Russia plans to deploy Borey-class subs in Pacific

[john70]

Russia plans to deploy Borey-class subs in Pacific



Russia plans to deploy Borey-class subs in Pacific - Brahmand.com

Russia plans to deploy the first two of its new Borey-class strategic nuclear submarines in the Pacific region, the country's First Deputy Defence Minister has said.

"I am absolutely certain that the first two subs will be initially placed with the Northern Fleet and will be redeployed to the Pacific Fleet after all the infrastructure there is ready," Alexander Sukhorukov, the First Deputy Defence Minister of Russian Federation, was quoted as saying by Ria Novosti on Wednesday.

The first two Project 955 Borey-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) - Yuri Dolgoruky and Alexander Nevsky - are presently undergoing sea trials in the White Sea and are expected to be commissioned into service by the end of this year.

Russia is presently building four Borey-class SSBNs and plans to build four more by 2015. The Russian Navy is expected to receive at least ten such submarines by 2020.

Each of the fourth-generation nuclear attack submarine, having a length of 170 meters, width of 13.5 meters and displacement of 24,000 tons, is capable of carrying 16 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) having a range of over 8,000 kilometers.

The Asia-Pacific region has assumed importance in recent times with leading global military players, including the US, China and Japan, flexing their muscle amidst growing tension among the littoral states of the area over a number of islets and water.

The US has decided to bolster its military presence in the Asia-Pacific by shifting the bulk of its naval fleet including as many as six aircraft carriers to the Pacific by 2020 as part of new strategic focus on Asia.

The first two Project 955 Borey-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) - Yuri Dolgoruky and Alexander Nevsky - are presently undergoing sea trials in the White Sea and are expected to be commissioned into service by the end of this year.

Each of the fourth-generation nuclear attack submarine, having a length of 170 meters, width of 13.5 meters and displacement of 24,000 tons, is capable of carrying 16 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) having a range of over 8,000 kilometers.

On 28 June 2011 a Bulava missile was launched for the first time from the Borei class submarine Yury Dolgorukiy. The test was announced as a success

These Bulava missiles are not so successful. Only 11 of 18 or 19 test launches of the troubled Bulava have been officially declared successful. However, some analysts suggest that in reality the number of failures is considerably higher. Russian military expert Pavel Felgenhauer said that of the Bulava's first 12 test launches, only one was entirely successful. Despite several previous failures officially blamed on manufacturing faults, the Russian military has insisted that there is no alternative to the Bulava.

The Bulava (SS-NX-30) SLBM, developed by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology (since 1998), carries up to 10 MIRV warheads and has a range of over 8,000 kilometers (5,000 miles). The three-stage ballistic missile is designed for deployment on Borey-class nuclear submarines.

Because of the repeated failures during Bulava test launches, some experts have suggested that the Borei submarine could instead be armed with R-29RMU Sineva missiles.

The R-29RMU Sineva is seen as a rival to the solid propellant Bulava SLBM.The R-29RMU Sineva (Russian: Синева, lit. "blueness"), also designated RSM-54, is a Russian liquid-fueled submarine-launched ballistic missile.It can carry four supersonic warheads and is designed to be launched from Delta IV class submarines, which are armed with 16 missiles each.The Sineva missile has reportedly been replaced by the R-29RMU2.1 "Liner" missile in 2012

 

[drkrn]

any chance of india getting hands on this ?

 

[pmaitra]

any chance of india getting hands on this ?

Nope.

Three things Russia will never give to anybody in the near future:

• Borei Class Design and Technology
• Tupolev-160
• Topol-M

 

[drkrn]

atleast we got akula.best in the indian ocean.atleast we can increase their no

 

[Austin]

Borei class would restore the acoustic parity that was in favour of Western SSN force for a long time as no new sub development took place in 2 decades.

Infact the Russian Navy Chief mentioned that with Borei class they would start patrolling world ocean compared to the current Bastion Strategy which was restricted to patrolling in restricted guarded area.

The modified Borei class 955U will have 50 % new equipment compared to 955 class and 20 SLBM over 16 Bulava. This should also have further reduction on acoustic quitening.

US Naval ONI belives that Borei class class is far more quiter than any Akula class the only other Russian submarine quiter would be the new Yasen class.

Here are US Naval Intelligence Estimates on Borei

 

[W.G.Ewald]

What is known about the character of noise created by submarines?

What is known about the character of noise created by submarines? Appendix 1 - The Future of Russia's Strategic Nuclear Forces - E.V. Miasnikov

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Sound Surveillance System – SOSUS – became a key, long-range early-warning asset for protecting the United States against the threat of Soviet ballistic missile submarines and in providing vital cueing information for tactical, deep-ocean, anti-submarine warfare. And although subsequent events – most notably the end of the Cold War – robbed SOSUS of much of its mission, its history remains an object lesson in how inspired, science-based engineering development can lead to extraordinary operational effectiveness.

