitrocarburizing into the firearms industry as an anti-corrosion surface treatment for metal gun parts.[5]
    Despite initial resistance from the market to accept a "plastic gun" due to durability and reliability concerns, and fears that the pistol would be "invisible" to metal detectors in airports, Glock pistols have become the company's most profitable line of products, commanding 65% of the market share of handguns for United States law enforcement agencies[6] as well as supplying numerous national armed forces and security agencies worldwide. Glocks are also popular weapons amongst civilians for home/self defense and concealed/open carry.
    Design details

    [edit]Operating mechanism
    The Glock 17 is a 9mm short recoil-operated locked breech semi-automatic pistol that uses a modified Browning cam-lock system adapted from the Hi-Power pistol.[28] The firearm's locking mechanism utilizes a linkless, vertically tilting barrel with a rectangular breech that locks into the ejection port cut-out in the slide. During the recoil stroke, the barrel moves rearward initially locked together with the slide approximately 3 mm (0.12 in) until the bullet leaves the barrel and chamber pressure drops to a safe level. A ramped lug extension at the base of the barrel then interacts with a tapered locking block integrated into the frame, forcing the barrel down and unlocking it from the slide. This camming action terminates the barrel's movement while the slide continues back under recoil, extracting and ejecting the spent cartridge casing. The slide's uninterrupted rearward movement and counter-recoil cycle are characteristic of the Browning system.
    9×19mm Parabellum
    The Glock 17 is the original 9×19mm Parabellum model, with a standard magazine capacity of 17 rounds. Several modified versions of the Glock 17 have been introduced.
    The Glock 17C was introduced in 1996 and incorporated slots cut in the barrel and slide to compensate for muzzle rise and recoil. Many other Glock pistols now come with this option, all with a "C" suffix on the slide.
    The Glock 17L was introduced in 1988 and incorporates a longer slide and extended barrel. Initially, the Glock 17L had three holes in the top of the barrel and a corresponding slot in the slide; however, later production pistols lack the holes in the barrel. The Glock 17L is effectively discontinued and replaced by the Glock 34.
    The Glock 17MB is a version with ambidextrous magazine catch. This model, along with the other MB variants, was discontinued upon the introduction of the fourth-generation models, which features a reversible magazine catch.


    The Glock 18, chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum, fitted with a detachable shoulder stock being fired in fully automatic mode
    The Glock 18 is a selective fire variant of the Glock 17, developed at the request of the Austrian counter-terrorist unit EKO Cobra. This machine pistol–class firearm has a lever-type fire-control selector switch, installed on the serrated portion of the rear left side of the slide. With the selector lever in the bottom position, the pistol will shoot fully automatic, and with the selector lever in the top position, the pistol will fire semi-automatically. The firearm is typically used with an extended 33-round capacity magazine, although other magazines from the Glock 17 will function, with available capacities of 10, 17, or 19 rounds. Early Glock 18 models were ported to reduce muzzle rise during automatic fire. Another compensated variant was produced, known as the Glock 18C. It has a keyhole opening cut into the forward portion of the slide, similar to the opening on the Glock long-slide models, although the Glock 18 has a standard-length slide. The keyhole opening provides an area to allow the four, progressively larger (from back to front) compensator cuts machined into the barrel to vent the propellant gases upwards, affording more control over the rapid-firing machine pistol.
    The compensator cuts start about halfway back on the top of the barrel. The two rear cuts are narrower than the two front cuts. The slide is hollowed, or dished-out, in a rectangular pattern between the rear of the ejection port and the rear sight. The rate of fire in fully automatic mode is approximately 1,100–1,200 rounds per minute. Most of the other characteristics are equivalent to the Glock 17, although the slide, frame, and certain fire-control parts of the Glock 18 are not interchangeable with other Glock models.[47][48]


