Indian Missile Development

[The Messiah]

Currently no one but we dont what enemies or hostile countries we'll have to content with in the future.

I agree with you about those SLBM's.

 

[Param]

Currently no one but we dont what enemies or hostile countries we'll have to content with in the future.

Even then we don't need land based 15000 km ICBMs. A good fleet of SLBMs would do. Anyway If we nuke half of China, they would go berserk & start ww3.

 

[Illusive]

To target what country? we don't need that. We only need 5000km range ones to target China. Maybe a small fleet of SSBNs with 8 to 10,000 km SLBMs in the future would also be a good idea.

I think to be a global military power you must have the capabilities to strike anywhere , its not to target anyone but to safegaurd our security that any hostility towards India wont be a good option since they know we have them in range , also we need a card against US if it tries to poke its nose in Indian affairs and its seas , just my opinion.

 

[sayareakd]

Guys A5 (SL) with MIRVs will be ultimate weapon, as per our requirements with around 10 ATVs with increased number of launch tubes (probably 12) (unlike the present 4) in ATV-1. Now you guys can calculate that one sub with 10 missile (leaving 2 for training) with at least three nuclear MIRVs will be total 30 Nukes at sea read to launch with 5000 KM range missile, is ultimate weapon.

in future max number of deployed nukes will be submarine base.

 

[Agantrope]

Guys A5 (SL) with MIRVs will be ultimate weapon, as per our requirements with around 10 ATVs with increased number of launch tubes (probably 12) (unlike the present 4) in ATV-1. Now you guys can calculate that one sub with 10 missile (leaving 2 for training) with at least three nuclear MIRVs will be total 30 Nukes at sea read to launch with 5000 KM range missile, is ultimate weapon.

in future max number of deployed nukes will be submarine base.

Do we have enough warhead for these number of missiles?

 

[The Messiah]

I think to be a global military power you must have the capabilities to strike anywhere , its not to target anyone but to safegaurd our security that any hostility towards India wont be a good option since they know we have them in range , also we need a card against US if it tries to poke its nose in Indian affairs and its seas , just my opinion.

Agreed. We must have europe and usa within range so they dont mess with us in future...i have zero trust in either of them.

Point is if china can have it then we should also have it.

 

[vishal_lionheart]

Pakistan's missile prowess​

Various news reports are filtering int which shed light on the astronomical success of the Pakistani Nuclear program. Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is expanding faster than any other nation's. Independent analysts are astonished at the speed of development of new weapon systems and the robust testing and their operationalization. While the exact number of potent Pakistani Nuclear bombs is a closely guarded secret, the actual number of Pakistani Nuclear bombs is estimated to be more than 350. One such report comes from Mr. Hans Kristensen of the Federation of American Scientists. Mr. Kristrnsen's information does not reveal new secrets. The entire world knows that the Shaheen II was displayed in a Pakistan Day parade in 2003. The planet also knows that Pakistan has been testing this long range missile since 2004. It has taken Pakistan about four years of intensive testing to perfec the Shaheen II missiles. Various new programs are germinated during testing. The fact that the Shaeen II has been operationalized should come as a surprise only to the very naive.

Work on the Raad and Babur missiles began a decade ago. Mr. Kristrnsen's epiphany about the cruse missiles is a surprise and sheds some light on the investigatve strengths and weaknesses of the Federation of American Scientists. However independent confirmation of Pakistani announcements is always a good thing for all concerned.
http://moinansari.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/masroor-ariforce-base-storage-bunkers-are-fake.jpg?w=438&h=326
Hans M. Kristensen is Director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists where he provides the public with analysis and background information about the status of nuclear forces and the role of nuclear weapons. He specializes in using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) in his research and is a frequent consultant to and is widely referenced in the news media on the role and status of nuclear weapons.

Mr Kristensen wrote that Pakistan's nuclear-capable Shaheen-II medium-range ballistic missile also appears to be approaching operational deployment after long preparation. (Development flight tests of the Shaheen-II began in March 2004 when a 26-ton missile was launched from Pakistan's Somiani Flight Test Range on the Arabian Sea)..a 700-2,500km-range missile dubbed as the Shaheen-II, about which little is known.[30] Mock-ups of the missile displayed during the National Day celebrations in March 2003 suggest that it is a two-stage, solid-motor, road mobile system, transported on a 12-wheel TEL vehicle
The Army test-launched two missiles within three days in April 2008, and the US Air Force National Air and Space Intelligence Centre (NASIC) reported in June 2009 that the weapon "probably will soon be deployed," he noted.
Two types of nuclear-capable cruise missiles are also under development —— the ground-launched Babur and the air-aunched Ra—ad, Mr Kristensen said.
Two new plutonium production reactors and a second chemical separation facility are also under construction by Pakistan.
Mr Kristensen said that the development of cruise missiles with nuclear capability is interesting because it suggests that Pakistan's nuclear weapons designers have been successful in building smaller and lighter plutonium warheads.
Hatf-VI (IRBM) Shaheen II is Pakistan's longest-range ballistic missile system with a range of 2000 kilometers and has the potential to achieve 2500 kilometers in an advanced version. It is a two-stage solid fuel missile which can carry nuclear and conventional warheads with high accuracy.

