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the maps are wrong. westbank and gaza strip are in palestine control . i have seen the above maps before. these are just propaganda scoring issues by palestine supporters claiming jewish attrocities and systematically claiming their lands.
i would like to say something which some of you may not like, but thats the way i see it. you have every right to criticize or correct me .
the above map shows timeline from 1946 till date ( which are obviously wrong ). but according to the bible of christians and hebrews the whole of israel was inhabitated by hebrews. there have been recorded facts since the time of rome that israel was inhabited by jews.
it was down the line when muslims captured israel and after that the crusade wars began to liberate the Holy land. before the crusade wars lot of things did happen and which are till date debatable.
But in the end a fact remains that israel was inhabited by jews from the begining. that logically makes palestines minority. so why the fight for land when israel has already agreed to UN division of land between jew's and palestines.
A race that has been living in this region for thousands of years. have their religion attached to it. it is now in commandable power and still is ready to share its land with non jewish palestine. i think that should be appreciated. but then the palestine conflict has been propagandized as israel attrocities.
the maps are wrong. westbank and gaza strip are in palestine control . i have seen the above maps before. these are just propaganda scoring issues by palestine supporters claiming jewish attrocities and systematically claiming their lands.
i would like to say something which some of you may not like, but thats the way i see it. you have every right to criticize or correct me .
the above map shows timeline from 1946 till date ( which are obviously wrong ). but according to the bible of christians and hebrews the whole of israel was inhabitated by hebrews. there have been recorded facts since the time of rome that israel was inhabited by jews.
it was down the line when muslims captured israel and after that the crusade wars began to liberate the Holy land. before the crusade wars lot of things did happen and which are till date debatable.
But in the end a fact remains that israel was inhabited by jews from the begining. that logically makes palestines minority. so why the fight for land when israel has already agreed to UN division of land between jew's and palestines.
A race that has been living in this region for thousands of years. have their religion attached to it. it is now in commandable power and still is ready to share its land with non jewish palestine. i think that should be appreciated. but then the palestine conflict has been propagandized as israel attrocities.
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the one thing that mesmerizes me is that when the Gaza strip was under egyptian control and the west bank under jordanian control why didnt any one call it an occupation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupa...ouk.2C_General_Naguib.2C_and_President_Nasser
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Israeli Perspective- Please read the text carefully in the Video, may help understand
We have to keep in mind the state of Israel (c.1050 BCE) and Judah have existed since ancient times, at the same place where Israel exists today, we can further conduct research on how they were forced out by the advent of different powers in the region be it Pharaohs, Romans, Christians, Muslims etc. But land was always considered homeland of Jews, even by the occupying forces.................This video may compress all the info into a small package to understand the Long and complex history behind the conflict!
Quick Info:
A Map of Jewish Hasmoneon Kingdom (c.140 BCE)
King David's Empire was even Larger than Hasmoneon Kingdom (c.1008 BCE)
A conflict in any region affects the whole World, but we should know all the different perspectives towards the cause of the conflict. I have posted a video and some information about Jewish claims on their Homeland/Holy-land called Israel, which are different from what we usually read in Pro-leftist and Arabic mediums of information. I truly believe both Jewish and Palestinian people have a right to exist.
V Peace V
We have to keep in mind the state of Israel (c.1050 BCE) and Judah have existed since ancient times, at the same place where Israel exists today, we can further conduct research on how they were forced out by the advent of different powers in the region be it Pharaohs, Romans, Christians, Muslims etc. But land was always considered homeland of Jews, even by the occupying forces.................This video may compress all the info into a small package to understand the Long and complex history behind the conflict!
Quick Info:
A Map of Jewish Hasmoneon Kingdom (c.140 BCE)
King David's Empire was even Larger than Hasmoneon Kingdom (c.1008 BCE)
A conflict in any region affects the whole World, but we should know all the different perspectives towards the cause of the conflict. I have posted a video and some information about Jewish claims on their Homeland/Holy-land called Israel, which are different from what we usually read in Pro-leftist and Arabic mediums of information. I truly believe both Jewish and Palestinian people have a right to exist.
V Peace V
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Israeli commander: 'We rewrote the rules of war for Gaza'
A high-ranking officer has acknowledged for the first time that the Israeli army went beyond its previous rules of engagement on the protection of civilian lives in order to minimise military casualties during last year's Gaza war, The Independent can reveal.
The officer, who served as a commander during Operation Cast Lead, made it clear that he did not regard the longstanding principle of military conduct known as "means and intentions" – whereby a targeted suspect must have a weapon and show signs of intending to use it before being fired upon – as being applicable before calling in fire from drones and helicopters in Gaza last winter. A more junior officer who served at a brigade headquarters during the operation described the new policy – devised in part to avoid the heavy military casualties of the 2006 Lebanon war – as one of "literally zero risk to the soldiers".
The officers' revelations will pile more pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to set up an independent inquiry into the war, as demanded in the UN-commissioned Goldstone Report, which harshly criticised the conduct of both Israel and Hamas. One of Israel's most prominent human rights lawyers, Michael Sfard, said last night that the senior commander's acknowledgement – if accurate – was "a smoking gun".
Until now, the testimony has been kept out of the public domain. The senior commander told a journalist compiling a lengthy report for Yedhiot Ahronot, Israel's biggest daily newspaper, about the rules of engagement in the three-week military offensive in Gaza. But although the article was completed and ready for publication five months ago, it has still not appeared. The senior commander told Yedhiot: "Means and intentions is a definition that suits an arrest operation in the Judaea and Samaria [West Bank] area... We need to be very careful because the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] was already burnt in the second Lebanon war from the wrong terminology. The concept of means and intentions is taken from different circumstances. Here [in Cast Lead] we were not talking about another regular counter-terrorist operation. There is a clear difference."
His remarks reinforce testimonies from soldiers who served in the Gaza operation, made to the veterans' group Breaking the Silence and reported exclusively by this newspaper last July. They also appear to cut across the military doctrine – enunciated most recently in public by one of the authors of the IDF's own code of ethics – that it is the duty of soldiers to run risks to themselves in order to preserve civilian lives.
Explaining what he saw as the dilemma for forces operating in areas that were supposedly cleared of civilians, the senior commander said: "Whoever is left in the neighbourhood and wants to action an IED [improvised explosive device] against the soldiers doesn't have to walk with a Kalashnikov or a weapon. A person like that can walk around like any other civilian; he sees the IDF forces, calls someone who would operate the terrible death explosive and five of our soldiers explode in the air. We could not wait until this IED is activated against us."
Another soldier who worked in one of the brigade's war-room headquarters told The Independent that conduct in Gaza – particularly by aerial forces and in areas where civilians had been urged to leave by leaflets – had "taken the targeted killing idea and turned it on its head". Instead of using intelligence to identify a terrorist, he said, "here you do the opposite: first you take him down, then you look into it."