    The compact Glock 19 in 9×19mm Parabellum
    The Glock 19 is effectively a reduced-size Glock 17, called the "Compact" by the manufacturer. It was first produced in 1988, primarily for military and law enforcement. The Glock 19 has a barrel and pistol grip that are shorter by approximately 12 mm (0.5 in) compared to the Glock 17 and uses a magazine with a standard capacity of 15 rounds. The pistol is compatible with factory magazines from the Glock 17 and Glock 18, with available capacities of 10, 17, 19, and 33 rounds. To preserve the operational reliability of the short recoil system, the mass of the slide remains the same as in the Glock 17 from which it is derived. With the exception of the slide, frame, barrel, locking block, recoil spring, guide rod, and slide lock spring, all of the other components are interchangeable between the models 17 and 19.
    National Security Guards, MARCOS and Para Commandos [72][93] Glock 17, 26
    Maharashtra Force One[94][95] Glock 17, 19
    Special Protection Group (replaced with FN Five-seven in 2008)[96]
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    Glock 17 vs. Glock 19 Full Details

    Which gun is better, a full size Glock 17, or the smaller Glock 19? This is a very common question, and like most questions it has more than just one answer. That’s how real life is, it’s not just yes and no, or true and false. It’s always a little more complex than that.
    So first lets look at a few of the features of each side by side.

    Magazine Capacity

    Glock 17 holds 17 – the Glock 17 staggers the bullets in a way that allow you to put an extra 2 bullets in the same clip space. The 9mm Beretta the standard Army issued sidearm holds just 15.

    Glock 19 holds 15 – The glock 19 holds just 15 bullets, but it will just like all the other Glock’s accept magazines from the same caliber weapon. That means you can put a 17 round or even 32 round clip in as well.



    Gun Size
    Glock 17 – 7.32 length, 1.18 width, 4.49 barrel, 5.43 height (all numbers in inches)
    Glock 19 – 6.85 length, 1.18 width, 4.02 barrel, 5.00 height (all numbers in inches)

    So we can see that they are both 1.18 in wide, and the Glock 19 is about 1/2 in (.47 inches) shorter in length, about 1/2 in shorter in the barrel length, and about 1/2 in shorter in height..

    Shorter barrel means less accuracy, but common is a pistol not a rifle right? I’m not sure how much it effects accuracy, I’m not able to tell a difference, but I’m not a marksman and I don’t shoot competitively.

    The big thing here is conceal-ability. Unless you are a very big dude, then the Glock 17 is a little more difficult to conceal. If you are wanting to conceal carry then you are most likely going to want the 19, but as most people say. Make sure you shoot them both. We can pull all the stats in the world and show them to you, but nothing really compares to real life, and at around $500 a pop that’s a expensive mistake, right?

    Some people say the 19 fits better in their hand, some people say the 17 fits better. Some people like the balance of the 19, some like the 17.
    Glock 17 – 22.04 oz w/no magazine (full mag +9.87 oz, empty mag +2.75 oz)
    Glock 19 – 20.99 oz w/no magazine (full mag +8.99 oz, empty mag +2.46 oz)

    Trigger Pull

    Glock 17 – 5.5 lbs
    Glock 19 – 5.5 lbs

    The trigger pull for both the glock 17 and the glock 19 are the same. You can take your Glock to a glock specialist and have them reduce the trigger pull of course, but these are all after market mods.
    Usage

    What are you planning to use this for? Home defense, open carry, conceal carry, for the truck/car? If you are using it for home defense and you are happy with the way a Glock 17 feels then go with that, if you want a backup weapon, or a conceal carry weapon and you like the way the Glock 19 shoots, then choose that.

    So what did we decide? Well we decided to buy one of each of course! We suggest you hit up your local gun range, they most likely rent both of these out. The only way to tell is to hold it in your hand.
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    The Garuds with Glock ,, after an immense search I got this photo,,,,
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    L34A1 Sterling Silenced 9mm Carbine.

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    Sub Machine Gun Carbine 9 mm 2A1 (Silent Version)
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    Sub-Machine Gun 9 mm, Carbine 2A1 is a special purpose weapon for use in clandestine roles. It is fitted with a silencer unit at the front of the barrel which is easily replaceable. It is operated by spent case projection or blow back action. The sound of explosion is effectively reduced by expansion of gases through the drilled holes of the barrel and is controlled through the silencer unit. When fired, it produces only the mechanical sound of moving parts. It is a light-weight easy to handle weapon, capable of automatic firing.

