Pakistan's Ideology and Identity crisis

[aditya10r]

@shimshali
Bhai kitne joint maar liye tune????????????

 

[raheel besharam]

Wtf is hanuman army, shall we start calling ur army with these names too?

ayesha army, khadija army, pedophile army, whhabi takfiri porkistan army @shimshali

 

[republic_roi97]

By the way most of the solders deployed on the LOC are shia indians and their fantasy of being 2012 supa pawa

Yeah but their "hukmuuraaans" are not shias. Grow up and realize the fact that we already have grown into an economy and military that is far stronger then your mullah military and unstable-jihadi-economy waiting for a crash. LMAO

 

[Tarun Kumar]

Lol the shias deployed along LOC as they belong to that region. Punjabis are too scared to face the firepower of Indian army on LOC

 

[Mikesingh]

you Guys here are talking about the super hanuman army killing 8 pakistani soldiers with super hanuman shakti while you forget that two of your own were killed by accidental fire. we dont need to attack you guys you will kill your solders yourself LOL

Oh really? Your common Paki saying is: 1 Pak soldier = 10 Hindu infidels! Lol
But then 90,000 'invincible' Pakis surrendered to 'Hindu infidels' in 1971!! Sheeesh! What a fukin shame!

And one of your harebrained Generals told Mush before the Kargil war that "Siachen will be ours after capturing Kargil as the Hindu infidels are cowards and cannot fight." But yet you guys got hammered so bad at Kargil that you even refused to take back the dead bodies of your soldiers! That's how the Islamic Army of Porkistan functions!

 

[Brood Father]

you Guys here are talking about the super hanuman army killing 8 pakistani soldiers with super hanuman shakti while you forget that two of your own were killed by accidental fire. we dont need to attack you guys you will kill your solders yourself LOL

And yours mard e chowmin army are dying like flies in Afghan border ... lol

 

[shimshali]

Wtf is hanuman army, shall we start calling ur army with these names too?

ayesha army, khadija army, pedophile army, whhabi takfiri porkistan army @shimshali

well it is not us your defense minister called your army hanuman army. also i have seen that some people like to call pakistani porkistani so in result i will also call indians street shiters.

Yeah but their "hukmuuraaans" are not shias. Grow up and realize the fact that we already have grown into an economy and military that is far stronger then your mullah military and unstable-jihadi-economy waiting for a crash. LMAO

LOL our founding father was a shia and you should realize that your country has the largest number of poorest people in the world by the way when is your country becoming supa pawa i thought it was 2012

Lol the shias deployed along LOC as they belong to that region. Punjabis are too scared to face the firepower of Indian army on LOC

yeah yeah same can be said about ladakh scouts. and we are scared of the powerfull and starving army which mistakenly kills it own solders .LOL

And yours mard e chowmin army are dying like flies in Afghan border ... lol

Well at least they die honorably while fighting unlike our neighbor where their soldiers might dies of hunger or accidental misfire..

 

[Brood Father]

well it is not us your defense minister called your army hanuman army. also i have seen that some people like to call pakistani porkistani so in result i will also call indians street shiters.

LOL our founding father was a shia and you should realize that your country has the largest number of poorest people in the world by the way when is your country becoming supa pawa i thought it was 2012


yeah yeah same can be said about ladakh scouts. and we are scared of the powerfull and starving army which mistakenly kills it own solders .LOL


Well at least they die honorably while fighting unlike our neighbor where their soldiers might dies of hunger or accidental misfire..

BC honorably , may be in Pakistan surrendering is the new honor
See how your mard e chowmin surrendered in hundreds to taliban , and you know the best not a single bullet was fired by pakistani army .....Honorably my ass

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/08/taliban_capture_over.php

 

[prasadr14]

The Pedo Muhammad worshippers are now using the term Hanuman Army everywhere as if that is offensive to us Hindus

These brainless Abrahamic clowns don't have an idea that Hindus don't think and get offended the say way these guys do...They should watch some Indian movies where we parody all Hindu gods and have fun...