The Yedhiot newspaper also spoke to a series of soldiers who had served in Operation Cast Lead in sensitive positions. While the soldiers rejected the main finding of the Goldstone Report – that the Israeli military had deliberately "targeted" the civilian population – most asserted that the rules were flexible enough to allow a policy under which, in the words of one soldier "any movement must entail gunfire. No one's supposed to be there." He added that at a meeting with his brigade commander and others it was made clear that "if you see any signs of movement at all you shoot. This is essentially the rules of engagement."
The other soldier in the war-room explained: "This doesn't mean that you need to disrespect the lives of Palestinians but our first priority is the lives of our soldiers. That's not something you're going to compromise on. In all my years in the military, I never heard that."
He added that the majority of casualties were caused in his brigade area by aerial firing, including from unmanned drones. "Most of the guys taken down were taken down by order of headquarters. The number of enemy killed by HQ-operated remote ... compared to enemy killed by soldiers on the ground had absolutely inverted," he said.
Rules of engagement issued to soldiers serving in the West Bank as recently as July 2006 make it clear that shooting towards even an armed person will take place only if there is intelligence that he intends to act against Israeli forces or if he poses an immediate threat to soldiers or others.
In a recent article in New Republic, Moshe Halbertal, a philosophy professor at Hebrew and New York Universities, who was involved in drawing up the IDF's ethical code in 2000 and who is critical of the Goldstone Report, said that efforts to spare civilian life "must include the expectation that soldiers assume some risk to their own lives in order to avoid causing the deaths of civilians". While the choices for commanders were often extremely difficult and while he did not think the expectation was demanded by international law, "it is demanded in Israel's military code and this has always been its tradition".
The Israeli military declined to comment on the latest revelations, and directed all enquiries to already-published material, including a July 2009 foreign ministry document The Operation in Gaza: Factual and Legal Aspects.
That document, which repeats that Israel acted in conformity with international law despite the "acute dilemmas" posed by Hamas's operations within civilian areas, sets out the principles of Operation Cast Lead as follows: "Only military targets shall be attacked; Any attack against civilian objectives shall be prohibited. A 'civilian objective' is any objective which is not a military target." It adds: "In case of doubt, the forces are obliged to regard an object as civilian."
Yedhiot has not commented on why its article has not been published.
Israel in Gaza: The soldier's tale
This experienced soldier, who cannot be named, served in the war room of a brigade during Operation Cast Lead. Here, he recalls an incident he witnessed during last winter's three-week offensive:
"Two [Palestinian] guys are walking down the street. They pass a mosque and you see a gathering of women and children.
"You saw them exiting the house and [they] are not walking together but one behind the other. So you begin to fantasise they are actually ducking close to the wall.
"One [man] began to run at some point, must have heard the chopper. The GSS [secret service] argued that the mere fact that he heard it implicated him, because a normal civilian would not have realised that he was now being hunted.
"Finally he was shot. He was not shot next to the mosque. It's obvious that shots are not taken at a gathering."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ewrote-the-rules-of-war-for-gaza-1887627.html
A high-ranking officer has acknowledged for the first time that the Israeli army went beyond its previous rules of engagement on the protection of civilian lives in order to minimise military casualties during last year's Gaza war, The Independent can reveal.
The officer, who served as a commander during Operation Cast Lead, made it clear that he did not regard the longstanding principle of military conduct known as "means and intentions" – whereby a targeted suspect must have a weapon and show signs of intending to use it before being fired upon – as being applicable before calling in fire from drones and helicopters in Gaza last winter. A more junior officer who served at a brigade headquarters during the operation described the new policy – devised in part to avoid the heavy military casualties of the 2006 Lebanon war – as one of "literally zero risk to the soldiers".
The officers' revelations will pile more pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to set up an independent inquiry into the war, as demanded in the UN-commissioned Goldstone Report, which harshly criticised the conduct of both Israel and Hamas. One of Israel's most prominent human rights lawyers, Michael Sfard, said last night that the senior commander's acknowledgement – if accurate – was "a smoking gun".
Until now, the testimony has been kept out of the public domain. The senior commander told a journalist compiling a lengthy report for Yedhiot Ahronot, Israel's biggest daily newspaper, about the rules of engagement in the three-week military offensive in Gaza. But although the article was completed and ready for publication five months ago, it has still not appeared. The senior commander told Yedhiot: "Means and intentions is a definition that suits an arrest operation in the Judaea and Samaria [West Bank] area... We need to be very careful because the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] was already burnt in the second Lebanon war from the wrong terminology. The concept of means and intentions is taken from different circumstances. Here [in Cast Lead] we were not talking about another regular counter-terrorist operation. There is a clear difference."
His remarks reinforce testimonies from soldiers who served in the Gaza operation, made to the veterans' group Breaking the Silence and reported exclusively by this newspaper last July. They also appear to cut across the military doctrine – enunciated most recently in public by one of the authors of the IDF's own code of ethics – that it is the duty of soldiers to run risks to themselves in order to preserve civilian lives.
Explaining what he saw as the dilemma for forces operating in areas that were supposedly cleared of civilians, the senior commander said: "Whoever is left in the neighbourhood and wants to action an IED [improvised explosive device] against the soldiers doesn't have to walk with a Kalashnikov or a weapon. A person like that can walk around like any other civilian; he sees the IDF forces, calls someone who would operate the terrible death explosive and five of our soldiers explode in the air. We could not wait until this IED is activated against us."
Another soldier who worked in one of the brigade's war-room headquarters told The Independent that conduct in Gaza – particularly by aerial forces and in areas where civilians had been urged to leave by leaflets – had "taken the targeted killing idea and turned it on its head". Instead of using intelligence to identify a terrorist, he said, "here you do the opposite: first you take him down, then you look into it."
The Yedhiot newspaper also spoke to a series of soldiers who had served in Operation Cast Lead in sensitive positions. While the soldiers rejected the main finding of the Goldstone Report – that the Israeli military had deliberately "targeted" the civilian population – most asserted that the rules were flexible enough to allow a policy under which, in the words of one soldier "any movement must entail gunfire. No one's supposed to be there." He added that at a meeting with his brigade commander and others it was made clear that "if you see any signs of movement at all you shoot. This is essentially the rules of engagement."
The other soldier in the war-room explained: "This doesn't mean that you need to disrespect the lives of Palestinians but our first priority is the lives of our soldiers. That's not something you're going to compromise on. In all my years in the military, I never heard that."
He added that the majority of casualties were caused in his brigade area by aerial firing, including from unmanned drones. "Most of the guys taken down were taken down by order of headquarters. The number of enemy killed by HQ-operated remote ... compared to enemy killed by soldiers on the ground had absolutely inverted," he said.
