Pakistan meme bank

HariNalwa

Regular Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2019
Messages
23
Likes
95
WoW, without any clue you become judgemental and passing your baseless judgment about my oxford linkage,
from Global point of view I can understand it is not your problem but Nationalism in India is forced behind to driving fake news. Mainstream news outlets pushed people to spread information from alternative sources, without attempting to verify it, in the belief that they were helping to spread the real story. Indian People were also overly confident in their ability and It's not that you have had an intolerance for honesty, but do have an alarming tolerance for dishonesty. This deeply rooted cultural behavior comes from a desire to be polite on fake information spreading into your socetity. This tolerance for dishonesty is holding India back from realising its full potential in the world.
Why do you keep changing topics after continually getting humiliated.

You want to talk about lies , nationalists , over confidence , dis-honesty then get ready to be humiliated again.

Pak govt, media, public are full of layers upon layers of lies.

1. Pak lies about it's history, genetics somehow linking it with Arabs and Persians whereas in reality many are result of Central Asian, mainly Mongolian armies raping locals. Mongolian rulers and army choosing to speak Persian does not make Pakis of Persian ancestry.

2. Pak lies about 1971 and continues to make up stories and give excuses about it even though they clearly lost nearly half the population and nearly third landmass. It is called Bangladesh, please look it up.

3. Pak lies about it's currency. Go to any open market in Pakistan and try sell your PKR and buy USD for govt rate of 141. Blatant lie and manipulation at highest scale affecting whole country, and public is oblivious to it.

4. Pak ministry lies. week ago on this very forum there was news that number of key PK ministers would be culled and govt portfolio would be reshuffled. Now look at PK news from that time, dismmising everything. A week later Finance minister has resigned and number of changes are happening.

5. Hypocritical stance on Kashmir and Palestine versus Ughyur Muslims. No condemnation of Chinese PLA actions enslaving millions there.

6. Lies about Balochistan and other Provinces. They clearly are wanting freedom and separation. PK Very vocal for UN to hold referendum in Kashmir, but not in Hazara community, Baloch , kalash regions.

7. Lies about Islam being religion of peace and equality. Continually harassing non Muslim or minority comnunities. Hazara, Shias, Baloch, Kailash, Ahmaadiyas, list goes on. The Quran and hadith are full of hate , prejudice and discrimination of all sorts and do not see Muslim and non-muslims as equal and it shows at every level ok PK speech actions and behaviours.

PS. I was being sarcastic and mocking you, and instead you have taken it personally as though you really are some sort of Rhodes scholar mistaken for one from Oxford.. geez..

"...first we had group of uneducated goatf#ckers and now we have their principal Sahab MrOxford Pakistan himself writing long winded non-sense proses depicting nothing.."
 

Indx TechStyle

Kitty mod
Mod
Joined
Apr 29, 2015
Messages
18,288
Likes
56,242
Country flag
Well Cognitive Dissonance Helps Explain Why We Hate To Hear The Truth and same with you and this group.

Most people say 'yes' when asked if they want to hear the truth. In fact, 88% of employees say they would want to hear the truth if their job performance was poor. And yet, how many people do you know who, after slaving away on a big project, is grateful when the boss says, "That report you wrote was illogical, poorly written, two hours late, and riddled with typos"? I've witnessed adults who insist they can handle the truth cry, rant, and even punch the walls upon hearing truth like that. same is the situation is here in this forum, no matter how good I represent the Indian reality but people give likes to you so my theory about the tolerance of dishonesty in Indian society and fake news propaganda is hence proved here in this forum. it is not my humiliation but you guys who can't able to handle the truth but throwing some baseless non-sense without any linkage to the truth. Truth is always a truth, you can't change lie into truth by your fake news this is the natural phenomenon. Truth life is long lasting and forever whereas lie just has a few days of life.
That must apply on truth also which is harsh and would be termed as even "hate speech" by some groups.

Ever since you've started posting here, you haven't been objective clear even once.