 

[shimshali]

And so were nearly all the SSG and Napaaki fauj who became pest-e-shaheed in the Lal Masjid operation in 2007 and so were NLI who were wiped out in Kargil in 1999.

It only goes onto show that Bakis are happy to use Shias as cannon fodder against India, against Taliban and at the same time carry out worst forms of ethnic genocide against Shias in Hazra, Parchinar and Punjab and elsewhere.

It's no wonder that anti-Shia groups Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and to an extent Sipah-e-Sahaba are in the forefront of Baki deep state atrocities in occupied Baluchistan. The new Al Badr and Al Shams, if you will. Only in this case they are allowed a free run against the Shias in exchange for their "cooperation" in occupied Baluchistan

When shit hits the fan, they'll be the first to be abandoned much like how the Bihari of Al Badr and Al Shams were left to rot in slums and camps of Dhaka.

well its not us who voted for a genocidal president which killed hundreds in gujrat.
like i said our founder was also shia

 

[shimshali]

Do you always talk like a moron? India's President is genocidal? Lol! Do you frikkin even know who the President of India is?

You Pakis are real knuckleheads. No wonder your country is going down the shit-hole faster than the speed of light.

Sorry forgot Modi was not president but the genocidal prime minister
by the way who is the president of india.

 

[F-14B]

Sorry forgot Modi was not president but the genocidal prime minister
by the way who is the president of india.

Modi is a million times better than that man whore called jhinna and we voted for him and a pakistani is calling my prime minister genocidal quite rich coming from a moron who lives in a country founded on the basis of

• Economic insecurity
• Arab slaveship
• War mongering
• Superority and inferority complex
• So called martial superiority
• Begging and randi rona
• And black mail and back stabbing

Quite rich indeedenjoy our zakat baby remeber you have only started seeing the trailer i sware on you head if ever i come to the PMO i will leave you begging for modi beacuse if that day ever comes i will unleash the dogras on your sorry ass this i promise on the quran

 

[Mikesingh]

previous pakistani president musharaf was known genocider against baluchs

current pm nawaz was a political child of jia-ul-haq who started islamization in pakistan

one of the last president zulfiqar ali bhutto who did bangladesh genocide was excecuted by army

And @shimshali should also be aware that General Niazi and YahYa Khan were the greatest butchers the world has ever seen so far since WW 2. These buggers were responsible the the genocide in East Pakistan. Millions were killed and thousand raped by the Porki Army. Their debauchery was mindblowing.

@shimshali, you Porki morons keep talking about the Muslims killed in Gujarat. Do you even know how many Muslims and Hindus were killed? 790 Muslims and 573 Hindus! So why do you frikkin idiots keep talking about a 'Muslim' pogrom? Both communities were equally affected.

 

[mayfair]

like i said our founder was also shia

And publicly buried as a Sunni, privately as Shia....

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Pakistan 2017 Comprehensively Colonized By China – Analysis
April 24, 2017

Flags of China and Pakistan.


By Dr Subhash Kapila*

Reminiscent of British colonisation of India two centuries ago facilitated by some Indian princes connivance two centuries ago, China in 2017 has comprehensively colonised Pakistan with the connivance of Pakistan Army and Pakistani politicians.

India needs to take a special note of this trend as in 2017 wherein it is emerging that Pakistan’s own national interest would now slide into a sub-text and be subsumed into the all-enveloping Chinese strategic blueprint for South Asia. Pakistan would only be a Chinese colonial proxy for dealing with India.

Perceptionaly, in 21st Century political parlance it can be believed that a nation gets “colonised” when willingly a nation’s power structure elites concede their policy decision-making wholly or virtually to a powerful neighbour in the domains of foreign policy, political dynamics, economic development and subsuming one’s own national security interests to those of their ‘strategic patron.’

