Pakis At It Again : India Had Allocated 500 Million Dollars To Sabotage 'pak-china Economic Corridor

[Screambowl]

This is the planned CPEC route and projects.

 

[blueblood]

There will be no Central or Western route. Kings of Punjab are not going to share "development funds" with KPK or Balochistan. Also Chinese have agreed on the Eastern route with dreams of exporting gas and electricity to India. Hence the proximity with Indian border is not ringing alarm bells in Paki establishment.

This will also serve as the biggest "fuck you" sign from Punjab (read Lahore) to rest of the country especially KPK since the original proposed route was the Western route with no Lahore or Multan. Also Karachi with its largest concentration of Pathans will be a good place to start.

And that will be East Pakistan redux. So, I suggest grab some popcorn and wait for things to go boom.

 

[Screambowl]

There will be no Central or Western route. Kings of Punjab are not going to share "development funds" with KPK or Balochistan. Also Chinese have agreed on the Eastern route with dreams of exporting gas and electricity to India. Hence the proximity with Indian border is not ringing alarm bells in Paki establishment.

This will also serve as the biggest "fuck you" sign from Punjab (read Lahore) to rest of the country especially KPK since the original proposed route was the Western route with no Lahore or Multan. Also Karachi with its largest concentration of Pathans will be a good place to start.

And that will be East Pakistan redux. So, I suggest grab some popcorn and wait for things to go boom.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/892773/...in-trade-route-would-weaken-federation-imran/

“Changes in the corridor are likely to stoke hatred of Punjab in other provinces,” said the party chief while addressing journalists at the inauguration ceremony of a girls school in Douranpur area of the city on Tuesday.

He added the opportunity of the corridor should be used to bring all federating units of the country together instead of shoving them aside like the Sharif brothers have done by considering Punjab the entirety of Pakistan.

Decrying the Centre’s decisions, Imran said the federal government has allotted only 20% of development funds to the province which are not sufficient to complete major projects in K-P. For instance, he added, the Chashma Right Bank Canal and Lowari Tunnel are in limbo due to delay in payments from the Centre.

A few days ago, Minister for Information Mushtaq Ghani announced Imran would not be attending public meetings in K-P till LG polls conclude. The announcement came after ECP barred Imran from holding public gatherings ahead of polls. However, at the school inauguration Imran said he has been allowed to resume his political activities.

 

[aliyah]

y do india will spend 500mil $ to sabotage the project ? when Pakistani rulers r working very hard to sabotage Pakistan.
explanation :
1) its a 46bil$ project. out of which 11 bil $ will be given as loan to Pakistan at 18%.
100 paki rs=1$.so the interest they need to pay every yr will be roughly 20,000cr rs
( a bankrupt country with additional expenditure )
2) China all weather friend is investing heavily so Chinese good or any thing coming frm china wont pay any excess fees at any point in Pakistan
long term impact:- Pakistani industries will be shut down as no country in world even india can't compete with cheap Chinese goods
3)all contracts will be awarded to Chinese companies
4)all engineering n high lvl jobs will be done by Chinese in this project.lots of job will be created for Pakistani majdoors.
and many more.......etc etc

This is the biggest fdi investment in the history of Pakistan.... but did paki govt disclosed full deal to paki ppls??...nop
then how to keep it secret?? just change the view...this project is so beneficial that india want to sabotage it....raw given 500 mil $ and will give more bil $ to dig potholes )

 

[ezsasa]

y do india will spend 500mil $ to sabotage the project ? when Pakistani rulers r working very hard to sabotage Pakistan.
explanation :
1) its a 46bil$ project. out of which 11 bil $ will be given as loan to Pakistan at 18%.
100 paki rs=1$.so the interest they need to pay every yr will be roughly 20,000cr rs
( a bankrupt country with additional expenditure )
2) China all weather friend is investing heavily so Chinese good or any thing coming frm china wont pay any excess fees at any point in Pakistan
long term impact:- Pakistani industries will be shut down as no country in world even india can't compete with cheap Chinese goods
3)all contracts will be awarded to Chinese companies
4)all engineering n high lvl jobs will be done by Chinese in this project.lots of job will be created for Pakistani majdoors.
and many more.......etc etc

This is the biggest fdi investment in the history of Pakistan.... but did paki govt disclosed full deal to paki ppls??...nop
then how to keep it secret?? just change the view...this project is so beneficial that india want to sabotage it....raw given 500 mil $ and will give more bil $ to dig potholes )

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[Rashna]

This madness has gone to such extent that they are saying that India will go as far as using a nuke to stop this CPEC project.

