India ignores US call for economic freeze, opens up Iran oil strategy

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It will be interesting to see if SCO countries & India walk the same line.
 

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Indian route will warm the nationalist heart.

However, oil is not the only input that boost the economy.

Upsetting the US and the West will have its own repercussions.

International politics is but a policy that has works on comprises which euphemistically is called 'peaceful coexistence'.
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Iran's utility remains multi fold starting from energy needs to our access to central asia to their role in a'stan, and we coperating with them on that post the US draw-down/withdrawal, to we investing in a regional power which shares its borders with pakistan, and so much more.

That said, Iran like KSA has its hands dirty where some inflammatory literature, anti-hindus, anti-sunnis has been found in parts of UP, which gets traced to them.

edited: we should also not forget the supportive role played by them on kashmir issue, when we needed their support desperately.
 

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By every passing day, US is less and less of action, more and more of rhetoric words. We'll deal with them and Iran the same way they deal with us and Pakistan parallely. No zero sum game here.
Time to show some balls, if not for reputation sake then at least to protect one's interests.

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It is actually the Europeans that are leading the call for sanctions
 

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More important issue is, what US-EU bring to India if it has to agree with sanctions on Iran? (though India has rejected it already)
 

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It seems Indian policy makers have a knack for supporting the wrong positions in cases like this. Old habits die hard huh..? :confused:
 

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Disagreeing with pro-US stand is wrong policy by default ?

Disagreeing with US? It seems that India's view on Iran is the most severe minority, even in the Middle East. BTW, your most important weapons supplier and technology partner Israel would seriously disagree with your government's position on the matter.

Talking about "default mode," it's clear to everyone that disagreeing with the US is India's policymakers policy by default.
 
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Disagreeing with US? It seems that India's view on Iran is the most severe minority, even in the Middle East. BTW, your most important weapons supplier and technology partner Israel would seriously disagree with your government's position on the matter.

I must say however that disagreeing with the US is the "default mode" of Indian policymakers...
Its not about being minority & aliening with majority, its about securing energy interests.

Can you tell what US-EU bringing to table so that India should stop trading with Iran ? Can they compensate Iranian supply to India somehow ?
 

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Its not about being minority & aliening with majority, its about securing energy interests.

Can you tell what US-EU bringing to table so that India should stop trading with Iran ? Can they compensate Iranian supply to India somehow ?

With the very public rebuke against the US and the monetary arrangement being organised by India for Iran, it certainly appears that India is not looking for oil sources alternative.
 

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With the very public rebuke against the US and the monetary arrangement being organised by India for Iran, it certainly appears that India is not looking for oil sources alternative.
Why wouldn't you answer this part ?

Can you tell what US-EU bringing to table so that India should stop trading with Iran ? Can they compensate Iranian supply to India somehow ?
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I am least bothered about how it appears to anyone or everyone.
 

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Disagreeing with US? It seems that India's view on Iran is the most severe minority, even in the Middle East. BTW, your most important weapons supplier and technology partner Israel would seriously disagree with your government's position on the matter.

I must say however that disagreeing with the US is the "default mode" of Indian policymakers...
It is not a default for our government. we have limited crude oil suppliers in the world, it is easy to sit and pass judgment in the west when they have so many other suppliers for crude oil. plus there is no enmity that Iranians show towards India, on the contrary they have been more helpful to our country than hurtful. You must also keep in mind that the US government acted in pure self interest historically when dealing with India, now we are doing the same. An embargo would just be appeasement for the west who is not willing to give anything in return. It seems that you are so much against Indian policy so why don't you give me a good reason why India should embargo Iranian Oil? In my opinion the in the past the US could bully us into an embargo but not anymore, they might still have enough power to convince us but they would have to give us something major like ceasing weapon sales to Pakistan. But that wont happen
 

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It seems Indian policy makers have a knack for supporting the wrong positions in cases like this. Old habits die hard huh..? :confused:
yeah I agree with you don't you remember that time when the Indians supported the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan who later turned into Al-Queda and Tablian.... oh wait that was the West!:devil::devil:
 

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Disagreeing with pro-US stand is wrong policy by default ?
How can one go against his master ?

Luckily India is not lowly country and has enough self respect to not become a lapdog.
 

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Loosing Iran means no Indian mission in Afghanistan post USA withdraw. And the best Judgement has to be made on whether USA will leave Afghanistan or not. To me, attack of Iran means Pakistan's gain in Afghanistan. Quite a tricky situation, let see how south block Chanakyes are going to steer us out from this maze.
 

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In a way Iran is an ally albeit and unfriendly one. Relying on only Arab oil will definitely be bad for India and closer allies like US,NATO,Japan will get more benefits while India will be left on the lurch. Not to mention South American oil exporters like Hugo Chavez will also ditch us if we ditch their ally Iran.
 

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Why wouldn't you answer this part ?


Japan reviews alternatives to Iran's oil - UPI.com

Japan is World's 3rd biggest oil consumer, India is No. 6, yet Japan is willing to look for alternative oil suppliers. The point is India's policymakers it seems are not interested in pressuring Iran.
Please answer straight or simply don't.

Japan aligning with US is no criteria for India to jump in the wagon. Nippon's talks with KSA are not compensating India.

India's energy needs has to be assured one way or another if it should consider pressurizing Iran for US interests. Its plain business, nothing more.

Can US-EU bring down international coal price benchmark ? That would be lucrative deal for said exchange.


Added Later: India is 4th largest consumer of oil, not 6th.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption
 

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