LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[Steven Rogers]

Do we have stats for elta 2052 and RBE2 aesa?

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No............................

 

[Defcon 1]

The Mark 1 & 2 has very similar nose area, squeezing the IRST on the Mark1A shouldn't be impossible.

To squeeze an IRST, we need to have an IRST first of all. It hasn't been developed yet.

 

[Defcon 1]

If so. It will exceed Gripen E in capabilities and in MWF avatar it will kick its ass...
And I will be doing

Gripen E will still carry more fuel and load than MK1A. As for Brahmos NG, Gripen already has RBS-15. Tejas has a long way to go before it can beat Gripen E.

 

[patriots]

If so. It will exceed Gripen E in capabilities and in MWF avatar it will kick its ass...
And I will be doing

Grpen e is out of race....
If mmrca goes successful...then I belive it woulde...f21 or rafale or f18
Rafale costs more so may be f21 or f18

 

[patriots]

To squeeze an IRST, we need to have an IRST first of all. It hasn't been developed yet.

Indigenous irst and spj are in development...
Bro...
I had read.......it

 

[shiphone]

No bro....mk1a will be able to
Coz in our lima 2019 poster we had a photo of tejas with 2 brahmos mini(artistic)
We are offering mk1a so

LIMA ?or Aero India?

and this is LIMA19

 

[patriots]

Most flights with lsp 4

And one flight of lsp 2(uttam integrated)
Np1 and Np2....4 flight s...with arrester hook(preparing for landing on deck)

Pv6 4 flight s(trainer version)
Lsp 4 6 flight s(unknown)(previously fired derby,first trial)

Lsp 7 (gun integrated also fired derby 2nd traial)


https://m.facebook.com/wesupportindianforcesupdates/photos/a.126229551316282/126528704619700/?type=3

 

[patriots]

LIMA ?or Aero India?

and this is LIMA19

This is the poster I am talking about from lima 2019.......

 

[lcafanboy]

Indigenous irst and spj are in development...
Bro...
I had read.......it

BEL In Race To Develop Infrared Tracking System For Sukhoi Su-30 MKI Jet
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2..._System_For_Sukhoi_Su_30_MKI_Jet#.XOuKEqjhU0M

BEL is developing Indian irst and spj or integrated EW suit mayawi to is being developed...

 

[IndianHawk]

Do you have a source for that weight? According to this article (https://www.financialexpress.com/de...-next-generation-brahmos-ng-missiles/1512331/), the Tejas should be able to carry the BrahMos-NG

There was an image of lca pylon weight capacity. Present mk1 may also be able to carry it. Anyway bramhos Ng will be ready in 2-3 years by then lca mk1a will be the standard.

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[Defcon 1]

Indigenous irst and spj are in development...
Bro...
I had read.......it

Exactly, are in development, not ready. Mk1A is not about any new component development. It is only about integration of already developed components and LRU reconfiguration. For any chance of having an IRST on Mk1A, the IRST has to be ready today.

 

[IndianHawk]

Gripen E will still carry more fuel and load than MK1A. As for Brahmos NG, Gripen already has RBS-15. Tejas has a long way to go before it can beat Gripen E.

Gripen E is comparable to mwf . It is bigger and not yet ready. Gripen E will attend foc only by 2023 or 2024. Mwf will be here by 2027 .
Not that far behind really.

Bramhos Ng will be here with mk1/mk1a itself by 2023.
Mk1/mk1a are more than a match for current operational gripen c/d.

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[IndianHawk]

Gripen E will still carry more fuel and load than MK1A. As for Brahmos NG, Gripen already has RBS-15. Tejas has a long way to go before it can beat Gripen E.

Also RBS 15 is not comparable to bramhos Ng.
As bramhos Ng speed is 3.5 Mach while RBS 15 is 0.9 Mach. Bramhos Ng is far more deadly and dangerous capability than RBS 15.

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[IndianHawk]

Exactly, are in development, not ready. Mk1A is not about any new component development. It is only about integration of already developed components and LRU reconfiguration. For any chance of having an IRST on Mk1A, the IRST has to be ready today.

As of now. Irst will go into mwf and not in mk1a.
Mk1a will have aesa , unified ew suite , AAR ,
Dual rack for missiles. External spj .

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[Defcon 1]

Also RBS 15 is not comparable to bramhos Ng.
As bramhos Ng speed is 3.5 Mach while RBS 15 is 0.9 Mach. Bramhos Ng is far more deadly and dangerous capability than RBS 15.

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No missile is comparable to Brahmos NG. The point I was trying to make is that Gripen already has an antiship missile. So just by having Brahmos NG, Mk1A will not automatically become superior to Gripen NG.

 

[Defcon 1]

Gripen E is comparable to mwf . It is bigger and not yet ready. Gripen E will attend foc only by 2023 or 2024. Mwf will be here by 2027 .
Not that far behind really.

Bramhos Ng will be here with mk1/mk1a itself by 2023.
Mk1/mk1a are more than a match for current operational gripen c/d.

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Even Brahmos A is not properly integrated with Sukhoi 30. Brahmos NG has not even gone through first flight. It will have a long development cycle. Then there is integration of the missile with the platform, which will take its own sweet time. Brahmos NG-Mk1A combination is not going to happen before 2025 at the earliest.

 

[IndianHawk]

No............................

I did some searching.
Found this photo. Don't know how accurate.
But it says 2052 has 1114 T/R module .
Should be quite powerful than . I think that is also development target for Uttam.

For rbe 2 following image says 898 actual module while 1000 claimed.

If Uttam is already at 800 module than its quite close to maturity density wise although flight testing will take time.

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[patriots]

Majestic look of tejas np...................

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[IndianHawk]

Even Brahmos A is not properly integrated with Sukhoi 30. Brahmos NG has not even gone through first flight. It will have a long development cycle. Then there is integration of the missile with the platform, which will take its own sweet time. Brahmos NG-Mk1A combination is not going to happen before 2025 at the earliest.

Even then we are not that far behind from gripen program. We will get similar capabilities or better than gripen just a few years behind. And they will be indegenios.
Meanwhile we have sukhoi with bramhos A which outrange RBS and scalp with rafale is coming in September. So lca has time to catch up.

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[Kchontha]

Aa

Also RBS 15 is not comparable to bramhos Ng.
As bramhos Ng speed is 3.5 Mach while RBS 15 is 0.9 Mach. Bramhos Ng is far more deadly and dangerous capability than RBS 15.

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