You're just spinning it around for "Indian reality" and "dishonesty" (called so by you) but that "reality" doesn't comply with statistically and factually well known things so far.
The kind of rumors regrading confrontation have a basis, aren't confirmed and more likely than other way around given the balance of power on both sides.

Now, if you stop spinning it with your cryptic lectures, pick a situation and engage in a discussion with me.
 

indiatester

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Messages
5,856
Likes
20,249
Country flag
what a indian lie of 1971 93000 troops surrender ..But the funny thing is: Pakistan, in December 1971, could not have more than 45,000 soldiers on ground in former east-Pakistan. So where the magical figure of 93,000 came from?
Undisputed fact is that Pakistan had only one corps comprising three divisions in East Pakistan during 1971. In fact when operation search light began on 25th March, 1971, the total number of Pakistani troops on ground were around 27,000. More troops were sent from west Pakistan but they had to arrive through a long circuitous route since India had blocked air route over India taking advantage of the famous “Ganga Hijacking Case” (believed to be a false flag planned by RAW for this purpose)
The three divisions, of Pakistan army, by end November 1971, comprised a total force of 45,000, on books, including combatant and non-combatant troops. Out of these, there were 34,000 combatant troops and the remaining 11,000 were non-combatants, supporting men and CAF personnel. But between six to seven thousand Pakistani soldiers died in the war also.
This one corp was pitched against three corps of Indian Army from the West and North West and another two corps from the North East and East, a total of five Indian Corps plus 175,000 Indian backed and trained Mukti Bahini and many thousands of Awami League miscreants. When the total number of Pakistan army troops ranged between 34,000 to 45,000 how could 93,000 soldiers surrender?
Whereas my research shows that they were only around 34,000 but in any case they could not have been more than 40,000. The number of 93,000 soldiers that is talked about has been conflated with civilians. West Pakistani civilians who were present in large numbers in former East-Pakistan were taken over into custody by Indian army to protect them from revengeful Bengali crowds and Mukit Bahni.

The figure of 93,000 also included children, women, civil administration officials and staff, non-combatant troops such as nurses, doctors, cooks, barbers, shoemakers, carpenters and others. The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of.
The total figure, a mix of soldiers and civilians was deliberately floated by Indians, and later by Bangladeshis to support their case for victimization. In Pakistan, a clever Bhutto used this for various reasons of his own politics. No one ever wanted to clarify. In reality, the actual number of Pakistani troops who surrendered on 16th December 1971 was only around 34,000.
This is a stamp released by GoP. Go ask them about the numbers.


 

White Wolf

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2019
Messages
187
Likes
450
Country flag
this stamp release and showing the figure of 90000 also included children, women, civil administration officials and staff, non-combatant troops such as nurses, doctors, cooks, barbers, shoemakers, carpenters, and others.who were present in large numbers in former East-Pakistan were taken over into custody by Indian army to protect them from revengeful Bengali crowds and Mukti Bahni.
The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize the Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of an Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by the Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of. If you disagree then Pak Army is SuperNatural army because as per Indian Propaganda there were accused of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. WoW, Lot of meat in this story, recall me some Indian IT resume, cooked with stuff and when you put these guys in action, feel same like as what happen two IAF plan shoot down by PAF
2 IAF planes???? You guys only managed to shot down a 1960's Mog-21 relic and that too after loosing an F-16 at the hands of IAF. This is where the inbreeding starts from, you jokers only know fake history and twisted facts and this goes on for generations. This is the result why your entire country is fucked up and the Chinese are still pounding you by sweet talks. The thing is you dumfucks never learned from history nor will ever learn. This is the sad reality of your failed state.
 