April 26, 2008: Pakistan announced that, after nearly a decade of development, its Hatf VI IRBM (Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile) is ready for service. The system, also called Shaheen II, has a range of 2,000 kilometers, can carry a nuclear warhead, and hit any part of India. At least a dozen of these missiles are being built, andmoved around on mobile transporter/launchers. The Hatf VI will be a major part of Pakistan's nuclear deterrent against Indian invasion

"¦ a 700-2,500km-range missile dubbed as the Shaheen-II, about which little is known.[30] Mock-ups of the missile displayed during the National Day celebrations in March 2003 suggest that it is a two-stage, solid-motor, road mobile system, transported on a 12-wheel TEL vehicle. Analysts speculate that the Shaheen-II is possibly a two-stage version of the M-9, or more likely a copy of the M-18, which was publicly displayed at an exhibition in Beijing in either 1987 or 1988. The M-18 was originally advertised as a two-stage system with a payload capacity of 400-500kg over a range of 1,000km.[31] U.S. intelligence sources suggest that Pakistan remains heavily reliant on external assistance for the Shaheen-II program and that China is actively assisting Pakistan through the supply of missile components, specialty materials, dual-use items, and other miscellaneous forms of technical assistance.[32].

Development flight tests of the Shaheen-II began in March 2004 when a 26-ton missile was launched from Pakistan's Somiani Flight Test Range on the Arabian Sea.[33] According to the Chairman of Pakistan's National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) Dr. Samar Mubarakmand, the missile covered a distance of 1,800km during the test. [34]. The missile was tested in March 2005, April 2006, and February 2007.[55] Subsequently, reports in summer 2007 stated that Pakistan had begun the process of deployment of the Shaheen-II.[53]

The missile's basic airframe is made from steel, although some sections may be crafted out of aluminum. The propulsion system is a liquid rocket engine that uses a storable combination of inhibited red fuming nitric acid and kerosene. During the boost phase, four jet vanes are used for thrust vector control. It is also believed that the missile uses three body-mounted gyros for attitude and lateral acceleration control. In addition, "a pendulum integration gyro assembly serves for speed control." The Nodong's range and throw weight has been variously estimated between 800-1,500km and 700-1,300kg, respectively.

Much to the chagrin of its enemies, Pakistan has expedited its nuclear program. The ISIS makes it look its breaking news. It is now reporting that Pakistan has a Plutonium program. The ISIS analysts may have been living in a cave, because Islamabad has always had a Plutonium program. Obviously the program is ongoing and and will surely add to the number of bombs that it possesses. The New York Times revealed the following

The subtext of the argument is growing concern about the speed with which Pakistan is developing new generations of both conventional and nuclear weapons. "There's a concerted effort to get these guys to slow down,"
At issue is the detection by American intelligence agencies of a suspicious missile test on April 23 — a test never announced by the Pakistanis — that appeared to give the country a new offensive weapon.
Pakistan's multifaceted missile program has various components

Short Range Missiles: Hataf
Medium Range Missiles: Shaheen
Long Range Missiles: Ghauri
ICBM/SLV: Taimur
Pakistan's atomic weapons stockpile has jumped to an estimated 70-90 warheads from a previous figure of 60 and it is also developing two new types of nuclear-capable cruise missiles, according to a top American scientist.

Writing for the Federation of American Scientists (FAS), Hans M Kristensen cited the latest Nuclear Notebook published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists to highlight Pakistan's expansion of its nuclear warheads.

The estimate of 70-90 nuclear warheads in Pakistan's atomic weapons stockpile is an increase compared with the previous estimate of approximately 60 warheads due to Islamabad's pending introduction of a new ballistic missile and cruise missiles, he said.

Mr Kristensen wrote that Pakistan's nuclear-capable Shaheen-II medium-range ballistic missile also appears to be approaching operational deployment after long preparation.

The Army test-launched two missiles within three days in April 2008, and the US Air Force National Air and Space Intelligence Centre (NASIC) reported in June 2009 that the weapon "probably will soon be deployed," he noted.

Two types of nuclear-capable cruise missiles are also under development —— the ground-launched Babur and the air-aunched Ra—ad, Mr Kristensen said.

Two new plutonium production reactors and a second chemical separation facility are also under construction by Pakistan.

YouTube - Targeting Pakistani Nukes: 'Don't Mess With Us'
Mr Kristensen said that the development of cruise missiles with nuclear capability is interesting because it suggests that Pakistan's nuclear weapons designers have been successful in building smaller and lighter plutonium warheads.

He also noted that a recent article in the CTC Sentinel news letter of the Combating Terrorism Centre at the US Military Academy at West Point had said that "most" of Pakistan's nuclear sites might be close to or even within terrorist dominated areas.

