Pakistani Taliban vow to attack "BJP-backed terror camps in Kashmir"

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they can't do anything against pakistan other than keep crying

we are worried about the indian muslims and possible gujrat kind of riots in future
That is why the minorities are heading towrds extinction in Pakistan.

Buzz off, you hav no moral ground to be even present on this thread. Talk about minorities and their welfare and safety....
 

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Terrorist cannot be termed as muslims even if they claim so

in Islam killing of childrens and old people is banned even in war.
killing of 1 innocent is equal to killing the entire mankind

they might call themselves muslims but they are not
similar to the ahmadias.no matter how much they call themselves muslim.they cant be termed muslims

or if so than the hindu terrorist can be termed as linked to hinduism

otherwise plzz watch video of zakir naik with referrence from hinduism holybook words of one indian God referring for JIHAD

so JIHAD is not only limited to Islam


You have very wonky ideas.....
The other day you were claiming that only by any one saying "La Illahi Il Allaha..." etc one becomes Muslim....

Today your definition of Muslims has changed....

Jakir Naik is a closet Ahmadi and you are quotting him... Naik claims that he is 13th Massiaha.
First decide about your variety of Islam than pontificate on Jihad....Qital Karna hai to Karachi Ja.

Naam sun liya aur Fatwa dena chala...
 

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Terrorist cannot be termed as muslims even if they claim so

so JIHAD is not only limited to Islam


Ha Ha Ha.... even if the terrorist all over the world are Muslims ..

Are you now propogating the idea of Hindu Jihadies ??

Agar Jihad Hindu rah ke kia Ja sakata hai to phir koi Muslamn kyon bane ? ..
 

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Non of then are Muslims i admit, but we cannot run away from the fact that the terror movements which have engulfed the Mid-East, South Asia, Central Asian, North Africa, Parts of South East Asia,(Burma,Thailand,Philippines,Indonesia) and the Caucasus not to mention the radicalization of the Immigrant Muslim youth in western nations is a Islamic phenomena. And i do not understand why many people get surprised at increasing Hindu extremism after all this is in reaction to ever increasing Islamic extremism and for that matter minority appeasement that blatantly goes on in India by the Congress and its Allies. In Pakistan the political calls appease the Majority and in India it is the other way around, as far as the Pakistani Taliban threat to launch jihad against India in Kashmir are concerned let them join the band,(LeT,JeM,HuA,HuM,HM,ISI,Pakistani Army,JuD,) we have been fighting them since 1989 the only difference this time will the addition of Pakistani Taliban in the body bag count along with their Punjabi Counterparts. :dharma:
 

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What is this?What is true?

Shitday ki aisi ki taisi.

True lies of Sushil Kumar Shinde - The New Indian Express

True lies of Sushil Kumar Shinde
By S Gurumurthy
24th January 2013 07:04 AM

"The RSS and the BJP were behind the Samjhauta Express, Mecca Masjidand Malegaon blasts," declared Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde on January 20, 2012, adding that the training camps run by the RSS and BJP were promoting 'Hindu terrorism'. A day after Shinde's declaration, Hafiz Saeed, leader of the LeT, the Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist outfit, called for a ban on the RSS. So Shinde is the witness for the LeT to accuse the RSS of terror. Now look at the evidence, first the blast onboard the Samjhauta Expressfrom Pakistan in which 68 persons were killed.

LeT Culprit, say UN, US

"Qasmani Arif...chief coordinator of the relations of the [LeT] with other organisations...has worked with Lashkar-e-Tayyiba to facilitate terrorist attacks including...the bombing of February 2007 in the Samjhauta Express in Panipat (India)." This is what resolution [No 1267] of the Committee on Sanctions of the United Nations Security Council [UNSC] dated 29.6.2009 declares. Adding that Qasmani was funded by Dawood Ibrahim and he did the fundraising for the LeT and the al-Qaida, the UNSC said, "In exchange for their support, al-Qaida provided support staff for the February 2007 bombing of the Samjhauta Express in Panipat." This resolution is available on the UN site. Two days later, on July 1, 2009, the United States Treasury Department said in its press release: "Arif Qasmani has worked with the LeT to facilitate terrorist attacks, including...Samjota Express bombing." The US named four Pakistanis, including Arif Qasmani as terrorists, under Executive Order No 13224. This pressrelease is still on the US Treasury site. The United Nations Security Council and the US Treasury Department thus named the LeT, Qasmani and Dawood Ibrahim as accused in Samjhauta terror. This is just the beginning of the torrent of evidence pointing to the LeT and Pakistan.