indiatester

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Messages
5,856
Likes
20,249
Country flag
this stamp release and showing the figure of 90000 also included children, women, civil administration officials and staff, non-combatant troops such as nurses, doctors, cooks, barbers, shoemakers, carpenters, and others.who were present in large numbers in former East-Pakistan were taken over into custody by Indian army to protect them from revengeful Bengali crowds and Mukti Bahni.
The higher number talked about was a deliberate attempt to defame and demoralize the Pakistani army, to demonstrate to the world extent of an Indian victory. It was also helpful in putting meat to the story of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. An army of less than 40,000, spread over a large theatre of conflict under attack from guerrillas supported by the Indian army was hardly in a situation of doing what it was accused of. If you disagree then Pak Army is SuperNatural army because as per Indian Propaganda there were accused of three million killed, hundreds and thousands of rapes and genocide. WoW, Lot of meat in this story, recall me some Indian IT resume, cooked with stuff and when you put these guys in action, feel same like as what happen two IAF plan shoot down by PAF
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/south_asia/2002/india_pakistan/timeline/1971.stm
In December India invaded East Pakistan in support of the East Pakistani people. The Pakistani army surrendered at Dhaka and its army of more than 90,000 became Indian prisoners of war.
If you believe that your army had less than 40000 soldiers to protect Bangladesh, then you must be more worried.

The 3 million killed was from independent sources. Your commissions and rulers may tell you otherwise. You are free to not question them on their defeat and ask us questions on a few numbers here and there. If that satisfies your ego, good for you. I'm not going to try and convince you. You might have as well won the war and you might still be having East Pakistan.
 

Brahmos_ii

Regular Member
Joined
May 12, 2018
Messages
98
Likes
402
Country flag
India, the land that gave birth to four religions and enshrined both secularism and free speech in its constitution, has been having a curious debate these past few weeks: Has the world's biggest democracy become an intolerant nation? I think Pakistan wants peace with India and both should focus on health and poverty. I think both nation do not believe in war and want to solve problems through dialogue. begin a comprehensive dialogue to address and resolve all issues.
Did any where we say we are not okay with talk, only condition is just drop the shield to terrorists and hand over our wanted list of guys, then talk about TALKS
 

Indx TechStyle

Kitty mod
Mod
Joined
Apr 29, 2015
Messages
18,288
Likes
56,242
Country flag
wow, India is denying the Pentagon report from Foreign Policy stating that U.S. government officials inventoried Pakistan’s Viper fleet and found that none of them were missing.
India never denied it, in fact not even commented on it.

It's Pentagon who came out in public to reject this. If any count had happened, it would have been Pakistan or LM who would report first and not a random article from a nascent journo quoting her "unnamed" sources.
Go through her Twitter, the girl could not defend what she said for more than two posts and was proved technical incompetent even on defense matters. She finally had to admit.

Ironically, these are you guys who have again portrayed dishonesty yet calling us out. Pathetically, you are still doing that.

By the way, F-16 matters have been discussed to death already on this forum.

If you try to reboot your dysfunctional brain and search around main threads for date, you will come to know how honest we are.

We are DEFENSE ENTHUSIASTS, not some random keyboard warriors. If we said something, means we have proofs, basis and logics. And UNLIKE YOU WHO WRITES SAME THING OVER AND OVER EVEN AFYER GETTING PROVED WRONG.
 

Sanglamorre

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2019
Messages
5,731
Likes
26,328
Country flag
wow, India is denying the Pentagon report from Foreign Policy stating that U.S. government officials inventoried Pakistan’s Viper fleet and found that none of them were missing. MiG 21 Bison, hit by Sqn Leader Hassan Siddiqui, had crashed on Pakistani Side of the line of control while second IAF fighter jet Sukhoi Su-30, which was downed by wing commander Nauman Ali Khan landed on Indian side, India for its part, agrees that as second plane was shot down - but as usual Indian dishonesty and lying media claiming it was Pakistani plane, make me serious lough what a blunt lie in front of entire world, bring respectful IAF professional soldier to use for political gains ..don't use professional IAF and tranche their image in front of world. avoid using politics tactics in Indian army. these people sacrificing their lives for the sovereignty of India.
Like they said already, inbred Pakistani will be inbred Pakistani. Pentagon itself denied any such counting. I guess you thought we were inbred enough to not know this or were you yourself not aware of this?
 