Strategically ironic is the fact that Pakistan, as a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic of Pakistan, self-proclaimed as geopolitically significant globally, and also proclaiming ‘strategic equivalence’ with India as the neighbourly Emerged Power, should have succumbed to China’s geopolitical pressures over the decades to build it as the contending power with India. In the process decades later in 2017, Pakistan despite its mighty claims has seemingly emerged as comprehensively colonised by China.

Ironically further, is the tragic reality that China’s colonisation of Pakistan was made possible by the majority Punjabi-dominated Pakistan Army Generals and the Punjabi-dominated Pakistani political set-up. ‘Mountains-High’ and ‘Oceans-Deep’ rhetorical flourishes on the ‘China & Pakistan Iron Brothers’ relationship is nothing but a fig-leaf to deceive the unsuspecting people of Pakistan on the true nature of this relationship. Pakistan in 2017 seems to have emerged as yet another Muslim Province of China like Xinjiang.

China’s comprehensive colonisation of Pakistan needs to be examined in as to how far China is in control of Pakistan’s processes of foreign policy, dominance of Pakistan’s economic future and most significantly as to how much China has penetrated the Pakistan Army hierarchy and how deeply the Pakistan Army has been rendered an irreversible military client state of China.

Much propagated in academic and strategic circles is that it is the Pakistan Army which controls Pakistan’s foreign policy towards India and Afghanistan and even major powers like Russia and USA. The truism in 2017 is that the foreign policy of Pakistan towards these countries is being controlled by China, through its proxy, the Pakistan Army. This is said in the sense that Pakistan is made to factor-in China’s strategic sensitivities when Pakistan formulations on India and Afghanistan are made and its attitudinal inclinations towards the Major Powers are determined.

The China-Pakistan Axis is fully in play in 2017 with connivance of Pakistani military and Pakistan political hierarchy and significantly emerges as a crucial determinant in Pakistan’s dealings with USA, India and Afghanistan overturning existing templates. In the same pattern falls the Russian o pivot to Pakistan under China’s influence.

China’s control of Pakistan’s political processes and thought is achieved by its penetrations of the Punjabi-predominant Pakistan Army hierarchy and politicians. Has anyone observed China reaching out politically to Pakistani politicians of other fringe provinces of Pakistan? Why do Pakistani politicians sing hymns of praise for China, had it not been for political gains?

Why does China shield global terrorists like Massod Azhar from being sanctioned by United Nations by China using its veto? Is it not that China has a vested interest n Pakistani Jihadi affiliates of Pakistan Army targeting India? Is it not that by such negativity, China achieves its aims of destabilising India through its colonial proxy, the Pakistan Army?

Pakistani political establishment’s brutal suppression of unrest in Gilgit and Baltistan in the North and even more brutally in Balochistan in the South on the Arabian Sea Coast has more to do with furthering China’s strategic interest in these regions.

China in 2017 has firmly colonised Pakistan in all economic domains extending from power generation, infrastructure development and like the British in India’s colonisation reduced Pakistan to the status of a resources provisioning economy for the Chinese economy.

China’s masterstroke in inducing Pakistan into mortgaging Pakistan’s present and future economic prosperity has been achieved by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s announcement in 2015 of the much flaunted $ 46 billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor (C PEC). Projected by China as a Chinese master blueprint for economic transformation of Pakistan, it is a merely a strategic Chinese blueprint for China’s colonial control of Pakistan in perpetuity, strategically and economically. Pakistan is being made to take heavy loans from Chinese banks at high rates of interest to finance the CPEC and some experts opine that Pakistan would take nearly forty years to pay back Chinese loans.

Notable voices within Pakistan have publicly raised questioning the CPECs economic benefits to Pakistan and pointing out that the virtual and real economic benefits accrue to China. Further, whatever economic benefits that fall within the Pakistani lap are all in favour of Punjabi-dominated Pakistan Amy and the Punjab Province. The CPEC has therefore created political divisions within Pakistan on the classic colonial pattern of ‘divide and rule’. The CPEC alignment predominantly runs through the heartland of Pakistan Punjab.