Rules of engagement issued to soldiers serving in the West Bank as recently as July 2006 make it clear that shooting towards even an armed person will take place only if there is intelligence that he intends to act against Israeli forces or if he poses an immediate threat to soldiers or others.
In a recent article in New Republic, Moshe Halbertal, a philosophy professor at Hebrew and New York Universities, who was involved in drawing up the IDF's ethical code in 2000 and who is critical of the Goldstone Report, said that efforts to spare civilian life "must include the expectation that soldiers assume some risk to their own lives in order to avoid causing the deaths of civilians". While the choices for commanders were often extremely difficult and while he did not think the expectation was demanded by international law, "it is demanded in Israel's military code and this has always been its tradition".
The Israeli military declined to comment on the latest revelations, and directed all enquiries to already-published material, including a July 2009 foreign ministry document The Operation in Gaza: Factual and Legal Aspects.
That document, which repeats that Israel acted in conformity with international law despite the "acute dilemmas" posed by Hamas's operations within civilian areas, sets out the principles of Operation Cast Lead as follows: "Only military targets shall be attacked; Any attack against civilian objectives shall be prohibited. A 'civilian objective' is any objective which is not a military target." It adds: "In case of doubt, the forces are obliged to regard an object as civilian."
Yedhiot has not commented on why its article has not been published.
Israel in Gaza: The soldier's tale
This experienced soldier, who cannot be named, served in the war room of a brigade during Operation Cast Lead. Here, he recalls an incident he witnessed during last winter's three-week offensive:
"Two [Palestinian] guys are walking down the street. They pass a mosque and you see a gathering of women and children.
"You saw them exiting the house and [they] are not walking together but one behind the other. So you begin to fantasise they are actually ducking close to the wall.
"One [man] began to run at some point, must have heard the chopper. The GSS [secret service] argued that the mere fact that he heard it implicated him, because a normal civilian would not have realised that he was now being hunted.
"Finally he was shot. He was not shot next to the mosque. It's obvious that shots are not taken at a gathering."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ewrote-the-rules-of-war-for-gaza-1887627.html
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Thanks for the video f-14. I am not against Israel mate. Israel is doing these for protecting its civilians. i wish India is like Israel.
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Israeli troops kill Palestinian in West Bank
HEBRON, West Bank, Feb 12 (Reuters) - Israeli soldiers shot and killed a Palestinian in the occupied West Bank on Friday as he tried to stab them, an army spokeswoman said.
The man was wounded in the Hebron shooting and taken to an Israeli hospital, where he died.
A large Palestinian city where several hundred Jewish settlers live with an Israeli military garrison to protect them, Hebron has seen frequent violence.
Such incidents have abated as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas pursues a U.S.-backed law-and-order and economic revival drive in the West Bank.
Many Palestinians remain bitter, however, about the absence of peace talks with Israel that might halt settlement expansion and lead to the creation of a Palestinian state.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE61B24B.htm
HEBRON, West Bank, Feb 12 (Reuters) - Israeli soldiers shot and killed a Palestinian in the occupied West Bank on Friday as he tried to stab them, an army spokeswoman said.
The man was wounded in the Hebron shooting and taken to an Israeli hospital, where he died.
A large Palestinian city where several hundred Jewish settlers live with an Israeli military garrison to protect them, Hebron has seen frequent violence.
Such incidents have abated as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas pursues a U.S.-backed law-and-order and economic revival drive in the West Bank.
Many Palestinians remain bitter, however, about the absence of peace talks with Israel that might halt settlement expansion and lead to the creation of a Palestinian state.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE61B24B.htm
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Dubai Releases Video Of Alleged Assassins In Hamas Chief Killing (VIDEO)
AP) DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Dubai police appealed for an international manhunt Tuesday after releasing names and photos of an alleged 11-member European hit squad accused of stalking and killing a Hamas commander last month in a plot that mixed cold precision with spy caper disguises such as fake beards and wigs.
The case – as presented by Dubai authorities – rings of clockwork espionage and detailed planning that included suspects riding the same elevator as Mahmoud al-Mabhouh before he was slain in an ambush-style attack in a luxury hotel room that took no more than 10 minutes.
But questions emerged about the list of suspects after Dubai authorities released pictures, names and passport photos identifying them as six Britons, three Irish and one each from France and Germany.
[video]http://video.gulfnews.com/services/player/bcpid4267205001?bctid=66672644001[/video]
Ireland said the three alleged Irish citizens on the wanted list do not exist. In Germany, officials said the passport number give by Dubai for the lone German suspect is either incomplete or wrong.
Other elements also challenged the narrative presented by Dubai authorities, including how investigators pieced together the evidence pointing to an alleged European assassin team. Or why such an apparently well-planned operation would forget about the country's wide-ranging security cameras.
At least three people who live in Israel share names with suspects identified by Dubai police, Israel's Channel 2 news reported. Another man named as a suspect holds dual British-Israeli citizenship. Those connections are likely to encourage Hamas and others to press their claims that Israel's Mossad secret service masterminded the slaying. Hamas has vowed revenge.
Al-Mabhouh, one of the founders of Hamas' military wings, had been wanted by Israel for his role in the 1989 kidnapping and killing of two Israeli soldiers on leave – something that was acknowledged by Hamas last month.
Days after his body was found on Jan. 20, Israeli officials also pointedly accused al-Mabhouh of helping smuggle rockets into the Gaza Strip, the coastal territory ruled by Hamas.
Officials outside Dubai, however, said at least two Palestinians linked to the case were in Dubai custody, leaving Hamas and its Palestinian rivals trading bitter accusations.
Meanwhile, doubts were raised about some suspects' identities.
In Dublin, Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs said it could not find the three suspects in passport records and the numbers listed were counterfeit because they have the wrong number of digits and contain no letters. "Ireland has issued no passports in those names," the department said in a statement to The Associated Press.
Germany's Interior Ministry also said the five-digit passport number given for the lone German suspect is too short and lacks the letters that now appear on its passports.
Melvyn Adam Mildiner, 31, one of the men identified by the Dubai police Monday as a suspect, was shocked when an AP reporter reached him on the phone in Israel and read him the information released by Dubai officials.
Mildiner, who said he holds a British and an Israeli passport, confirmed the name and the passport number matched his but said the date of birth was a few days off.
He said he did not know how anybody obtained his U.K. passport, issued in 2001 and never reported lost.
Britain's Foreign Office said in a statement Tuesday that authorities were aware the "holders of six British passports have been named" as suspects in the case but added authorities believe the passports used were fraudulent.
Dubai officials have said they would seek assistance from the global police coordination agency Interpol and press individual nations to hunt down the suspects.
Attorney General Essam al-Hemaydan said Tuesday that international arrest warrants have been issued.
The account presented Monday by Dubai's police chief, Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim, included surveillance video clips from the suspects' airport arrivals to their hasty departures to Europe and Asia before al-Mabhouh's body was found in Room 230 at the Al-Bustan Rotana Hotel near Dubai's international airport.