Sanglamorre

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2019
Messages
5,731
Likes
26,328
Country flag
if you read history , becuase of bengal , indian history suffer 200 years of slavery of english people ..
Geography is Kadr (Fate) - Ibn-i Haldun (The true Father of the Modern Political Science. Machiavelli wrote his epic "The Prince" based on his work Mukaddema)
Historically speaking, Bengal has always been an invader's paradise!!! For example, only 17 Turkic horsemen just rode through Bengal and conquered it without chopping a single head off!!! The British East India Company defeated 70K strong Army of the Nawab of Bengal with only 200 British soldiers aided by 2,800 South Indian mercenaries!!! The entire Army of the Nawab stood idle due to the treachery of the top generals, ministers, bureaucrats, Marwari businessmen etc. The entire command structure of the current BD Army has been destroyed as soldiers rampantly kill their officers with a mindset like - soldiers are brothers to one another, we want the blood of the officer!!! If the Burmese Army marches even up to to Dhaka not a single folk will fire a single shot with a single air gun to protest!!!! As such, I would rather say Pak has somehow saved her skin with a minimal loss!!! BD isn't worth fighting for...
Yeah and you conveniently forgot that Bengal also birthed Netaji who had the balls to land an Indian Army in British India when most Congress leaders were sucking Brit dick.

You also forget that Bengal also had so many armed revolutionaries that bombed the shit out of British that they were forced to shift the capital to Delhi.

You also forget people like Surya Sen who fucking took over British armouries and fought the Brits.

Lastly, you forget Mukti Bahini who fucked Pakistani so bad that you have to now go sour grapes.

Lastly, Bangladesh is now performing far better than you in every aspect. I'd say it's them who did well cutting off that gangrenous organ that is Pakistan.
 

Haldiram

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2018
Messages
5,708
Likes
28,648
Country flag
if you read history , becuase of bengal , indian history suffer 200 years of slavery of english people ..
Geography is Kadr (Fate) - Ibn-i Haldun (The true Father of the Modern Political Science. Machiavelli wrote his epic "The Prince" based on his work Mukaddema)
Historically speaking, Bengal has always been an invader's paradise!!! For example, only 17 Turkic horsemen just rode through Bengal and conquered it without chopping a single head off!!! The British East India Company defeated 70K strong Army of the Nawab of Bengal with only 200 British soldiers aided by 2,800 South Indian mercenaries!!! The entire Army of the Nawab stood idle due to the treachery of the top generals, ministers, bureaucrats, Marwari businessmen etc. The entire command structure of the current BD Army has been destroyed as soldiers rampantly kill their officers with a mindset like - soldiers are brothers to one another, we want the blood of the officer!!! If the Burmese Army marches even up to to Dhaka not a single folk will fire a single shot with a single air gun to protest!!!! As such, I would rather say Pak has somehow saved her skin with a minimal loss!!! BD isn't worth fighting for...
If you had so much wisdom, why didn't you put it to good use in 71 and win the war instead of spewing it here 5 decades later?

Don't worry about all these things now, take your Polio drops on time.
 

Joker

Regular Member
Joined
May 30, 2017
Messages
566
Likes
1,866
Country flag
rolf -Indian narrative falling apart - you are mistaken that tyou can fool foreign aviation experts with your tricks.
The IAF briefing mentions nothing about Mirages which were used for H2/H4 SOW's. They state that only Jf17 used in north AJK and only F16's used over the rest of the area.

The proof of use of H2/H4 is available in OSINT with the rockets on either side falling in AJK field in South Kashmir. Can they be used with any F16's? I don't think so. If their awacs can't even identify a 40 year old plane in the sky, how can it be so sure of shooting down an F16.