The Pakistan Army never sold its ‘soul’ to the United States despite decades of United States providing ‘strategic patronship’ to Pakistan and pumping in billions of dollars of aid additionally. In fact, the Pakistan Army in marked ingratitude, all along, double-timed the United States. Contrastingly, the Pakistan Army has noticeably sold its soul to China, even when China has not matched American munificence. More significantly, the Pakistan Army has never dared to double-time China on its strategic interests. The Pakistan Army is fully subservient to Chinese dictates as exemplified by the Pakistan Army assault n Lal Masjid on Chinese dictates, sometime back

If CPEC through which China engirdles Pakistan, or better still, through CPEC the Chinese shackling of Pakistan in perpetuity is achieved by China, then it is the Pakistan Army which is in marked collusion with China to achieve this. The Pakistan Army through two different Army Chiefs has committed itself to be sole provider of security to CPEC through a specially raised Army Division sized force. Not only that, the Pakistan Army has been at odds with the civilian government in that the Pakistan Army wants full control of project-management of the CPEC project by edging out Pakistani civilian agencies. The intentions of the Pakistan Army in furthering China’s strategic interests are suspect?

The Pakistan Army nuclear weapons arsenal and its ballistic missiles arsenal came into existence fully on Chinese technology and assistance and so are its military hardware inventories in 2017. Should in the future Pakistan ever wishes to exit from the Chinese colonial hold, the Pakistan Army would take decades to transform its predominantly Chinese military hardware inventories.

More noticeably, whenever Pakistan is faced with some crisis or a crisis in the making the Pakistan Army Chief of the day rushes to Beijing for consolations, or better still, Chinese mentoring, especially when related to India.

Concluding, it is tragic to observe that the Punjabi-dominated Pakistan Army and the Punjabi-dominated Pakistani political establishment blinded by their pathological hatred for India should have willy-nilly become the handmaidens for China’s comprehensive colonisation of Pakistan. India would be well advised to factor-in this perspective in dealing with Pakistan. India would henceforth not be dealing with Pakistan but with a China-colonised Pakistan where Pakistani national interest would be now a sub-text of China’s strategic stakes in South Asia.

http://www.eurasiareview.com/24042017-pakistan-2017-comprehensively-colonized-by-china-analysis/

 

[Hiranyaksha]

Pakistan 2017 Comprehensively Colonized By China – Analysis
April 24, 2017

Flags of China and Pakistan.


By Dr Subhash Kapila*

Reminiscent of British colonisation of India two centuries ago facilitated by some Indian princes connivance two centuries ago, China in 2017 has comprehensively colonised Pakistan with the connivance of Pakistan Army and Pakistani politicians.

India needs to take a special note of this trend as in 2017 wherein it is emerging that Pakistan’s own national interest would now slide into a sub-text and be subsumed into the all-enveloping Chinese strategic blueprint for South Asia. Pakistan would only be a Chinese colonial proxy for dealing with India.

Perceptionaly, in 21st Century political parlance it can be believed that a nation gets “colonised” when willingly a nation’s power structure elites concede their policy decision-making wholly or virtually to a powerful neighbour in the domains of foreign policy, political dynamics, economic development and subsuming one’s own national security interests to those of their ‘strategic patron.’

Strategically ironic is the fact that Pakistan, as a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic of Pakistan, self-proclaimed as geopolitically significant globally, and also proclaiming ‘strategic equivalence’ with India as the neighbourly Emerged Power, should have succumbed to China’s geopolitical pressures over the decades to build it as the contending power with India. In the process decades later in 2017, Pakistan despite its mighty claims has seemingly emerged as comprehensively colonised by China.