Senior US officials were quoted as saying that the weapons were mostly located south of Islamabad, Mr Kristensen said.

According to the latest Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, it is exceedingly difficult to estimate precisely how many nuclear weapons Pakistan has produced, how many are deployed and of what types. However, Pakistan's nuclear arsenal may not have reached 100 warheads as of yet.

Pakistan is thought to have produced approximately 2,000 kg of highly enriched uranium and 90 kg of separated military plutonium by early 2008, it said.

Pakistan is also expanding its capabilities to reprocess plutonium. Satellite images show that Pakistan is constructing a second separation facility adjacent to the Pakistan Institute of Nuclear Science and Technology in Rawalpindi, that could handle the plutonium produced in the two new Khushab reactors, it said. Pak's n-arsenal contains up to 90 warheads: US scientisthttp://beta.thehindu.com/news/article13329.ece?homepage=true

 

[Sri]

Agni-V To Be Test Fired in 2011: DRDO
Agni-V To Be Test Fired in 2011: DRDO | India Defence

Newspaper reports quote V.K. Saraswat, Director General of the DRDO confirming that the Agni-V Intermediate Range Missile will be test fired in 2011. The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is an agency of the Indian Government, responsible for the development of technology for use by the military.

V.K. Saraswat, who is also the Scientific Advisor to the Ministry of Defence, has been quoted as saying:
"Agni-V should be ready to be test-fired anytime next year. It is an intermediate-range ballistic missile .. Over the past 15 years, the successful launches of the Prithvi, Agni and BrahMos missiles have proved that the country's missile programme has reached a mature level,"

The Agni-V is a three stage solid fueled missile with composite motor casing in the third stage. Two stages of this missile will be made of composite material. Agni-V will be able to carry multiple warheads and will have countermeasures against Anti-ballistic missile systems. The Agni-V will be the first canisterised, road-mobile missile in India's arsenal. India's current long-range missile, the Agni-3, a non-canisterised missile, can only be moved with difficulty from one place to another.

 

[ironman]

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

india should definately go for surya icbm after agni v. its developement should be kept in a open secret condition(like ins arihant) till its first test flight

 

[Illusive]

india should definately go for surya icbm after agni v. its developement should be kept in a open secret condition(like ins arihant) till its first test flight

Even if India had to test its ICBM, it would keep the details under wraps since there would be global pressure on India to drop the programme if finds out India is testing an ICBM and also India wont develop ICBM until there enough fissile material to develop on a large scale since developing it now would hit the N-deal with US.

 

[nitesh]

The Hindu : News / National : Prithvi-II fails to take off in user trial

The missile having a range of 350 km was launched by personnel of the Strategic Forces Command as part of training exercise around 10 a.m. However, the rocket engine stopped functioning a few seconds after the launch command was given and failed to provide the necessary thrust for the missile to blast off from the launch pad.

Various likely causes for the malfunctioning of the engine, including whether there was a problem with the liquid propellant or if there was an absence of free flow of the fuel in the pipelines or if there was a snag during the command were being looked into, according to official sources. Exact reasons would be known in two or three days after the entire data was analysed.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

INDIA should test Agni-V as soon as possible. INDIA should show that we have the capability of developing the technology that INDIA was denied by the developed countries. :emot154:

 

[sathya]

what happened to agni 2 AT test in sept month ?

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

when will pdv be tested?

 

[pbabu266]

To target what country? we don't need that. We only need 5000km range ones to target China. Maybe a small fleet of SSBNs with 8 to 10,000 km SLBMs in the future would also be a good idea.

i agree with you missiles are developed targeting enemy countries only. but who knows the future as of now we must develop the "Technology Demonstrator ICBM" to improve our knowledge in real ICBM and avoid inducing into military.

this may help india's further research...

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Please follow this link

http://www.npolicy.org/files/060207SpeierICBM.pdf

do you think INDIA already possesses ICBM?

 

[plugwater]

India's Anti-Tank HELINA To Spawn Longer Range Strike Weapon

India's Defence Research & Development Laboratory (DRDL) plans to extend the range of the HELINA (Helicopter-mounted Nag) anti-armour missile into a >20-km range strike munition. HELINA project director KS Vara Prasad has indicated that his team is building a "miniaturised inertial navigation package" to enhance the existing weapon without adding weight or too much cost.

The HELINA, an air-launched variant of the Nag anti-tank missile, has a range of 7-km and has been captive flight-tested, with a scheduled first firing for later this year. The programme director has also revealed that a feasibility study is officially on to integrate the HELINA onto the Rustom-H MALE UAV. More details soon.

http://livefist.blogspot.com/

 

[youngindian]

Nag induction likely to be delayed

The induction of third generation anti-tank Nag missile is likely to be delayed by more than a year with the Army seeking improvements to the specially-made missile carrier, Namica.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/article1707562.ece

 

[nitesh]

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