Pakistan aware of India's campaign against China-Pak Economic Corridor: FO

ISLAMABAD: Following a series of statements by military and civilian leaders regarding Indian involvement in terrorist activities in Pakistan, Foreign Office spokesperson Qazi Khalilullah said Thursday that Pakistan is "well aware of India's alleged plans to sabotage the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project and its campaign against the corridor".

The FO spokesperson, however, underscored during the weekly media briefing that steps are being taken to ensure the completion of the project which is vital to the entire region.

Responding to a series of questions regarding the recent statements made by Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar about sponsoring terrorism to counter terrorism, he said: "The Indian defence minister's statements have confirmed Pakistan's apprehensions regarding India's involvement in terrorist activities in the country."

"Parrikar's statements are a matter of concern for not only Pakistan but the entire region and the whole world," he said, adding that, "Pakistan is taking appropriate steps and measures to protect its national interests."

Qazi Khalilullah further said that Pakistan has been the worst victim of terrorism with more than 50,000 lives lost and the country's economy incurring losses of more than $100 billion.

Senate's Standing Committee on Defence, Federal Defence Minister Khawaja Asif and Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz had also taken strong exception to the statement made by Parrikar.

Responding to a question regarding the presence of the self-styled Islamic State (IS) group's footprints in Pakistan, the foreign office spokesperson said no such footprints existed in Pakistan.

He added that, "Presence of wall-chalkings and banners in support of the group at a few isolated places does not prove that Daesh is present in the country."


"Pakistan does not share the language or culture of the IS militants, and the country's agencies are fully cognisant of the threat and are alerted to it," Khalilullah said.

Answering a question about the arrest of Pakistani national Khalid Mehmmod in Dhaka over espionage charges, the Foreign Office spokesperson said that the arrested man was working as an electrical engineer in a textile firm in the capital city of Bangladesh.

He added that Mehmood, who has 15 years experience in the field of textiles, was in Bangladesh on a valid visa since 2014.

Khalilullah added that Pakistan's High Commissioner in Dhaka Mian Afrasiab Mehdi Hashmi Qureshi had contacted the Bangladeshi Foreign Minister Abul Hassan Mahmood Ali and had sought counsellor access to the engineer.

The Pakistani high commissioner was assured by the foreign minister of Bangladesh that counsellor access would be granted to Khalid Mehmood, according to the foreign office spokesperson.

Responding to a question about the Axact fake degree scandal, the FO spokesperson said that the United States' Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is probing the matter as per the request of the Interior Ministry of Pakistan

He said that the government of Pakistan was also cooperating with the FBI in the ongoing investigation.

Answering a question about the expulsion of Declan Walsh, The New York Times' Islamabad bureau chief, Qazi Khalilullah said that the matter came under the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting and not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Walsh, a longtime foreign correspondent who had been covering the country for the Times since January 2012, was expelled from Pakistan on the eve of the May 11 elections in 2013. He was handed a two-sentence letter early Thursday ordering him to leave and accusing him of unspecified ''undesirable activities''.

Speaking about the repatriation of Afghan refugees from Pakistan, Khalilullah said Pakistan and Afghanistan have not entered into any agreement regarding the extension of the refugees' stay.

"However Pakistan, Afghanistan and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) are in touch with each other for the respectful return of the refugees."

http://www.dawn.com/news/1184742/pa...mpaign-against-china-pak-economic-corridor-fo

 

[Anikastha]

This madness has gone to such extent that they are saying that India will go as far as using a nuke to stop this CPEC project.

Pakistan aware of India's campaign against China-Pak Economic Corridor: FO

ISLAMABAD: Following a series of statements by military and civilian leaders regarding Indian involvement in terrorist activities in Pakistan, Foreign Office spokesperson Qazi Khalilullah said Thursday that Pakistan is "well aware of India's alleged plans to sabotage the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project and its campaign against the corridor".

The FO spokesperson, however, underscored during the weekly media briefing that steps are being taken to ensure the completion of the project which is vital to the entire region.