F-16D is the lie claim by IAF. Reasons why PAF F16 was never shot down are ample:

1. IAF has similarly declined to share the intercepted radio communications themselves or a transcript thereof, making it impossible to independently verify the claims. "Due to security and confidentiality concerns, we are restricting the information being shared in public domain,” IAF Air Vice Marshal Kapoor said during the briefing

2. It's also worth pointing out that India has not provided any evidence of the F-16 shoot down beyond the radar track "vanishing." Kapoor only showed two still radar images, as well. Without having more data and context, we have no way of knowing conclusively that the contact disappeared and never reappeared or that it was an F-16, to begin with.

3. Electronic warfare and the limitations of the airborne early warning and control system could have been factors, as well.

4.The mountainous terrain and other ground clutter may have masked the Viper's radar signatures temporarily and the fighter could have dropped into the "doppler notch" of the airborne radar system. There are so many possible explanations that cannot be ruled out without more information and at the very least, full motion video of the tactical picture, not just a few hand-picked screenshots.

5. There is no indication that Pakistan launched any combat search and rescue effort to recover the crew of the purportedly downed F-16, which one might have expected to see, either. There is an unsubstantiated report that a group of civilians on the ground lynched a Pakistani pilot after his plane got shot down, mistaking him for an Indian aviator, but this is incredibly hard to believe.

6. Pakistan has also released images of portions of Russian-made R-73 Archer and R-77 Adder missiles it recovered from the MiG-21 crash site as evidence that Varthaman never got off a shot. The remains of one of the close-range R-73s, which numerous reports say was the weapon that brought down the F-16, consists of just elements of the rocket motor and seeker head, raising questions about this claim.

7. There are reports that the export agreement also limited the functionality of key systems and the PAF’s ability to service major components independently. There have also been rumors of tracking devices or additional systems that would allow American authorities to remotely disable the aircraft or certain systems, if necessary.

8. Asia Times subsequently reported that Pakistani officials, also speaking on the condition of anonymity, had also said an American audit had taken place and involved sending all of the Vipers to PAF Base Mushaf in Sargodha, which is home of the PAF’s Central Air Command. After that report came out, Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan had taken to Twitter to slam India's claims of having shot down an F-16.

9. Furthermore, it's unclear why India waited more than a month to release this latest information, which still does not conclusively prove that the IAF shot down an F-16 in any tangible way.

10. On Feb. 28, 2019, just a day after the aerial brawl, Indian authorities publicly showed the AIM-120C-5 fragment, which did offer compelling evidence that Pakistani Vipers had, at least, taken part in the operation overall. Which actually proves PAF F16 were using which could be defensive missile fires rather it ever proved F16 was lost.

11. No video evidence or flight data shown by IAF that F16 was the actual plane shot down.

12. Count of F16 has been accounted for by US Defense Officials as provided by FP report.
Arre suar... Bhag yaha se
Canadian paki, who lives like scum in Canada and spreads his filth even there
 

garg_bharat

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2015
Messages
5,078
Likes
10,139
Country flag
India’s public sphere was the first to erupt with war cries. “Mess with the best,” declared one aged Bollywood action hero on Twitter, “die like the rest.” Even the few commentators ostensibly wary of Narendra Modi, India’s Hindu nationalist prime minister, succumbed to patriotic bloodlusts. India’s leading television channels vied with each other in urging more bombings and broadcasting transparently fake footage of the attack.
The cruel lesson from recent days for Modi and his reckless cheerleaders should be clear: They have catastrophically lost a sense of reality while replacing political processes -- in Kashmir and with Pakistan -- with image-making.
History has shown, from Vietnam to shock-and-awe campaigns in Iraq, that image-making through violence belongs, in the huge arsenal of human follies recorded in history. It is, ominously, the tactic that Modi, unmoored from real-world objectives and goals and trapped by his own bellicose rhetoric, has deployed against a nuclear-armed neighbor. One can only hope, as Pakistan predictably retaliates, that he knows when to stop.
You guys are very good in copying sentences from Western writers. Plagiarism at best.
Please teach more Pakistani to read. Even reading is half the mission accomplished.
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top