'Pak has 14,000 Kashmiris in reserve for war against India'

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'Pak has 14,000 Kashmiris in reserve for war against India' - The Times of India


WASHINGTON: Pakistan is staying the course of using terrorist groups to protect its interests, a former militant commander has divulged, contradicting Islamabad's avowals to the contrary and hopeful testimonials from Washington and New Delhi about Pakistan changing its policy and behavior.

The unnamed militant said Pakistani generals have not given up the policy of nurturing terrorists. "That system was still functioning," he told the New York Times referring to the Pakistan military's training and protection of terrorists in an interview published on Monday.

"The government is not interested in eliminating them permanently," he said. "The Pakistani military establishment has become habituated to using proxies... There are two bodies running these affairs: mullahs and retired generals. These people have a very big role still."

He also revealed that Pakistan has 12,000 to 14,000 fully trained Kashmiri fighters, scattered throughout various camps in Pakistan, and is "holding them in reserve to use if needed in a war against India".

He said ISI continues to support even terrorist groups that have turned against the government because the military still wants to keep them as tools for use against India. For instance, Pakistan could easily kill a militant leader like Hakimullah Mehsud but it chose not, he said, adding illustratively that he could do the job for Rs 20,000.

"The account belies years of assurances by Pakistan to American officials... that it has ceased supporting militant groups in its territory," the paper said, pointing that US has given Pakistan more than $20 billion in aid over the past decade for its help with counter-terrorism operations. The militant's account comes as an embarrassment to some officials in Islamabad, Washington, and New Delhi who are ginning up a narrative of Pakistan giving up its policy of using terrorist groups for its so-called strategic depth despite there being no evidence to back this. Over the weekend, India's foreign secretary Nirupama Rao, who is now the ambassador-designate to the US, told a TV channel that there is a change in Pakistan's attitude to tackling terrorism, and described it as a "concrete development".

But the militant's insights show no such change in the Pakistani establishment, unless one chooses to see the Pakistani military and government as different entities (they both claim to speak in one voice).

Is this enough against a nation of 1.2 billion people??
 

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a message to the dumb def and blind at south block ( not the Defense CHIEFS ) there is no use of reading the vades to the reaging Bull that is hell bent on Killing you WAKE UP
 

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These reserve forces nightmare is the Rashtriya Rifles and we have 65 battalions to take care of them :)
 

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Don't worry. Union govt has a potent weapon up its sleeve: Rehablitation. They SHALL be given lands, houses, jobs and pensions etc. Assets of temples are there. Terrorism can be so profitable. Donon hathon meian laddu.
 
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'Pak has 14,000 Kashmiris in reserve for war against India' - The Times of India


WASHINGTON: Pakistan is staying the course of using terrorist groups to protect its interests, a former militant commander has divulged, contradicting Islamabad's avowals to the contrary and hopeful testimonials from Washington and New Delhi about Pakistan changing its policy and behavior.

The unnamed militant said Pakistani generals have not given up the policy of nurturing terrorists. "That system was still functioning," he told the New York Times referring to the Pakistan military's training and protection of terrorists in an interview published on Monday.

"The government is not interested in eliminating them permanently," he said. "The Pakistani military establishment has become habituated to using proxies... There are two bodies running these affairs: mullahs and retired generals. These people have a very big role still."

He also revealed that Pakistan has 12,000 to 14,000 fully trained Kashmiri fighters, scattered throughout various camps in Pakistan, and is "holding them in reserve to use if needed in a war against India".

He said ISI continues to support even terrorist groups that have turned against the government because the military still wants to keep them as tools for use against India. For instance, Pakistan could easily kill a militant leader like Hakimullah Mehsud but it chose not, he said, adding illustratively that he could do the job for Rs 20,000.

"The account belies years of assurances by Pakistan to American officials... that it has ceased supporting militant groups in its territory," the paper said, pointing that US has given Pakistan more than $20 billion in aid over the past decade for its help with counter-terrorism operations. The militant's account comes as an embarrassment to some officials in Islamabad, Washington, and New Delhi who are ginning up a narrative of Pakistan giving up its policy of using terrorist groups for its so-called strategic depth despite there being no evidence to back this. Over the weekend, India's foreign secretary Nirupama Rao, who is now the ambassador-designate to the US, told a TV channel that there is a change in Pakistan's attitude to tackling terrorism, and described it as a "concrete development".

But the militant's insights show no such change in the Pakistani establishment, unless one chooses to see the Pakistani military and government as different entities (they both claim to speak in one voice).

Is this enough against a nation of 1.2 billion people??

This is very old docktrine of pak land against India. It came into existence in late 80's after Afgan war. They moved these people to pak kashmir and set up camps. There number is much more at that time, around 100,000. Most of them become bored and started fighting in pak land it self. aka TTP.. lollllllllll
 

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they will use as canonfodder ,just like kargil ,and when they perished ,they even dont recognised ,and have to be buried by our soldiers ,the same old wine in anew bottle.
 

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India has 650,000,000 Indians in reserve for war against Pakistan.
tarun did you leave the NRI population out ???

the Gross Total of NRI / PIO's =25,768,834

the brake down is provided in terms of Continents


africa 2,800,000

asia 9,800,000

americas 12,600,000

europe 4,500,000

mid east 1,768,834

Oceania 24,000,000



figures taken from wiki
 

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India has 650,000,000 Indians in reserve for war against Pakistan.
Lol they discount that fact. Remember 1 Pak= 10 Indians.


Seriously though, what difference does 14,000 make to us while defending our country. PA is far larger than this bunch. The guy is wrong in saying they will be used in war. Not conventional war at least. They can only be sent for terrorist activity.
 

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they'll get ripped to shreds in a battlefield.
 

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I think they still believe that the mass intrusion in 65 worked well for them.
Even if it did, this is not 1965.

Regards,
Virendra
 

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Pakistani are so stupid they think having 14000 armed militants are going to help them fight India. We will overrun them in no time. They might have been good against Afghanistan but not against India.
 

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Pakistani are so stupid they think having 14000 armed militants are going to help them fight India. We will overrun them in no time. They might have been good against Afghanistan but not against India.
This pak late 80's doctrine .I am not sure it is practical today. This stupid doctrine is responsible for pak demise today.

This is what i called "hunter become hunted"
 

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