Pakistan Minister's Confession

Six months after the UN and US announced sanctions against the LeTand Qasmani, Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Mallik himself admitted that Pakistani terrorists were involved in the Samjhauta blast, but with a rider that "some Pakistan-based Islamists had been hired by Lt Col Purohit to carry out the Samjhauta Express attack." [India Today Online 24.1.2010]

Headley Involved in Samjhauta -- US Probe

Not just the UN. Or the US Treasury. Or just the admission of Pakistan's Interior Minister. Independent investigation in the US revealed more. Some 10 months later, Sebastian Rotella, a US journalist, wrote in his investigative report titled 'U.S. agencies were forewarned about suspect in 2008 Mumbai bombings', that Faiza Outalha, the third wife of David Coleman Headley had confessed [in 2008, which was made public in 2010] that Headley was involved in the Samjhauta blast. Rotella added that Faiza felt that "she had been innocently used" in the Samjhauta terror. [The Washington Post 5.11.2010] A while later, in a follow up investigation, Sebastian Rotella disclosed in April 2008 that Faiza returned to the embassy in Islamabad with the tip about the 2008 Mumbai blast when she again linked him to the Samjhauta blast.

Rotella commented that though India and the US blamed the attack on Lashkar, the US authorities had not implicated Headley in that still-unsolved attack, however.[The Washington Post 14.11.2010] So, independent, neutral probe in the USalso pointed to Pakistan and the LeT in Samjhauta blast.

Narco Test Pointed to SIMI Role

Even at the start of the Samjhauta investigation in 2007, the evidence clearly pointed to the role of the Students Islamic Movement of India [SIMI] and the LeT. India Today [19.9.2008] in its report titled 'Pak hand in Mumbai train blasts, Samjhauta Express blasts, says Nagori' gave meticulous account of the involvement of the LeT and Pakistan in the Samjhauta terror. The report was based on narco test testimonies of SIMI leaders. India Today said that the narcotic tests were carried out on general secretary of SIMI, Safdar Nagori; his brother Kamruddin Nagori and Amil Parvez in Bangalore in April 2007, three months after the Samjhauta blast; the results of the narco test of the SIMI leaders were available with the magazine; it revealed that SIMI activists had executed the Samjhauta blast, with the help of thePakistani nationals from across the border; while Nagori was not directly involved, two members of SIMI, Ehtesham Siddiqui and Nasir, were directly involved; SIMI members, including Nagori's brotherKamaruddin, were involved in the Samjhatua blast; for executing the Samjhauta blast, the Pakistanis had purchased the suitcase cover from Kataria Market in Indore and one of the members from SIMI had helped the Pakistanis to get the suitcase cover stitched. Investigation had established that in the Samjhauta blast, five bombs packed in suitcasesand activated by timer switches were used.

Conspiracy by Maharashtra Police?

Why were these clinching pieces of evidence not pursued? How the blame shifted from the Islamists to the Hindus? Some elements in the Maharashtra Police appears to have colluded in linking the 2008 Malegaon blast to the Samjhauta blast. When leads were thus pointing to Pakistan and SIMI as partners in the Samjhauta blast in November 2008, as an anti-climax, the Maharashtra Anti-Terror Squad [ATS] shockingly told the Special Court through the public prosecutor that Col Purohit allegedly involved inthe Malegaon blast in which RDX was used, had supplied RDX for the Samjhauta blast though one 'Bhagwan'. [The Indian Express 15.11.2008] Within the next 48 hours, [17.11.2009] India Today online refuted the ATS claim saying that Samjhauta investigators had told India Today that a study of the blast by the National Security Guard(NSG) said that no RDX, but Potassium Chlorate and Sulphur, had been used as explosives. The magazine also recalled that immediately after the blasts, then Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil told the media that not RDX, but, a 'new type of explosive' had been used to bomb the Samjhauta Express. On that very day [17.11.2009] the ATS counsel retracted the statement he had made earlier involving Col Purohit in the Samjhauta blast. [The Hindu dt19.11.2008]. But the damage was done in the 48 hours. Immediately, Pakistan said that it would raise the issue of Purohit's involvement in Samjhauta at the Secretary-level meeting on November 25, 2008. Finally on January 20, 2009, the Maharashtra ATS officially denied that Col Purohit had supplied RDX forSamjhauta. This was how the Samjhauta focus -- later the blame -- shifted from the LeT and the SIMI to Purohit and via Purohit on to Saffron. The Maharashtra ATS' attempt to link Malegaon 2008 to Samjhauta, which shifted the focus away from the LeT on to Purohit, needs to be probed particularly given Dawood Ibrahim's deep influence on Maharashtra Police.