Responding to a series of questions regarding the recent statements made by Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar about sponsoring terrorism to counter terrorism, he said: "The Indian defence minister's statements have confirmed Pakistan's apprehensions regarding India's involvement in terrorist activities in the country."

"Parrikar's statements are a matter of concern for not only Pakistan but the entire region and the whole world," he said, adding that, "Pakistan is taking appropriate steps and measures to protect its national interests."

Qazi Khalilullah further said that Pakistan has been the worst victim of terrorism with more than 50,000 lives lost and the country's economy incurring losses of more than $100 billion.

Senate's Standing Committee on Defence, Federal Defence Minister Khawaja Asif and Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz had also taken strong exception to the statement made by Parrikar.

Responding to a question regarding the presence of the self-styled Islamic State (IS) group's footprints in Pakistan, the foreign office spokesperson said no such footprints existed in Pakistan.

He added that, "Presence of wall-chalkings and banners in support of the group at a few isolated places does not prove that Daesh is present in the country."


"Pakistan does not share the language or culture of the IS militants, and the country's agencies are fully cognisant of the threat and are alerted to it," Khalilullah said.

Answering a question about the arrest of Pakistani national Khalid Mehmmod in Dhaka over espionage charges, the Foreign Office spokesperson said that the arrested man was working as an electrical engineer in a textile firm in the capital city of Bangladesh.

He added that Mehmood, who has 15 years experience in the field of textiles, was in Bangladesh on a valid visa since 2014.

Khalilullah added that Pakistan's High Commissioner in Dhaka Mian Afrasiab Mehdi Hashmi Qureshi had contacted the Bangladeshi Foreign Minister Abul Hassan Mahmood Ali and had sought counsellor access to the engineer.

The Pakistani high commissioner was assured by the foreign minister of Bangladesh that counsellor access would be granted to Khalid Mehmood, according to the foreign office spokesperson.

Responding to a question about the Axact fake degree scandal, the FO spokesperson said that the United States' Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is probing the matter as per the request of the Interior Ministry of Pakistan

He said that the government of Pakistan was also cooperating with the FBI in the ongoing investigation.

Answering a question about the expulsion of Declan Walsh, The New York Times' Islamabad bureau chief, Qazi Khalilullah said that the matter came under the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting and not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Walsh, a longtime foreign correspondent who had been covering the country for the Times since January 2012, was expelled from Pakistan on the eve of the May 11 elections in 2013. He was handed a two-sentence letter early Thursday ordering him to leave and accusing him of unspecified ''undesirable activities''.

Speaking about the repatriation of Afghan refugees from Pakistan, Khalilullah said Pakistan and Afghanistan have not entered into any agreement regarding the extension of the refugees' stay.

"However Pakistan, Afghanistan and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) are in touch with each other for the respectful return of the refugees."

http://www.dawn.com/news/1184742/pa...mpaign-against-china-pak-economic-corridor-fo

Hats off to pakis they caught R&AW by tail

 

[Rashna]

lol... Paranoia which doesn't need anything much for them to get started....

Hats off to pakis they caught R&AW by tail

 

[raja696]

NO.
Targeting Pakistani rangers is exactly what they want us to do so they can play the role a weaker country being bullied by a stronger to gain more sympathy among the international community.

The more we target Pakistan the more they will claim that we are trying to prevent them from fighting terrorists and they will then claim that we are secretly aiding taliban, baloch seperatists etc.
This cycle will continue while we bleed from a thousand cuts which we cannot prove were made by pakistan.

Escalating things is what pakistan expects us to do and we should not fall into this trap as pakis raise the prospect of nuclear weapons immediatly when they think that things are going out of hand dragging the international community into our affairs.

May be ur much knowledgeable but dont u think this is what keeping us from taking proactive attack whether good or bad (when we are attacked). what u said sounds like what congress did past decade. Hit it hard make world numb for our retaliatory attacks. Thats what pakistan did through terrorism(abnormal) to world believe it as normal or numb.

 

[Screambowl]

2) China all weather friend is investing heavily so Chinese good or any thing coming frm china wont pay any excess fees at any point in Pakistan
long term impact:- Pakistani industries will be shut down as no country in world even india can't compete with cheap Chinese goods

What about the solar wind and hydro/thermal power generation units they are building? Road transport is one different entity, but when they are going for so many power generation projects, which means they will in future going to build production units and Industry that's why such a high number of power generation units to supply electricity.

