India air base grounded in Tajikistan

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I know something that is related to this - what you see in media is not true there is another wider talk in progress will let all know when the papers are signed , and one more thing people confuse , there are 2 air bases there which people confuse with one is ayani one is farkhor ( wrong spelling ) and both are close to each other and both had russian investment there
I had prior info only about IAF helping upgrading Farkhor Air Base and stationing some MiG-29s there. Even had planned to station some troops there. This news were way back almost 4-5 years ago.
 

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We should be thankful that Russians have a realm of influence in CIS nations. Above all, what do we know about back channel talks? We also have our investments in Tajikistan and more than beggar pakistan, its China which is wary of our influence there; lets end this topic here and let people concern do their jobs, the outcome of this issues is going to be positive and try to read between the lines, and be assured India is going to stay in Tajikistan!!
 

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There is a resolution passed in SCO that any military bases in the CIS nations must be under the jurisdiction of the SCO this resolution is passed in 2008

now does that expain all that wrong reporting and the RUSSIA IS BAD stories
 

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I had prior info only about IAF helping upgrading Farkhor Air Base and stationing some MiG-29s there. Even had planned to station some troops there. This news were way back almost 4-5 years ago.
if that report was true how do u explain the supply of indian logistics in the region surely not over pakistani air space ? then how is that possible ? just think about it
 
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http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110102/jsp/nation/story_13381152.jsp

Tajik cold water on base space
ARCHIS MOHAN

New Delhi, Jan. 1: Tajikistan has grounded India's ambition to have its first foreign air base.

India had helped Tajikistan renovate the Ayni air base, located 15km from capital Dushanbe, and New Delhi had hoped to station a squadron of its Mi17 helicopters and some MiG29 fighter aircraft there.

This would have given New Delhi a foothold in Central Asia. The use of the air base would also have offered India strategic depth in Afghanistan, particularly when the US starts withdrawing troops from the trouble-torn country around the middle of this year.

However, the Tajiks have relayed to New Delhi that they will allow only Russia to use the Ayni air base.

Government sources said Tajik foreign minister Hamrokhon Zarifi had recently said his government was in talks over the Ayni airfield only with Russia and no other country. For all practical purposes, the public statement suggested that India was out of the race for the air base.

The erstwhile Soviet Union had used the air base for operations in Afghanistan in the 1980s. But it had fallen into disuse after the collapse of the USSR. India started renovating the air base in 2002 after a defence agreement with Tajikistan.

The renovation, estimated to have cost $60 million, included construction of new hangars, repairing as well as extending the runway and building an air traffic control tower.

Delhi's defence ties with Tajikistan had improved as a result of Indian and Russian co-operation in the late 1990s to help the Northern Alliance fight the Taliban. Tajikistan, which shares borders with Afghanistan, played an important part as a transit route.

India had constructed a hospital for the Northern Alliance at Farkhor on the Tajik-Afghan border during this period.

After renovating the base, India had expressed its inclination to station its helicopters and fighter aircraft there. But Moscow, which continues to consider Central Asia as its sphere of influence, had reservations. As a compromise, the base was to be used by both India and Russia on a rotational basis.

This would have given India strategic depth in Central Asia as Tajikistan shares its borders with not just Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan but also China and Afghanistan. It nearly touches the Gilgit-Baltistan region under Pakistani occupation but which India considers part of occupied Kashmir.

According to the sources, the Tajik decision may have been taken under Russian pressure. But it has not come as a jolt to New Delhi. India had withdrawn its staff from the air base nearly a year back. The sources said the Tajik foreign minister's announcement has only made public what New Delhi had known for several months now.

The sources said New Delhi's current strategy in Central Asia was to increase its soft power by helping countries in the region on information technology, education and medicine.
 

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How about a base in south korea we both countries do lot of trade
 
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How about a base in south korea we both countries do lot of trade
US has troops in south Korea and trying for an official Japan -s.korean alliance why get involved there?? Instead of having foreign bases work on getting long range bombers or building them indigenously.
 

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Guys, to be frank, we should stop dreaming about foreign air or military bases and put our house in order, first ! Anyone of the P5 powers can afford a foreign military base, but we as a developing nation can't. We hardly have anything in our arsenal to match the Chinese military might, and hence we should concentrate on bringing our armed forces to a level where we can say, that India has substantial defensive capability against any Chinese offensive posture, or in the remote sense, a war. What will one squadron of Mig-29s based in Tajikistan or Mongolia do ? It will be nothing more than a symbolic show of strength, when actually, we hardly have any. Rather we should concentrate on naval bases in the Indian Ocean region, which is of prime importance to us, as it is our own backyard, and Central Asia is Russia's backyard, and should be left to them. We should continue to use our soft power, because at the end of the day, a tank or fighter jet is not gonna win the hearts and minds of people in a foreign land, but a school and hospital will, as has been clearly seen in Afghanistan !
 