Tamim said the suspects arrived in Dubai at different times, checked into different hotels and tailed al-Mabhouh from the moment of his arrival in Dubai to when he entered his hotel room. Some suspects even rode in the same elevator as al-Mabhouh to verify his room number and later booked a room across the hall, Tamim said.
They paid for all expenses in cash and used different cell phone cards to avoid being traced, Tamim said.
Surveillance footage shows the female suspect apparently wearing a wig and at times a big hat and sunglasses to blend in as a tourist. Others also were disguised as vacationers, wearing baseball caps or tennis outfits and carrying rackets. Tamim also said some suspects donned fake beards.
He said forensic tests indicated al-Mabhouh died of suffocation, but lab analyses were still under way to pinpoint other possible factors. Hamas initially claimed al-Mabhouh was poisoned and electrocuted, but later a Hamas leader, Mohammed Nazzal, denied that poison was used.
The killing itself took just 10 minutes, Tamim said.
Four assassins later entered his room while he was out, using an electronic device to open the door, and waited in ambush for al-Mabhouh to return.
Tamim said they were careful not to disturb anything in the room and left the door locked from the inside.
The team then headed for the airport, some of them flying to Europe and others to Asia, he said. All left Dubai – one of seven semiautonomous emirates that make up the United Arab Emirates – within 19 hours of their arrival.
Dubai police claimed that four members of the alleged cell carried out the killing. Five others, including the woman, were used as spotters and in other planning roles, police said. The mastermind was a man identified as French.
The consul general of France in Dubai, Nada Yafi, declined to comment.
A former high-ranking Mossad official, Rami Igra, told Israel Army Radio that the assassin "does look professional" as described by Dubai police. But Igra said it "doesn't look like an Israeli operation" because of the apparent shortcuts, such as allowing members to be videotaped by security cameras.
Igra declined to speculate on who could have carried out the slaying, but noted that al-Mabhouh has many enemies and was at the center of bloody Palestinian feuds.
"He was not new to terror ... and he had many contacts with people who had good reason to want him dead," he said.
The two detained Palestinians were Hamas operatives, said West Bank police spokesman Adnan Damiri, citing sources familiar with the investigation.
Hamas, however, claimed the suspects were linked to the rival Fatah movement of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as part of alleged clandestine links with Israeli intelligence.
In Amman, Jordan, government spokesman Nabil Sharif told the AP that Jordan turned the two Palestinians over to the United Arab Emirates "a few days ago." He declined to give their names or further details.
Top Hamas figures have denied reports that al-Mabhouh was en route to Iran, a major Hamas backer. But the group has not given clear reasons for his presence in Dubai.
Besides Mildiner, the other suspects were identified by Dubai police as Michael Lawrence Barney, James Leonard Clarke, Jonathan Louis Graham, Paul John Keeley and Stephen Daniel Hodes of Britain; Gail Folliard, Evan Dennings and Kevin Daveron of Ireland; Peter Elvinger of France and Michael Bodenheimer of Germany.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/16/mahmoud-al-mabhouh-murder_n_463667.html
AP) DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Dubai police appealed for an international manhunt Tuesday after releasing names and photos of an alleged 11-member European hit squad accused of stalking and killing a Hamas commander last month in a plot that mixed cold precision with spy caper disguises such as fake beards and wigs.
The case – as presented by Dubai authorities – rings of clockwork espionage and detailed planning that included suspects riding the same elevator as Mahmoud al-Mabhouh before he was slain in an ambush-style attack in a luxury hotel room that took no more than 10 minutes.
But questions emerged about the list of suspects after Dubai authorities released pictures, names and passport photos identifying them as six Britons, three Irish and one each from France and Germany.
[video]http://video.gulfnews.com/services/player/bcpid4267205001?bctid=66672644001[/video]
Ireland said the three alleged Irish citizens on the wanted list do not exist. In Germany, officials said the passport number give by Dubai for the lone German suspect is either incomplete or wrong.
Other elements also challenged the narrative presented by Dubai authorities, including how investigators pieced together the evidence pointing to an alleged European assassin team. Or why such an apparently well-planned operation would forget about the country's wide-ranging security cameras.
At least three people who live in Israel share names with suspects identified by Dubai police, Israel's Channel 2 news reported. Another man named as a suspect holds dual British-Israeli citizenship. Those connections are likely to encourage Hamas and others to press their claims that Israel's Mossad secret service masterminded the slaying. Hamas has vowed revenge.
Al-Mabhouh, one of the founders of Hamas' military wings, had been wanted by Israel for his role in the 1989 kidnapping and killing of two Israeli soldiers on leave – something that was acknowledged by Hamas last month.
Days after his body was found on Jan. 20, Israeli officials also pointedly accused al-Mabhouh of helping smuggle rockets into the Gaza Strip, the coastal territory ruled by Hamas.
Officials outside Dubai, however, said at least two Palestinians linked to the case were in Dubai custody, leaving Hamas and its Palestinian rivals trading bitter accusations.
Meanwhile, doubts were raised about some suspects' identities.
In Dublin, Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs said it could not find the three suspects in passport records and the numbers listed were counterfeit because they have the wrong number of digits and contain no letters. "Ireland has issued no passports in those names," the department said in a statement to The Associated Press.
Germany's Interior Ministry also said the five-digit passport number given for the lone German suspect is too short and lacks the letters that now appear on its passports.
Melvyn Adam Mildiner, 31, one of the men identified by the Dubai police Monday as a suspect, was shocked when an AP reporter reached him on the phone in Israel and read him the information released by Dubai officials.
Mildiner, who said he holds a British and an Israeli passport, confirmed the name and the passport number matched his but said the date of birth was a few days off.
He said he did not know how anybody obtained his U.K. passport, issued in 2001 and never reported lost.
Britain's Foreign Office said in a statement Tuesday that authorities were aware the "holders of six British passports have been named" as suspects in the case but added authorities believe the passports used were fraudulent.
Dubai officials have said they would seek assistance from the global police coordination agency Interpol and press individual nations to hunt down the suspects.
Attorney General Essam al-Hemaydan said Tuesday that international arrest warrants have been issued.
The account presented Monday by Dubai's police chief, Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim, included surveillance video clips from the suspects' airport arrivals to their hasty departures to Europe and Asia before al-Mabhouh's body was found in Room 230 at the Al-Bustan Rotana Hotel near Dubai's international airport.
Tamim said the suspects arrived in Dubai at different times, checked into different hotels and tailed al-Mabhouh from the moment of his arrival in Dubai to when he entered his hotel room. Some suspects even rode in the same elevator as al-Mabhouh to verify his room number and later booked a room across the hall, Tamim said.
They paid for all expenses in cash and used different cell phone cards to avoid being traced, Tamim said.