SOSUS The "Secret Weapon" of Undersea Surveillance

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Austin]

SOSUS The "Secret Weapon" of Undersea Surveillance

The Soviets managed to evade SOSUS in good part with the development of Victor 3 SSN which came as a big surprise to NATO as previously Soviet submarine were described as Bellowing Cows and Victor 3 reduced noise level to a great level , in good part thanks to Walker spy scandal.

Right now SOSUS system has been disbanded and used for civilian application.

 

[drkrn]

The Soviets managed to evade SOSUS in good part with the development of Victor 3 SSN which came as a big surprise to NATO as previously Soviet submarine were described as Bellowing Cows and Victor 3 reduced noise level to a great level , in good part thanks to Walker spy scandal.

Right now SOSUS system has been disbanded and used for civilian application.

thanks for info.the walker spy scandal is amazing.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

thanks for info.the walker spy scandal is amazing.

John Anthony Walker (spy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

John Anthony Walker, Jr. (born 28 July 1937, Washington D.C.)[1] is a former United States Navy Chief Warrant Officer and communications specialist convicted of spying for the Soviet Union from 1968 to 1985.[2] In late 1985, Walker reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors, which required him to testify against his co-conspirator, former Senior Chief Petty Officer Jerry Whitworth, and provide full details of his espionage activities. In exchange, prosecutors agreed to a lesser sentence for Walker's son, Michael Walker, who was also involved in the spy ring.[2] During his time as a Soviet spy, Walker helped the Soviets decipher more than one million encrypted naval messages,[3] organizing a spy operation that The New York Times reported in 1987 "is sometimes described as the most damaging Soviet spy ring in history."[4]

 

[Austin]

thanks for info.the walker spy scandal is amazing.

It was amazing to the extent that it let the Soviet knew how far behind they were compared to the Americans in Acoustics and they could actually compare stuff like their submarine patrol in a selected area and then compare with what Walker gave them and then understand what the Americans knew about it.

But the entire industrial effort to build quite submarine subsequent to Walker information , building many dozens of research facility in acoustics , building industrial base to manufacture machine with high tolerance and low noise , ship yard that can build quality submarine were all Soviet Effort something no spy can give you but have to build on your own effort.

Prior to Walker the Soviet spent money on developing Fast , Deep Diving ,Highly Automated submarine with focus on different designs , materials like Titanium and reactor technology both LWR and high density sodium cooled reactor post walker a lot of effort was spent in quitening subs and non-acoustics sensors.

 

[afako]

Borei class would restore the acoustic parity that was in favour of Western SSN force for a long time as no new sub development took place in 2 decades.

Infact the Russian Navy Chief mentioned that with Borei class they would start patrolling world ocean compared to the current Bastion Strategy which was restricted to patrolling in restricted guarded area.

The modified Borei class 955U will have 50 % new equipment compared to 955 class and 20 SLBM over 16 Bulava. This should also have further reduction on acoustic quitening.

US Naval ONI belives that Borei class class is far more quiter than any Akula class the only other Russian submarine quiter would be the new Yasen class.

Here are US Naval Intelligence Estimates on Borei

Indian Akula is Akula 1 Upgraded which would settle somewhere +/- Oscar and Arihant is speculated to have Russian Components which could be around Type 095 (Considering 2 Generations behind the Best Russian Technology at the given time).

Where does Astute and Baracada fit?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

India leased Akula-II which was further updated as per Indian need..

India's Navy Leases Russian Akula II Submarine

Arihant capability is unknown only guess work from International media, She is new breed of Nuclear Sub..

Small Boomer..

Indian Akula is Akula 1 Upgraded which would settle somewhere +/- Oscar and Arihant is speculated to have Russian Components which could be around Type 095 (Considering 2 Generations behind the Best Russian Technology at the given time).

 

[HeinzGud]

Nope.

Three things Russia will never give to anybody in the near future:

• Borei Class Design and Technology
• Tupolev-160
• Topol-M

Ukraine has dozen of TU-160s isn't it? so why Russia bother about them?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Ukraine has dozen of TU-160s isn't it? so why Russia bother about them?

Russia never give, they earn it when Soviets broke..

 

[HeinzGud]

Russia never give, they earn it when Soviets broke..

oh right... anyway Blackjacks are white elephants anyway! ( I thought there maybe some technical issues that Russia won't give...!)

 

[Austin]

Alexandr Nevksi SSBN ,2nd Borei class before launch

 

[Austin]

Laying down of 4th submarine of Borei Class 955A , Prince Vladmir

kuleshovoleg - АПК "Князь Владимир". Проект 955 Борей - А. Закладка 30.07.2012

gives good idea of the thickness of pressure hull.

 

[Jim Street]

Which Ocean will be the center of this century, Indian Ocean or Pacific.Ocean ?

Pacific will see buildup of 60% US fleet, Chinese,Russian along with ROK and Japan (only the major navies), while Indian Ocean will have US, India, Chinese and Russia (not sure).