Ironically further, is the tragic reality that China’s colonisation of Pakistan was made possible by the majority Punjabi-dominated Pakistan Army Generals and the Punjabi-dominated Pakistani political set-up. ‘Mountains-High’ and ‘Oceans-Deep’ rhetorical flourishes on the ‘China & Pakistan Iron Brothers’ relationship is nothing but a fig-leaf to deceive the unsuspecting people of Pakistan on the true nature of this relationship. Pakistan in 2017 seems to have emerged as yet another Muslim Province of China like Xinjiang.

China’s comprehensive colonisation of Pakistan needs to be examined in as to how far China is in control of Pakistan’s processes of foreign policy, dominance of Pakistan’s economic future and most significantly as to how much China has penetrated the Pakistan Army hierarchy and how deeply the Pakistan Army has been rendered an irreversible military client state of China.

Much propagated in academic and strategic circles is that it is the Pakistan Army which controls Pakistan’s foreign policy towards India and Afghanistan and even major powers like Russia and USA. The truism in 2017 is that the foreign policy of Pakistan towards these countries is being controlled by China, through its proxy, the Pakistan Army. This is said in the sense that Pakistan is made to factor-in China’s strategic sensitivities when Pakistan formulations on India and Afghanistan are made and its attitudinal inclinations towards the Major Powers are determined.

The China-Pakistan Axis is fully in play in 2017 with connivance of Pakistani military and Pakistan political hierarchy and significantly emerges as a crucial determinant in Pakistan’s dealings with USA, India and Afghanistan overturning existing templates. In the same pattern falls the Russian o pivot to Pakistan under China’s influence.

China’s control of Pakistan’s political processes and thought is achieved by its penetrations of the Punjabi-predominant Pakistan Army hierarchy and politicians. Has anyone observed China reaching out politically to Pakistani politicians of other fringe provinces of Pakistan? Why do Pakistani politicians sing hymns of praise for China, had it not been for political gains?

Why does China shield global terrorists like Massod Azhar from being sanctioned by United Nations by China using its veto? Is it not that China has a vested interest n Pakistani Jihadi affiliates of Pakistan Army targeting India? Is it not that by such negativity, China achieves its aims of destabilising India through its colonial proxy, the Pakistan Army?

Pakistani political establishment’s brutal suppression of unrest in Gilgit and Baltistan in the North and even more brutally in Balochistan in the South on the Arabian Sea Coast has more to do with furthering China’s strategic interest in these regions.

China in 2017 has firmly colonised Pakistan in all economic domains extending from power generation, infrastructure development and like the British in India’s colonisation reduced Pakistan to the status of a resources provisioning economy for the Chinese economy.

China’s masterstroke in inducing Pakistan into mortgaging Pakistan’s present and future economic prosperity has been achieved by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s announcement in 2015 of the much flaunted $ 46 billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor (C PEC). Projected by China as a Chinese master blueprint for economic transformation of Pakistan, it is a merely a strategic Chinese blueprint for China’s colonial control of Pakistan in perpetuity, strategically and economically. Pakistan is being made to take heavy loans from Chinese banks at high rates of interest to finance the CPEC and some experts opine that Pakistan would take nearly forty years to pay back Chinese loans.

Notable voices within Pakistan have publicly raised questioning the CPECs economic benefits to Pakistan and pointing out that the virtual and real economic benefits accrue to China. Further, whatever economic benefits that fall within the Pakistani lap are all in favour of Punjabi-dominated Pakistan Amy and the Punjab Province. The CPEC has therefore created political divisions within Pakistan on the classic colonial pattern of ‘divide and rule’. The CPEC alignment predominantly runs through the heartland of Pakistan Punjab.