Surveillance footage shows the female suspect apparently wearing a wig and at times a big hat and sunglasses to blend in as a tourist. Others also were disguised as vacationers, wearing baseball caps or tennis outfits and carrying rackets. Tamim also said some suspects donned fake beards.
He said forensic tests indicated al-Mabhouh died of suffocation, but lab analyses were still under way to pinpoint other possible factors. Hamas initially claimed al-Mabhouh was poisoned and electrocuted, but later a Hamas leader, Mohammed Nazzal, denied that poison was used.
The killing itself took just 10 minutes, Tamim said.
Four assassins later entered his room while he was out, using an electronic device to open the door, and waited in ambush for al-Mabhouh to return.
Tamim said they were careful not to disturb anything in the room and left the door locked from the inside.
The team then headed for the airport, some of them flying to Europe and others to Asia, he said. All left Dubai – one of seven semiautonomous emirates that make up the United Arab Emirates – within 19 hours of their arrival.
Dubai police claimed that four members of the alleged cell carried out the killing. Five others, including the woman, were used as spotters and in other planning roles, police said. The mastermind was a man identified as French.
The consul general of France in Dubai, Nada Yafi, declined to comment.
A former high-ranking Mossad official, Rami Igra, told Israel Army Radio that the assassin "does look professional" as described by Dubai police. But Igra said it "doesn't look like an Israeli operation" because of the apparent shortcuts, such as allowing members to be videotaped by security cameras.
Igra declined to speculate on who could have carried out the slaying, but noted that al-Mabhouh has many enemies and was at the center of bloody Palestinian feuds.
"He was not new to terror ... and he had many contacts with people who had good reason to want him dead," he said.
The two detained Palestinians were Hamas operatives, said West Bank police spokesman Adnan Damiri, citing sources familiar with the investigation.
Hamas, however, claimed the suspects were linked to the rival Fatah movement of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as part of alleged clandestine links with Israeli intelligence.
In Amman, Jordan, government spokesman Nabil Sharif told the AP that Jordan turned the two Palestinians over to the United Arab Emirates "a few days ago." He declined to give their names or further details.
Top Hamas figures have denied reports that al-Mabhouh was en route to Iran, a major Hamas backer. But the group has not given clear reasons for his presence in Dubai.
Besides Mildiner, the other suspects were identified by Dubai police as Michael Lawrence Barney, James Leonard Clarke, Jonathan Louis Graham, Paul John Keeley and Stephen Daniel Hodes of Britain; Gail Folliard, Evan Dennings and Kevin Daveron of Ireland; Peter Elvinger of France and Michael Bodenheimer of Germany.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/16/mahmoud-al-mabhouh-murder_n_463667.html
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Religious intolerance is everywhere and is the chief cause of tensions but if you harbour thoughts same as the the racist down the street it would lead to nothing but self destruction the way out is understanding the practical importance of education in our lives most of the conflict is because we know little or nothing about the person residing next to us , those people who talk of religious brotherhood are simply trying to divide society based on their limited understanding of the problems faced by the suffering individuals
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Arabs rule out peace talks unless new settlements halted
SIRTE, Libya: Arab leaders on Sunday ruled out renewed Israeli-Palestinian peace talks unless Israel halts all new settlement building and urged US President Barack Obama to keep up his opposition.
At the end of a two-day summit in Libya, they called for Obama to remain loyal to his “initial and key position” to work to halt Jewish settlement on Palestinian land that posed a “dangerous obstacle” to peace efforts.
The summit was dominated by Israel’s announcement earlier this month of plans to build 1,600 settler homes in mainly Arab east al-Quds, which the Palestinians see as the capital of their future state.
US efforts to broker indirect “proximity” talks between Israel and the Palestinians were stymied by the announcement, which came just days after the Arabs had agreed to give negotiations another chance.
Arab leaders mulled legal and political measures to confront Israel and adopted a resolution to raise 500 million dollars in aid to help bolster the Palestinian presence in al-Quds, Arab League chief Amr Mussa said.
“The resumption of Palestinian-Israeli negotiations demands that Israel implements its legal commitments by stopping all settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories, including east al-Quds,” the final resolution read. The leaders’ statement insisted “on the need to have a timeframe for these negotiations and that they resume from where they left off and on the basis of what has been agreed upon in the peace process.”
The meeting in the coastal city of Sirte also agreed on “a plan of action that includes political and legal measures to confront Israel’s attempts to Judaise al-Quds and the repeated aggression on its holy sites.”
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told AFP that the fund is aimed at “enhancing the Palestinian presence in al-Quds,” which is the home of the Al-Aqsa mosque compound.
Arab League officials said the fund will be used to improve infrastructure, build water wells, hospitals and schools as well as to provide financial compensation to Palestinians evicted from their homes by Israeli authorities.
Peace talks were broken off during Israel’s devastating December 2008-January 2009 assault on Gaza Strip.
Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas already on Saturday ruled out new talks with the Jewish state until it halts settlements, despite agreeing earlier this month to US calls to enter into indirect negotiations with Israel.
“We cannot resume indirect negotiations as long as Israel maintains its settlement policy and the status quo,” Abbas told the summit’s opening session.
Mussa, who said ahead of the summit that talks with Israel had become “pointless,” urged Arab leaders to mull their options in case of a total collapse of the Middle East peace process.
Abbas also warned on Saturday that “wars can erupt if Israeli violations continue” and urged Arab nations to “rescue” al-Quds.
The international community has never recognised Israel’s annexation of east al-Quds after the 1967 Middle East war, when it captured the West Bank, and considers all settlements illegal.
UN chief Ban Ki-moon, in an address to the summit on the opening day, sought Arab support for US-brokered indirect talks while stressing that al-Quds must emerge as the “capital of two states.”
http://www.thenews.com.pk
SIRTE, Libya: Arab leaders on Sunday ruled out renewed Israeli-Palestinian peace talks unless Israel halts all new settlement building and urged US President Barack Obama to keep up his opposition.
At the end of a two-day summit in Libya, they called for Obama to remain loyal to his “initial and key position” to work to halt Jewish settlement on Palestinian land that posed a “dangerous obstacle” to peace efforts.
The summit was dominated by Israel’s announcement earlier this month of plans to build 1,600 settler homes in mainly Arab east al-Quds, which the Palestinians see as the capital of their future state.
US efforts to broker indirect “proximity” talks between Israel and the Palestinians were stymied by the announcement, which came just days after the Arabs had agreed to give negotiations another chance.
Arab leaders mulled legal and political measures to confront Israel and adopted a resolution to raise 500 million dollars in aid to help bolster the Palestinian presence in al-Quds, Arab League chief Amr Mussa said.
