Naval Artillery And Future

[shubhamsaikia]

Even Ballistic and Cruise Missiles are called artillery. So can we add some for their naval counterparts as well.?

 

[shubhamsaikia]

 

[SPIEZ]

Rail Gun Naval test shot

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Have the USN abandoned their rail gun development ?

 

[pankaj nema]

File:OTOBreda127-54.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otobreda_127/54_Compact

127 MM Naval guns are the latest

 

[shubhamsaikia]

16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun

 

[Rahul92]

Well Future LOOKS GOOD

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Tales of the Gun - Naval Guns 1/3

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Oto Melara 127/64 LW Vulcano naval gun system

 

[syncro]

OTO MELARA 76/62 Strales

 

[Armand2REP]

The long range Oto Melara guns are looking like it will go unfunded with Italian budget cuts. The future certainly looks bright with EM Railguns but scaling them full size and handling the massive heat is a real challenge. I don't know if materials exist that can last enough rounds to make it worth it.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Kunal Biswas]

127/64 LW Vulcano naval gun system Oto Melara


127/64 Lightweight Naval Gun Mount

The Oto Melara 127/64 Lightweight (LW) naval Gun Mount is a rapid fire gun mount suitable for installation on large and medium size ships, intended for surface fire and naval gunfire support as main role and anti-aircraft fire as secondary role.

The 127/64 LW Naval Gun Mounts includes a Vulcano module, which acts twofold:
- Programmer for ammunition's fuse and guidance system
- Mission Planning and Execution for Naval Fire Support Action (firing solutions, selection of ammunition, definition of trajectories and firing sequences, ballistic computations accounting for ammunition type, etc.), as a standalone or in interaction with ship's Network Centric System

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Oto Melara 76/62 Super Rapid

 

[SPIEZ]

Why are land based atrillery never used on board ships?

There was a talk that Royal Navy might update all guns to 155mm to maintain standards with the Army

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Land based arty system are much simpler than Navy guns.

See the above vid posted about 127/64 LW Vulcano naval gun system Oto Melara , you can see the difference..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

155 mm (6.1") Future Naval Gun

The UK Ministry of Defense (MOD), DERA and RO Defence have performed studies over the past few years to assess future naval fire support requirements, particularly for the new Type 45 destroyers. Work was originally focused on developing a new 155 mm/52 "Future Naval Gun" which could take advantage of standard NATO 155 mm ammunition and the extended-range guided munitions already in development for land-based 155 mm artillery. However, MOD was unable to fund the high development cost associated with developing a new 155 mm naval mounting, and in regards to the Type 45 destroyer, there were concerns that the very large magazine required would use up the volume reserved for the 16 extra VLS cells for deep strike missiles. As of December 2007, at least the first six Type 45 ships will mount the 4.5" (114 mm) Mark 8 Mod 1 gun and it seems unlikely that follow-on units as commissioned would use any other gun mounting.

In mid-2004, competition for arming the Type 45 came from United Defense, who proposed their 5"/62 (127 mm) Mark 45 Mod 4 for these ships. As part of this proposal, United Defense would sub-contract much of the assembly work to British firms, similar to what they have done for other nations. This United Defense proposal was rejected by the Royal Navy in early 2005 as being too expensive. The acquistion of United Defense by BAE Systems in June 2005 has made any competition between BAE and United Defense moot.

In response to the United Defense proposal, in December 2004 BAE Systems made a proposal to use the existing gun house for the 4.5" (114 mm) Mark 8 Mod 1, but use the same 155 mm/39 gun barrel being used on the Army's AS90 Braveheart self-propelled howitzer. BAE called this proposal the 155 mm TMF (Third generation Maritime Fire support). BAE claims that this arrangement would not create recoil forces beyond the capability of the Mod 1 mounting and estimates that this design would weigh 24.5 tons compared with 22.5 tons for the 4.5" (114 mm) Mark 8 Mod 1 and 26.4 tons for the original Mod 0. BAE foresees that the largest modification would be changing to a double-stroke loading cycle needed to handle modular charges. BAE estimates that this change would reduce the rate of fire to about 12 rounds per minute. There would also need to be a modification of the gun shield to allow for higher elevation angles.

BAE states that the Mark 8 Mod 1 gunhouse could also be used for a Fourth generation Maritime Fire support weapon (FMF) using the longer-barrel 155 mm/52, but this combination would require strengthening of the gunhouse in order to meet the added recoil forces.

MOD awarded BAE a research contract in 2007 to pursue their TMF design. However, the project was cancelled in late 2010 as part of large UK budget cuts in defense and other areas.

Source : Britain 155 mm/52 Future Naval Gun

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Coalition artillery system

The 2S35 Koalitsija-SV (coalition) is a prototype twin-barrel self-propelled howitzer. The first demonstrator of this unique artillery system was completed in 2006, The twin-barrel Koalitsija-SV has a high rate of fire comparing with current artillery systems. It might be around 16 rounds per minute. not much avilable about its naval version..

Source : Koalitsija-SV Prototype Self-Propelled Twin-Barrel Howitzer | Military-Today.com

 

[DivineHeretic]

Why are land based atrillery never used on board ships?

There was a talk that Royal Navy might update all guns to 155mm to maintain standards with the Army

I'm not sure if you are talking about the system as a whole or just the barell assembly.

If its the first, then you must realise that a Naval vessel has different requirements for its Guns. Unlike a land based artillery system, the Naval guns have nearly automated loading operations. Furthermore, these guns alse need to be atleast 2 axis stabilised to negate the action of waves on the Ship.

You can see the operarion of a naval gun and make out the difference between its land counterparts.

Ps, its a very old design.