 

[indiandefencefan]

May be ur much knowledgeable but dont u think this is what keeping us from taking proactive attack whether good or bad (when we are attacked). what u said sounds like what congress did past decade. Hit it hard make world numb for our retaliatory attacks. Thats what pakistan did through terrorism(abnormal) to world believe it as normal or numb.

I am not saying that we should just sit back and do nothing but directly encroaching upon military action to resolve a dispute is not the way to go forward.

In my personal opinion we should adopt a method of isolating pakistan from the international community akin to what USA is trying to do to Russia in the present day situation.

Pakistan today exists only due to aid from other benefactors ......... cut out this aid and they will be forced to come to the negotiation table instead of carrying out asymmetrical warfare against us.

@raja696 i would be happy to hear ur response and opinion on this.

 

[aliyah]

What about the solar wind and hydro/thermal power generation units they are building? Road transport is one different entity, but when they are going for so many power generation projects, which means they will in future going to build production units and Industry that's why such a high number of power generation units to supply electricity.

Question is not y china doing it.....question is y Pakistani accepted it??
china had give this proposal in 2009 at the time of gawader but Pakistan was not interested but in 2015 they did.....so the question is y?
we r thinking the timing of project was favourable..... war in Yemen started,within few day pak-China confirms project. this thing is that simple as it looks.

 

[ezsasa]

This is the planned CPEC route and projects.
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I could be wrong since i do not have full details of how Baki economics in power sector works.

Going by the pic there seems to be fundamentally wrong with amounts mentioned against power projects mentioned in the pic.

In india we seem to be building thermal power plants at an average cost between 4-5 crores INR(for private power plants that started in india after 2007) per megawatt(MW), in this baki corridor plan they seem to be building at the cost between 8-9 crores per MW. Can it be such a variance that their power plants cost double than ours? considering in all probability every component will be imported from china.

Somebody is taking somebody for a ride, This leads to three possibilities..

1. The whole cost of this plan might be grossly over valued.
2. Chinese are taking bakis for a ride, considering that these are loans not aid.
3. Nawaz sharif is taking baki public for a ride.

Not sure who is fooling who?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

All this information was gathered by Pakistan using spy pigeons.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lbird-after-flight-over-pakistan-india-border


'Suspected spy' pigeon becomes jailbird after flight over Pakistan-India border

 

[Screambowl]

Question is not y china doing it.....question is y Pakistani accepted it??
china had give this proposal in 2009 at the time of gawader but Pakistan was not interested but in 2015 they did.....so the question is y?
we r thinking the timing of project was favourable..... war in Yemen started,within few day pak-China confirms project. this thing is that simple as it looks.

In 2009,
1) Osama issue
2)TTP was prevailing
3)US pressure
Now
5) India's aggressive ' Make in India' campaign.
6) Cleaning TTP outfits among the cities. (Zarb e Azb)
7) India's closeness with US and Japan
.
.
.

and list goes on.

 

[Screambowl]

I could be wrong since i do not have full details of how Baki economics in power sector works.

Going by the pic there seems to be fundamentally wrong with amounts mentioned against power projects mentioned in the pic.

In india we seem to be building thermal power plants at an average cost between 4-5 crores INR(for private power plants that started in india after 2007) per megawatt(MW), in this baki corridor plan they seem to be building at the cost between 8-9 crores per MW. Can it be such a variance that their power plants cost double than ours? considering in all probability every component will be imported from china.

Somebody is taking somebody for a ride, This leads to three possibilities..

1. The whole cost of this plan might be grossly over valued.
2. Chinese are taking bakis for a ride, considering that these are loans not aid.
3. Nawaz sharif is taking baki public for a ride.

Not sure who is fooling who?

if you see the 660MW power plant in the photo, it costs around $900M. So 1MW will cost around $730000 = Rs4.65 Crore. (INR). Same as in India.

In PKR it will be Rs. 7.44 Crore per MW. So not a much difference. As Rs.1(INR)= Rs1.60(PKR)

 

[sathya]

Hahaha now Pakistan is feeling the pressure of protecting its terrorist.. lol.

Btw xhina is arguing India to stop its activities Vietnam zone.. and planning a economic corridor in disputed Kashmir zones.. clearly bullish..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...in-creating-problems-for-pakistan-since-1971/

India’s role in creating problems for Pakistan since 1971