“The resumption of Palestinian-Israeli negotiations demands that Israel implements its legal commitments by stopping all settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories, including east al-Quds,” the final resolution read. The leaders’ statement insisted “on the need to have a timeframe for these negotiations and that they resume from where they left off and on the basis of what has been agreed upon in the peace process.”
The meeting in the coastal city of Sirte also agreed on “a plan of action that includes political and legal measures to confront Israel’s attempts to Judaise al-Quds and the repeated aggression on its holy sites.”
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told AFP that the fund is aimed at “enhancing the Palestinian presence in al-Quds,” which is the home of the Al-Aqsa mosque compound.
Arab League officials said the fund will be used to improve infrastructure, build water wells, hospitals and schools as well as to provide financial compensation to Palestinians evicted from their homes by Israeli authorities.
Peace talks were broken off during Israel’s devastating December 2008-January 2009 assault on Gaza Strip.
Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas already on Saturday ruled out new talks with the Jewish state until it halts settlements, despite agreeing earlier this month to US calls to enter into indirect negotiations with Israel.
“We cannot resume indirect negotiations as long as Israel maintains its settlement policy and the status quo,” Abbas told the summit’s opening session.
Mussa, who said ahead of the summit that talks with Israel had become “pointless,” urged Arab leaders to mull their options in case of a total collapse of the Middle East peace process.
Abbas also warned on Saturday that “wars can erupt if Israeli violations continue” and urged Arab nations to “rescue” al-Quds.
The international community has never recognised Israel’s annexation of east al-Quds after the 1967 Middle East war, when it captured the West Bank, and considers all settlements illegal.
UN chief Ban Ki-moon, in an address to the summit on the opening day, sought Arab support for US-brokered indirect talks while stressing that al-Quds must emerge as the “capital of two states.”
http://www.thenews.com.pk
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Israel's PM welcomes progress toward peace talks
By ARON HELLER (AP) – 13 hours ago
JERUSALEM — Israel's prime minister on Sunday welcomed the Arab nations' endorsement of indirect, U.S.-brokered peace talks with the Palestinians.
Benjamin Netanyahu's office said the prime minister still awaited a formal Palestinian statement on the resumption of peace talks, but renewed his willingness to restart them "at any time and at any place" while insisting they begin "without preconditions."
The executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization, or PLO, was expected to meet Saturday to officially announce a resumption of the talks.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has said the talks were to start soon, and U.S. Mideast envoy George Mitchell was expected back in the region later this week.
The last round of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks broke down in late 2008, reportedly while on the verge of an agreement.
The Palestinians have since refused to sit down with Israel until it agrees to freeze all construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem — two areas that the Palestinians want for an independent state along with the Gaza Strip.
Netanyahu has imposed a 10-month slowdown in settlement building that the Palestinians have rejected as insufficient.
The indirect talks, with Mitchell shuttling between the two sides, are seen as a compromise.
A first attempt to get indirect talks going collapsed in March when Israel announced plans for building new Jewish housing units in an east Jerusalem neighborhood. The decision drew fierce criticism from the United States and led to the worst rift between the two allies in decades.
The Arab League's endorsement of the talks on Saturday sticks to a four-month window voted on in March, officially leaving the U.S. only two months to make headway in the shuttle negotiations.
Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said the Arab League will review this decision in July, two months after the start of the proximity talks, with the possibility of extending talks another two months.
An Israeli government official said he hoped the talks would lead to direct peace negotiations that ultimately touch on all the contested issues between the parties — such as final borders, refugees and the status of Jerusalem.
"Israel believes that the core issues to the conflict can only be resolved in the framework of direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians," he said. "Having said that, we have agreed that in the framework of the proximity talks there can be preliminary discussions on the core issues. We see the proximity talks as a corridor into the direct talks."
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the future talks.
Israeli President Shimon Peres expressed optimism about the developments.
"It looks like we are very close to begin the proximity talks," he said before meeting visiting Danish Foreign Minister Lene Espersen. "It took a little longer than we hoped for and problems are not yet solved but at least the way to handle them is open."
Erekat insisted that talks were still pending on a final decision this Saturday, but said the outline was clear.
"We have agreed that the final status negotiations will last 24 months and we hope that in the four months of proximity talks we can achieve results that enable us to go for direct talks," he said. "Israel needs to choose between peace and settlements."
Israel's PM welcomes progress toward peace talks
By ARON HELLER (AP) – 13 hours ago
JERUSALEM — Israel's prime minister on Sunday welcomed the Arab nations' endorsement of indirect, U.S.-brokered peace talks with the Palestinians.
Benjamin Netanyahu's office said the prime minister still awaited a formal Palestinian statement on the resumption of peace talks, but renewed his willingness to restart them "at any time and at any place" while insisting they begin "without preconditions."
The executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization, or PLO, was expected to meet Saturday to officially announce a resumption of the talks.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has said the talks were to start soon, and U.S. Mideast envoy George Mitchell was expected back in the region later this week.
The last round of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks broke down in late 2008, reportedly while on the verge of an agreement.
The Palestinians have since refused to sit down with Israel until it agrees to freeze all construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem — two areas that the Palestinians want for an independent state along with the Gaza Strip.
Netanyahu has imposed a 10-month slowdown in settlement building that the Palestinians have rejected as insufficient.
The indirect talks, with Mitchell shuttling between the two sides, are seen as a compromise.
A first attempt to get indirect talks going collapsed in March when Israel announced plans for building new Jewish housing units in an east Jerusalem neighborhood. The decision drew fierce criticism from the United States and led to the worst rift between the two allies in decades.
The Arab League's endorsement of the talks on Saturday sticks to a four-month window voted on in March, officially leaving the U.S. only two months to make headway in the shuttle negotiations.
Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said the Arab League will review this decision in July, two months after the start of the proximity talks, with the possibility of extending talks another two months.
An Israeli government official said he hoped the talks would lead to direct peace negotiations that ultimately touch on all the contested issues between the parties — such as final borders, refugees and the status of Jerusalem.
"Israel believes that the core issues to the conflict can only be resolved in the framework of direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians," he said. "Having said that, we have agreed that in the framework of the proximity talks there can be preliminary discussions on the core issues. We see the proximity talks as a corridor into the direct talks."
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the future talks.
Israeli President Shimon Peres expressed optimism about the developments.
"It looks like we are very close to begin the proximity talks," he said before meeting visiting Danish Foreign Minister Lene Espersen. "It took a little longer than we hoped for and problems are not yet solved but at least the way to handle them is open."
Erekat insisted that talks were still pending on a final decision this Saturday, but said the outline was clear.
"We have agreed that the final status negotiations will last 24 months and we hope that in the four months of proximity talks we can achieve results that enable us to go for direct talks," he said. "Israel needs to choose between peace and settlements."