The Pakistan Army never sold its ‘soul’ to the United States despite decades of United States providing ‘strategic patronship’ to Pakistan and pumping in billions of dollars of aid additionally. In fact, the Pakistan Army in marked ingratitude, all along, double-timed the United States. Contrastingly, the Pakistan Army has noticeably sold its soul to China, even when China has not matched American munificence. More significantly, the Pakistan Army has never dared to double-time China on its strategic interests. The Pakistan Army is fully subservient to Chinese dictates as exemplified by the Pakistan Army assault n Lal Masjid on Chinese dictates, sometime back

If CPEC through which China engirdles Pakistan, or better still, through CPEC the Chinese shackling of Pakistan in perpetuity is achieved by China, then it is the Pakistan Army which is in marked collusion with China to achieve this. The Pakistan Army through two different Army Chiefs has committed itself to be sole provider of security to CPEC through a specially raised Army Division sized force. Not only that, the Pakistan Army has been at odds with the civilian government in that the Pakistan Army wants full control of project-management of the CPEC project by edging out Pakistani civilian agencies. The intentions of the Pakistan Army in furthering China’s strategic interests are suspect?

The Pakistan Army nuclear weapons arsenal and its ballistic missiles arsenal came into existence fully on Chinese technology and assistance and so are its military hardware inventories in 2017. Should in the future Pakistan ever wishes to exit from the Chinese colonial hold, the Pakistan Army would take decades to transform its predominantly Chinese military hardware inventories.

More noticeably, whenever Pakistan is faced with some crisis or a crisis in the making the Pakistan Army Chief of the day rushes to Beijing for consolations, or better still, Chinese mentoring, especially when related to India.

Concluding, it is tragic to observe that the Punjabi-dominated Pakistan Army and the Punjabi-dominated Pakistani political establishment blinded by their pathological hatred for India should have willy-nilly become the handmaidens for China’s comprehensive colonisation of Pakistan. India would be well advised to factor-in this perspective in dealing with Pakistan. India would henceforth not be dealing with Pakistan but with a China-colonised Pakistan where Pakistani national interest would be now a sub-text of China’s strategic stakes in South Asia.

http://www.eurasiareview.com/24042017-pakistan-2017-comprehensively-colonized-by-china-analysis/

This is a very serious and pressing issue. Nightmare scenario for us. Pakistani blinded by hate must have forgotten the British Raj Era. No matter how much we love to bash Pakistan and how many wars we fought against Pakistan, never both of our govt and military targeted civilians and there has been understanding between two states.
But this time they have done something so despicable that we are dumbfounded atleast.
Anyways seems like insanity has taken over Pakistan and they have forgotten the miseries of British Raj,
Now whatever need to be done, will be done. We cannot jeopardize our security and national interest anymore.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

No matter how much we love to bash Pakistan and how many wars we fought against Pakistan, never both of our govt and military targeted civilians and there has been understanding between two states.

I think you are forgetting countless terror attacks on Indian civilians by Pak army sponsored terrorists.

 

[Hiranyaksha]

I think you are forgetting countless terror attacks on Indian civilians by Pak army sponsored terrorists.

No, I haven't. But Carpet bombing on civilian population would have been more devastating.
But as I said earlier , they have changed rules of engagement.

 

[Villager]

China bans overly Islamic names.

Names such as Islam, Quran, Mecca, Jihad, Imam, Saddam, Hajj, and Medina have been banned, RFA said, citing a Chinese Communist Party document titled 'Naming Rules for Ethnic Minorities'.

"[People with banned names] won't be able to get a household registration," a police official from Urumqi, Xinjiang, was quoted as saying.

 

[F-14B]

China bans overly Islamic names.

Names such as Islam, Quran, Mecca, Jihad, Imam, Saddam, Hajj, and Medina have been banned, RFA said, citing a Chinese Communist Party document titled 'Naming Rules for Ethnic Minorities'.

"[People with banned names] won't be able to get a household registration," a police official from Urumqi, Xinjiang, was quoted as saying.

wonder what our resident Rt Honorable Pakistani members have to say about this move about this move by their chadi-buddies the chinks due to the fact that they the Pakistanis call themselves
such bombastic names such as " qila e Islam" and self appointed afwaj e Islam and such affront to a section of the Uhhamat E Islam is nothing short of an affront to the Islamic atami taqqat Pakistan