If Shinde is telling the truth, then the United Nations Security Council and the US Treasury Department are fabricating charges against Qasmani,Dawood and the LeT; Faiza Outallah and The Washington Post are telling lies to fix the LeT and Pakistan; the SIMI officials' narco evidence is fabricated; and Rehman Mallik's confession about Pakistani involvement is false. Can it be more ridiculous? It is clearly the lies of Shinde, the vote bank politician versus all neutral evidence. If this was how the Samjhauta probe was perverted, in the Malegaon 2006 blast the Maharashtra ATS has filed a chargesheet where the SIMI cadre had confessed to their role in the blast. But the CBI is procuring confessions to exonerate them and implicate others, Hindus in the case. So Malegaon 2006, is becoming a case of confession vs confession! In Malegaon 2008 blasts, Col Purohit and his associates have been charged and the evidence submitted in the Court shows that the accused in the Malegaon 2008 case were planning to assassinate RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat and Indresh Kumar for taking money from the ISI! [Outlook 19.7.2010] How could the RSS which is the target of the conspirator itself be the conspirator?Does Shinde know what he is talking?

QED: Shinde now has a good companion in his mission against the RSS in Hafeez Saeed, boss of the global terror outfit LeT. Can a Home Minister tell more deadly lies againsthis own country's interests, all for just a few million votes?

S Gurumurthy is a well-known commentator on political and economic issues.
 

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Terrorists & right wing groups are not the same thing. So even thinking of putting Indian right wing org/parties with these Paki terror organisation is an insult and plain stupidity.

Remember these pakis would want any excuse to blow some buildings or kill people, inlog ka pesha hai ye, killing.
 

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see what happens when we elect gaddars to the govts...

Sham on you congis and their supports... what have you done to this country.... jab desh ke neta hi desh ko bechne niklenge to desh ke dushmano ko kese dosh de sakte hai.....

@Farhan... its seems paki ISI using its one of the hand to write the speech for TTP.....
 

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col.purohit was muslim i guess than?

modi is also a muslim responsible for killing 20k muslims?
Who burned godhra train ? that was the start of riot , what u people think because ur muslim only u have right to attack & kill ?

If the table are turned u cry :taunt:

after 2014 real faceoff is awaiting , wait till that:thumb:
 

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indeed

the reason indian muslims hate him so much
Indian muslim hate him ?:taunt:

Is Irfan pathan a Zionist hindu Brahmin ?

 

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they can't do anything against pakistan other than keep crying

we are worried about the indian muslims and possible gujrat kind of riots in future
Which side is known for crying, let me remind you as your memory is weak 1948(Second Indo-Pakistani War), 1965(Second Indo-Pakistani War) 1971(Bangladesh), 1984(Siachen), 1999(Kargil).

Worried about Indian Mulims :lol: from a nation that cannot keep itself afloat, once again your weak memory needs a jolt 1971(Bangladesh atrocities), Pakistan army massacre in Balochistan (since 1948), Pakistan's Shia genocide, Massacre and Discrimination of Minority Ahmadis (State sponsored anti - Ahmadis legislation). First stop all of the above then think about others. :dharma:
 

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Hindu terrorism and there direct influence on the GOI is the reason behind the tension between these 2 countries.
Hafiz saeed is Hindu ? I didn't knew that breaking news :thumb:
 

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they can't do anything against pakistan other than keep crying

we are worried about the indian muslims and possible gujrat kind of riots in future
Then why u people being muslims killed muslims in East pakistan?, if u people have what it takes do the same what we did in 1971 or be happy crying around

Worried about Indian muslims from when did beggers started worrying about owners :taunt: . Very funny there is famous hospital in Bangalore specialised in curing mental illness may be u have to pay a visit i will pay doctor fees don't worry come down
 

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PESHAWAR: Pakistani Taliban have said the UN bodies and the United States should stop the "BJP-sponsored state terrorism in Kashmir," otherwise the TTP has the ability to strike inside Indian-administered Kashmir.

Speaking to Dawn.Com on Wednesday, the TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said that the Indian Home Minister's statement regarding BJP-backed terrors camps is an open confession that Hindu extremists are being patronized under the state's authority for killing innocent Kashmiri Muslims.