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Israelis Concerned that its Missile Defenses could be Overwhelmed
Despite the efforts of Israel's defense industry to develop a range of anti-missile systems, Israeli security officials are increasingly concerned the Jewish state doesn't have enough protection against Hezbollah's growing arsenal.The Syrian-manufactured M600 missiles Hezbollah reportedly received in 2009 are seen as a particular threat. These carry guidance systems, unlike most of the 45,000 rockets and missiles Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak says the Iranian-backed Lebanese movement possesses.
The head of the Israeli air force's air defense command, Brig. Gen. Doron Gavish has said that the systems currently deployed in Israel could be overwhelmed by "the massive deployment of weapons of this type in enemy countries and terror organizations."
Gavish's comments, made at Israel's first international conference on anti-missile systems near Tel Aviv, "left no room for doubt about Israel's concerns over the tens of thousands of rockets and advanced missiles being acquired by Syria, Iran and Hezbollah," the liberal Haaretz daily reported.
At present, the air force operates several batteries of the Arrow-2 anti-ballistic missile interceptors that are designed to destroy long-range missiles like Iran's Shehab-3B and its successor, the Sejjil-2, which has yet to become operational.
The Arrow, developed in the 1990s by Israel Aircraft Industries -- now Israel Aerospace Industries -- is considered reliable as a high-altitude, long-range interceptor.
The more advanced Arrow-3, when it becomes operational, will be even more effective. But it has never been tested in action against a mass assault by Iranian ballistic missiles.
The Arrow is the top-tier of a planned Israeli multi-layered, interlinked missile defense shield. Iron Dome, the bottom tier, has just become operational with one battery deployed and another preparing to do so.
It is designed to knock out short-range missiles such as the 122mm Katyushas and Grads used by Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
But Israeli officials argue that the air force will need at least another dozen batteries to cope with the hundreds of missiles and rockets that Hezbollah alone could unleash on a daily basis for a prolonged period.
During Hezbollah's 34-day war with Israel in July and August 2006, Hezbollah hammered northern Israel with nearly 4,000 rockets and the plan for an integrated missile defense system effectively emerged from that experience.
At that time, Israel had no dedicated anti-missile defenses against such a sustained and unprecedented barrage and the air force was unable to counter it.
Hezbollah was able to fire 150 to 200 projectiles a day for a month out of an arsenal of some 12,000-13,000.
"If that ratio is maintained today, with a (Hezbollah) arsenal of 45,000 rockets, we can expect 15,000 rockets to be fired at Israel and possibly far more," observed Chuck Freilich, a former deputy security adviser in Israel and now a senior fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School.
"This poses new and heretofore unknown threats to Israel's home front and makes it truly essential that Israel gets it right this time."
The middle tier of the intended missile shield, a system known as David's Sling, sometimes called Magic Wand, is being developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and U.S. defense giant Raytheon.
It is designed to counter mid-range missiles but is unlikely to become operational, even in limited numbers, until 2013 at the earliest.
Much has been made in recent weeks of Israel's claim that Syria has supplied Hezbollah with Soviet-era ballistic Scud missiles with a range of up to 430 miles. This has been greeted with considerable skepticism, since Hezbollah, whose military doctrine is largely based on agility, mobility and deception, has little need for a system that is so cumbersome, vulnerable and inaccurate.
The road-mobile M600, the Syrian version of Iran's Fateh-110 missile, is more accurate, although it carries a smaller warhead, and can be launched within minutes because it uses solid fuel. It has a range of 190 miles.
"M600s are the true threat Hezbollah poses to Israel," Haaretz's diplomatic correspondent Amos Harel wrote in Thursday's edition.
"With enough M600s, Hezbollah could systematically bombard Israel's most strategic sites. Israel's missile defense systems, meanwhile, are far from adequateÂ"¦
"Unless the Israel Defense Force starts bolstering its defensive capabilities -- and not just its offensive ones -- it risks being prepared for the most convenient scenario, rather than the one that is actually likely to happen."
http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/05/israelis-concerned-that-its-missile.html#more
Despite the efforts of Israel's defense industry to develop a range of anti-missile systems, Israeli security officials are increasingly concerned the Jewish state doesn't have enough protection against Hezbollah's growing arsenal.The Syrian-manufactured M600 missiles Hezbollah reportedly received in 2009 are seen as a particular threat. These carry guidance systems, unlike most of the 45,000 rockets and missiles Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak says the Iranian-backed Lebanese movement possesses.
The head of the Israeli air force's air defense command, Brig. Gen. Doron Gavish has said that the systems currently deployed in Israel could be overwhelmed by "the massive deployment of weapons of this type in enemy countries and terror organizations."
Gavish's comments, made at Israel's first international conference on anti-missile systems near Tel Aviv, "left no room for doubt about Israel's concerns over the tens of thousands of rockets and advanced missiles being acquired by Syria, Iran and Hezbollah," the liberal Haaretz daily reported.
At present, the air force operates several batteries of the Arrow-2 anti-ballistic missile interceptors that are designed to destroy long-range missiles like Iran's Shehab-3B and its successor, the Sejjil-2, which has yet to become operational.
The Arrow, developed in the 1990s by Israel Aircraft Industries -- now Israel Aerospace Industries -- is considered reliable as a high-altitude, long-range interceptor.
The more advanced Arrow-3, when it becomes operational, will be even more effective. But it has never been tested in action against a mass assault by Iranian ballistic missiles.
The Arrow is the top-tier of a planned Israeli multi-layered, interlinked missile defense shield. Iron Dome, the bottom tier, has just become operational with one battery deployed and another preparing to do so.
It is designed to knock out short-range missiles such as the 122mm Katyushas and Grads used by Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
But Israeli officials argue that the air force will need at least another dozen batteries to cope with the hundreds of missiles and rockets that Hezbollah alone could unleash on a daily basis for a prolonged period.
During Hezbollah's 34-day war with Israel in July and August 2006, Hezbollah hammered northern Israel with nearly 4,000 rockets and the plan for an integrated missile defense system effectively emerged from that experience.
At that time, Israel had no dedicated anti-missile defenses against such a sustained and unprecedented barrage and the air force was unable to counter it.
Hezbollah was able to fire 150 to 200 projectiles a day for a month out of an arsenal of some 12,000-13,000.
"If that ratio is maintained today, with a (Hezbollah) arsenal of 45,000 rockets, we can expect 15,000 rockets to be fired at Israel and possibly far more," observed Chuck Freilich, a former deputy security adviser in Israel and now a senior fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School.
"This poses new and heretofore unknown threats to Israel's home front and makes it truly essential that Israel gets it right this time."
The middle tier of the intended missile shield, a system known as David's Sling, sometimes called Magic Wand, is being developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and U.S. defense giant Raytheon.
It is designed to counter mid-range missiles but is unlikely to become operational, even in limited numbers, until 2013 at the earliest.