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India places too much premium on its secular credentials,understandably we expect others to buy those credentials in toto and not bring other no political factors into their relations with India.however the world outside Raisina hills practices realpolitik which is rooted to their national attitude.Tajikistan is not the only Islamic country which in the recent years has subbed India,We had UAE and Turkey playing games with India over Afghanistan,Iran's supreme leader has called upon Islamic world to help liberate Kashmir........We should stop humiliating ourselves.
 

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Indian-Tajik air base negotiations expose India's limited regional influence

Indian-Tajik air base negotiations expose India's limited regional influence
http://centralasianewswire.com/Secu...quos-limited-influence/viewstory.aspx?id=2820

New Analysis by Martin Sieff

India's failed air base negotiations with Tajikistan demonstrate India's limited regional influence. Pictured: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan SinghWASHINGTON, DC - Monday, January 03, 2011 - Tajikistan's foreign minister has publicly confirmed that India will not be allowed to operate a combat air force squadron from the country's Ayni Air Base. This will end a nine-year dream for New Delhi of projecting its air power in Central Asia.

The news, reported by the Calcutta Telegraph newspaper on January 1, came as no surprise. The Tajiks had signaled their decision to the Indians months ago and Indian staff who had renovated Ayni left in early 2010. But the Indian government had hoped against hope that they could reverse the decision. Instead, Tajikistan has publicly underlined the firmness of its initial decision.

The affair is small but highly significant. The Indians had hoped that getting permission to use Ayni on a regular basis, as the Russian air force does, would give them a foothold of military influence in Central Asia.

They also wanted to use the base to provide air support to the government of President Hamid Karzai fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The affair, instead, proved to be a classic example of India's limited ability to boost its power in Central Asia relative to other regional and global powers.

One reason India failed in its efforts was that the Indians lack the financial clout that has allowed the United States to stay on the Manas Air Base in Kyrgyzstan, despite continued Russian efforts to have them evicted.

Another reason is that although Tajikistan's government is secular, it is facing a new wave of growing Islamic extremism across the country. Allowing predominantly Hindu India to operate out of Ayni, just six miles outside the capital Dushanbe in support of the Afghan government, would risk giving an emotional cause to the extremists.

It would have also displeased China, one of the two dominant powers in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), of which Tajikistan is a member state. Though the SCO's other major power, Russia, does not object to India joining the SCO -- which projects power across the heart of the Asian landmass – China has consistently blocked India's accession to the organization.

Ultimately, it was Russia that put its foot down leading the Tajiks to reject Indian access to Ayni. The Indians would have been aiding the U.S. armed forces in Afghanistan. And though Russia has been an Indian ally for decades, Russia wants more immediately the United States out of Afghanistan.

The Indian effort to gain access to the base was also a bad political move.

The Indian Foreign Ministry's obsession with getting a squadron of Russian-supplied Mi-17 helicopters and MiG-29 fighter-bombers based at Ayni reflected a focus on superficial appearances rather than real interests. Such a small force would not have had an appreciable impact on the rise of Taliban forces in Afghanistan. Instead, it would have played into their hands by further discrediting Karzai as the puppet of Indian as well as U.S. forces.

Also, Tajikistan is by far the poorest, weakest and least influential of Central Asia's five former Soviet republics. It has no access to Caspian Sea hydrocarbons, little strategic interest and a level of silver deposits not yet worth putting in the effort to exploit.

Having a small air force presence at Ayni would neither have raised revenue for India nor provided extra security for Tajikistan or Afghanistan. And it would not have contributed to India's own defense or national interests.

By trying too hard for too long to make that unnecessary dream come true, the Indian foreign ministry instead only demonstrated to the region, and a wider Asian audience, how limited its influence is in Central Asia compared to the other major power players on the Asian continent.
 

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It's sad but a realistic pointer to what India can and cannot do. Even having a military base in Tajikistan would entail India having to negotiate with Russia and Tajikistan for supplies just like NATO is doing with Russia right now. Next time an opportunity comes, India must wrest control of Gilgit-Baltistan and establish a physical link with Afghanistan's Wakhan Corridor, a link which exists only on official maps today. Unless that happens, we will have a hard time keeping our foothold in Afghanistan.
 

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Lets see things as they are Indian simply doesn't have a India centric foreign policy,to borrow an expression our foreign policy is like a headless chicken.
 

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