"The US and UN should also order drone strikes and coalition troops invasion, to target these terror camps, which are mentioned by the Indian minister of fanning Hindu terrorism," said Ehsan.

"If the US and the UN could not take care of the state-sponsored-terrorism in Kashmir and the BJP/RSS terrorism against Muslims in India, then TTP has the ability to strike and take care of it."

Indian Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde had accused the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and its ideological mentor the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) on Sunday of promoting Hindu terrorism, which in turn was responsible for the fatal bombings of the Samjhauta Express among other Muslim targets.

To a query, Ehsan declared the present jihad in Indian-administered Kashmir as "merely a drama" and talked about a "practical jihad" for freedom of the Kashmiri Muslims.

About launching attacks on the BJB and RSS terror camps, the TTP spokesman said, "Soon everyone will realise how much ability they (TTP) have and how they are going to strike both, Indian state terrorism centers and the Hindu terrorists organisations."

Pakistani Taliban vow to attack "BJP-backed terror camps in Kashmir" | Pakistan | DAWN.COM
But you have to worry about these men in uniform , they are not beggers like Paki armed force whom u have bought :lol:

 
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Hindu terrorism and there direct influence on the GOI is the reason behind the tension between these 2 countries.
and here I was thinking that attacks by possible foreign state actors on India parliment and cities, to name but a few, may also have contributed to this 'tension'!!

Reminds me of a saying, I am unsure of the author, but it goes something like this" none so blind as those who dont want to see"
 

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And we are worried about all Mulims inside Pakistan who are being killed and maimed by thousands by all kinds of things by drones, Hellfires, bombs, IEDs, Artillary bombs, air bombs, by cutting their throats like Halal, on the Frontier posts, in Karachi, Hydrabad, Peshwar, Baluchistan, NWFP in Punjab, in Northern Areas......

You being neighbours, it stinks and the foul smell comes to India !!
and we are trying our level best to stop this

and don't lie your not worried about pakistani muslims
it has been proven time to time that indian establishment hate Pakistan because they are muslims not because we are rivals

the reason only 2% of the army troops are muslims
 

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That is why the minorities are heading towrds extinction in Pakistan.

Buzz off, you hav no moral ground to be even present on this thread. Talk about minorities and their welfare and safety....
being proven wrong and wrong

majority of the hindus in pakistan were in east pakistan and were bengali by origin

with partition they left with bangladesh
 

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You have very wonky ideas.....
The other day you were claiming that only by any one saying "La Illahi Il Allaha..." etc one becomes Muslim....

Today your definition of Muslims has changed....

Jakir Naik is a closet Ahmadi and you are quotting him... Naik claims that he is 13th Massiaha.
First decide about your variety of Islam than pontificate on Jihad....Qital Karna hai to Karachi Ja.

Naam sun liya aur Fatwa dena chala...
i never said so.

It means only that "There is no God but Allah".

complete kalma is

"There is no God but Allah and Muhammad(pbuh) is the messenger of Allah"

and plzz care to read about the Ahmadia's as well they are completely deluded.

Zakir naik is not a ahmadi he has just quoted the statements from hinduism religious books
neither he claims he's a messiah.the only messiah to come is Jesus(pbuh) as per sunni Islam while shia brother consider it as Imam mahdi(if i am not wrong)

Ahmadia's doesnt consider Muhammad(pbuh) as the last prophet.how can you call them muslim>
 

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see what happens when we elect gaddars to the govts...

Sham on you congis and their supports... what have you done to this country.... jab desh ke neta hi desh ko bechne niklenge to desh ke dushmano ko kese dosh de sakte hai.....

@Farhan... its seems paki ISI using its one of the hand to write the speech for TTP.....
ISI is being made off Army officials.and Army is busy fighting them

they are killing our soldier,beheading them and you think ISI is supporting them?hats off to indian media for brainwashing you

your govt is way too better than what we have at the moment.if we had musharaf kind of agressive person in charge.

indian k warning parr kab k hum abhi jang ma hote
 

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and here I was thinking that attacks by possible foreign state actors on India parliment and cities, to name but a few, may also have contributed to this 'tension'!!

Reminds me of a saying, I am unsure of the author, but it goes something like this" none so blind as those who dont want to see"
wasnt samjhota blast also termed to be by non state actors from pakistan?
what happened than?
you know very well
 

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