Much has been made in recent weeks of Israel's claim that Syria has supplied Hezbollah with Soviet-era ballistic Scud missiles with a range of up to 430 miles. This has been greeted with considerable skepticism, since Hezbollah, whose military doctrine is largely based on agility, mobility and deception, has little need for a system that is so cumbersome, vulnerable and inaccurate.
The road-mobile M600, the Syrian version of Iran's Fateh-110 missile, is more accurate, although it carries a smaller warhead, and can be launched within minutes because it uses solid fuel. It has a range of 190 miles.
"M600s are the true threat Hezbollah poses to Israel," Haaretz's diplomatic correspondent Amos Harel wrote in Thursday's edition.
"With enough M600s, Hezbollah could systematically bombard Israel's most strategic sites. Israel's missile defense systems, meanwhile, are far from adequateÂ"¦
"Unless the Israel Defense Force starts bolstering its defensive capabilities -- and not just its offensive ones -- it risks being prepared for the most convenient scenario, rather than the one that is actually likely to happen."
http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/05/israelis-concerned-that-its-missile.html#more
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Lebanon Fires on Israeli Warplanes: Security Official
JERUSALEM - Lebanon's military fired anti-aircraft artillery at Israeli warplanes that were flying over Lebanon, a senior Israeli security official said on Tuesday.
"Our aircraft have been targeted by the Lebanese anti-aircraft guns while flying over southern Lebanon, and there was no damage," the official who requested the anonymity told AFP.
A military spokesperson neither confirmed nor denied the report.
Lebanon issues almost daily reports of Israeli violations of its air space, but its military rarely opens fire unless the planes fly within range of its guns.
The overflights violate UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which ended a devastating 2006 war between Israel and Lebanon's Shiite Hezbollah militia, but Israel argues they are needed to monitor arms smuggling
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4652249&c=MID&s=TOP
JERUSALEM - Lebanon's military fired anti-aircraft artillery at Israeli warplanes that were flying over Lebanon, a senior Israeli security official said on Tuesday.
"Our aircraft have been targeted by the Lebanese anti-aircraft guns while flying over southern Lebanon, and there was no damage," the official who requested the anonymity told AFP.
A military spokesperson neither confirmed nor denied the report.
Lebanon issues almost daily reports of Israeli violations of its air space, but its military rarely opens fire unless the planes fly within range of its guns.
The overflights violate UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which ended a devastating 2006 war between Israel and Lebanon's Shiite Hezbollah militia, but Israel argues they are needed to monitor arms smuggling
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4652249&c=MID&s=TOP
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Deadly Israel-Lebanon border clash
Lebanese and Israeli soldiers have exchanged fire along their shared border, with each reporting casualties.
Three Lebanese soldiers and a journalist were killed, Lebanese sources confirmed. Lebanon said the Israelis had crossed the border.
Israel said two of its soldiers had been shot in a buffer zone, but that troops had remained on its side.
Israel's foreign ministry warned Lebanon of "consequences" if violence continued.
"Israel views the Lebanese government as responsible for this serious incident," a ministry statement said.
In a statement, Lebanon's Prime Minister Saad Hariri condemned Israeli "aggression" and said Lebanese sovereignty had been violated.
The clash is the most serious incident since a 2006 conflict between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah militants.
Artillery fire
There are conflicting accounts of what triggered the gunfire.
The Lebanese army says it started firing after warning Israeli soldiers not to uproot a tree blocking their view in the village of Adaysseh on the Lebanese side.
Israel then replied with artillery fire, Lebanese officials said.
Hezbollah's Al-Manar television said an Israeli high-ranking military officer had also been caught up in the shooting, but this was not confirmed.
The Israeli army said its forces were working on its side of the border, near the town of Kiryat Shemona, when they received warnings to leave the area.
"The soldiers were on routine activity in Israeli territory, in an area that lies between the "blue line" (the internationally recognised border between Israel and Lebanon) and the security fence, thus within Israeli territory," the IDF said in a statement.
People in Lebanese army uniform then opened fire on the troops, injuring two Israeli soldiers, the army said.
The UN peacekeeping force stationed in southern Lebanon has urged both sides to show "maximum restraint" following the clash.
The BBC's Wyre Davies, in Jerusalem, says the clash is an indication of the many tensions still along the Israel-Lebanon border.
The exchange comes a day after rockets were fired at the Israeli resort of Eilat, with a stray rocket killing one person in the nearby port of Aqaba in Jordan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10851692
Lebanese and Israeli soldiers have exchanged fire along their shared border, with each reporting casualties.
Three Lebanese soldiers and a journalist were killed, Lebanese sources confirmed. Lebanon said the Israelis had crossed the border.
Israel said two of its soldiers had been shot in a buffer zone, but that troops had remained on its side.
Israel's foreign ministry warned Lebanon of "consequences" if violence continued.
"Israel views the Lebanese government as responsible for this serious incident," a ministry statement said.
In a statement, Lebanon's Prime Minister Saad Hariri condemned Israeli "aggression" and said Lebanese sovereignty had been violated.
The clash is the most serious incident since a 2006 conflict between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah militants.
Artillery fire
There are conflicting accounts of what triggered the gunfire.
The Lebanese army says it started firing after warning Israeli soldiers not to uproot a tree blocking their view in the village of Adaysseh on the Lebanese side.
Israel then replied with artillery fire, Lebanese officials said.
Hezbollah's Al-Manar television said an Israeli high-ranking military officer had also been caught up in the shooting, but this was not confirmed.
The Israeli army said its forces were working on its side of the border, near the town of Kiryat Shemona, when they received warnings to leave the area.
"The soldiers were on routine activity in Israeli territory, in an area that lies between the "blue line" (the internationally recognised border between Israel and Lebanon) and the security fence, thus within Israeli territory," the IDF said in a statement.
People in Lebanese army uniform then opened fire on the troops, injuring two Israeli soldiers, the army said.
The UN peacekeeping force stationed in southern Lebanon has urged both sides to show "maximum restraint" following the clash.
The BBC's Wyre Davies, in Jerusalem, says the clash is an indication of the many tensions still along the Israel-Lebanon border.
The exchange comes a day after rockets were fired at the Israeli resort of Eilat, with a stray rocket killing one person in the nearby port of Aqaba in Jordan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10851692
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IDF opens probe into death of Palestinian protester.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...-into-death-of-palestinian-protester-1.334759
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^^ And Palestinians complain that Israel doesn't give a damn. Shows their bigotry and also shows where our lunatics from Kashmir's "separatist" brigade are learning their tricks. Both of them have something in common: both are a bunch of ungrateful, thankless, coward, wretches who don't deserve human rights.
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what nonsense are you posting ? palestinians have legitimate cause while kashmirs don't.
palestinians have suffered from jews and have been backstabbed by arabs. jews before muslims were bombing hotels and other civilian areas to carve out israel from palestine.
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