    SPECIFICATION :
    Calibre 9 mm
    Length with Butt

    902 mm

    Length with Folded Butt

    698 mm

    Length of Barrel

    198.12
    Bore Dia High -
    Bore Dia Low - 8.89 mm
    8.814 mm
    Nos. of Grooves

    6
    Twist

    Right Hand

    Pitch of Rifling

    1 turn in 250 mm
    Weight of Weapon with loaded Magazine and Sling
    4.76 Kgs

    Weight of Weapon with Empty Magazine
    4.00 Kgs

    Type of sight used with Range Setting
    Fore Sight

    Adjustable Fore Sight
    Back Sight

    Aperture Peep Type

    Range Setting

    91.44 M to 182.88 M

    Effective Range

    27.34 M (30 Yds)

    Maximum Range

    91.44 M (100 Yds)

    System of Operation

    Blow back self loading type
    Type of Magazine

    BOX

    Magazine capacity

    34 Rounds

    Weight of Empty Magazine

    0.280 Kg

    Weight of Full Magazine

    0.688 Kg

    Cyclic Rate of fire per minute
    150 rounds

    Rate of Fire single per minute
    68 rounds

    Type of Bayonet used
    Nil
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    Have I posted the same picture Kunal Da? This is same gun I presume??????

    Source:- Indian Ordnance Factory Website
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Not the same Carbine, OFB produced once dont have that wooden forarm grip..
     
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    Yeah Dada couldnt find a picture of OFB produced one that is why I gave this pic. @Kunal Biswas Dada I have not seen this gun used by any one. Who are the major users dada????
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Silenced Carbine is issued to every single Infantry unit in IA ..
     
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    Ohh ,, thats good ,,, but dont you think dada that this gun is old enough to be retired?????? Is this gun efficient enough in view of time?????
     
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    Yes, Its very old and should be retired but it is still very useful as it is silenced and effective and accurate from 50ms..

    9mm carbine Silenced is very stable in full-auto and one can rain rounds on a enemy very fast with reasonable stealth at close ranges..

    It is a very good capability and very often use by RR ..

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    It is meant to be replaced by MSMC
     
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    The other day I saw an episode on Discovery channel program named Trigger. Colt 1911 v Baretta M9. The colt with its 45 cal round has more stopping power.
     
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    Carbines are issued to Officers, JCOs and those who man heavy weapons.

    The rationale:

    This is because the officer and JCOs should be equipped lightly so that they can move around fast in line of exercising command or recce during combat situations, requiring them to be metaphorically omnipresent to influence and control the battle.

    Those who carry crew served weapons either have pistols or Carbines since as it is they have to move with heavy crew served weaponry with various segments of the weapon which are heavy but themselves as it is.
     
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    Thanx sir for clearing me out,,, I was wondering about the reason,,, Hope soon these carbines are replaced by MSMCs
     
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    Couple of days back i had chat with one of my friends who serves in the crpf doing his duty in manipur.He told me that the best preferred weapon of them was X95 first and AKM only second to that.He was very critical of insas due to its less power, lack of scopes,weight etc.X95s are preferred due to its ambidextrous nature,and variety of scopes like night vision and reflex sights in it.Due to these scopes x95 even though with less punching power are the favourites of crpf guys even though they had access to all type of infantry weapons used by army.They are impressed by the firing rate too.
    Th newest weapon in their arsenal are the bulgarian aks with ubgls.
    Even though he praised about the sheer killing power of SLR , he told me that they used only in limited numbers and that too mainly as grenade launchers.

    Its been time to upgrade over infantry weapons like AKs,insas and vz58s with scopes and railings.
     
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    INSAS does has Scopes, Perhaps his does not have it..
     
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    Re: INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    AK-103 Assault Rifle

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    Re: INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    M4 Carbine, 5.56 mm, Bought under foreign military sales. For use by Indian Army Special Forces.

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    Re: INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Dragunov sniper rifle


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