Govt looking at 100,000 MW solar power by 2022

[ezsasa]

The government is working at revising the solar power generation target to 100,000 MW for 2022 from the current 20,000 MW, Power and Renewable Energy Minister Piyush Goyal said Monday.

"We have reset the targets of renewable energy. The earlier target for solar energy was 20,000 MW till 2022, which we are trying to reset to 100,000 MW," he said at an event here organised by The Energy and Resources Institute (TERI) University

"On the solar front, we believe there is enormous potential to take it to 100,000 MW in the next 5-7 years," he added.

The minister said the government is working to make solar projects viable by providing grid parity, making it economically viable and ensuring that bankability and returns are reasonably assured.

"The three major challenges when I came into office were in the areas of grid parity, reducing project financing costs by seeing how interest rates can go down, and ensuring bankability", Goyal said.

"In short, we are trying to make it self-sustaining", he added, in order to help it realise the revised target of 100,000 MW from renewable sources.

 

[sgarg]

It is very good move to accelerate solar projects. Renewable sources like hydropower, solar and wind can generate 200 GW of electricity in India, similar to current thermal capacity. Solar and hydropower are better and safer solutions compared to nuclear power.

 

[sgarg]

The biggest advantage of solar power is that small plant are economically feasible. A plant with few megawatts capacity takes less resources to build and such plants are geographically spread thus giving boost to local economies. Solar plants can be built in the remotest regions.

 

[ezsasa]

Reason for posting this is because our current installed capacity is 250 odd GW and solar is at 2000 MW. Modi wants to add another 100 GW only on solar.
As per my last calculation 1MW of solar installation costs around 3.5 crores. so private entities are expected to put up 70 billion USD.
This would be the first time i am doubting modi's plan.

 

[NSG_Blackcats]

Reason for posting this is because our current installed capacity is 250 odd GW and solar is at 2000 MW. Modi wants to add another 100 GW only on solar.
As per my last calculation 1MW of solar installation costs around 3.5 crores. so private entities are expected to put up 70 billion USD.
This would be the first time i am doubting modi's plan.

As of today, the total solar power installed is 3000 MW.

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As per power minister, 25 solar parks and ultra-mega solar power projects will be setup in coming 4-5 years. That will add another 22,100 MW. The biggest of the park will be set up in Leh and Kargail which will be of 7500 MW.

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Apart from these there will be small and medium solar power projects by private companies. There is also a greater importance on rooftop solar projects.

So let's see.

 

[anupamsurey]

Reason for posting this is because our current installed capacity is 250 odd GW and solar is at 2000 MW. Modi wants to add another 100 GW only on solar.
As per my last calculation 1MW of solar installation costs around 3.5 crores. so private entities are expected to put up 70 billion USD.
This would be the first time i am doubting modi's plan.

not if they plan it to cover provisions for roof top solar panel.....it is the most logical thing to do without much investment from a single entity.

 

[Mad Indian]

It is very good move to accelerate solar projects. Renewable sources like hydropower, solar and wind can generate 200 GW of electricity in India, similar to current thermal capacity. Solar and hydropower are better and safer solutions compared to nuclear power.

The biggest advantage of solar power is that small plant are economically feasible. A plant with few megawatts capacity takes less resources to build and such plants are geographically spread thus giving boost to local economies. Solar plants can be built in the remotest regions.

Thats just absolute Bull Shit. Solar power is the most un-economical of all the available types of power generation. The western NGO dogs have successfully brainwashed a lot of people into believing this crap as it suits their master's agenda of keeping us down. Hydro power plant is very unreliable and Solar power generation is very costly(about thrice as much as nuclear power). And Solar power plants are actually way worse for the environment than thermal or nuclear plants

The only way to take India out of the current energy mess is by nuclear energy. We dont want to bankrupt the already poor middle class with this costly mess of solar power now do we?

 

[pmaitra]

And Solar power plants are actually way worse for the environment than thermal or nuclear plants

How so? Do solar panels explode and spread radioactive gasses all over the area? Do solar panels release humongous amounts of soot, tar, and carbon dioxide?

 

[Mad Indian]

How so? Do solar panels explode and spread radioactive gasses all over the area? Do solar panels release humongous amounts of soot, tar, and carbon dioxide?

Creation of solar panels and the water resources needed to run them actually causes worse pollution than that of the thermal power plants ,which is one the biggest reasons it is not used as much as the thermal power plants by even the advanced economies who have somehow become green niks. But I am basing this on what I read some four years ago and so the technology might have changed now to make it more efficient. But Solar power is not as green as it is touted to be.

Also, it is very unreliable being able to provide power only for 8 to 12 hours a day and lower power production during the winters and cloudy and rainy days. We would be better off with nuclear(very low cost) or thermal power

 

[pmaitra]

Creation of solar panels and the water resources needed to run them actually causes worse pollution than that of the thermal power plants ,which is one the biggest reasons it is not used as much as the thermal power plants by even the advanced economies who have somehow become green niks. But I am basing this on what I read some four years ago and so the technology might have changed now to make it more efficient. But Solar power is not as green as it is touted to be.

Also, it is very unreliable being able to provide power only for 8 to 12 hours a day and lower power production during the winters and cloudy and rainy days. We would be better off with nuclear(very low cost) or thermal power

I would like to know more about the process in the solar powers plants.

Agreed it is not cheap, and not very efficient.

 

[Mad Indian]

I would like to know more about the process in the solar powers plants.

Agreed it is not cheap, and not very efficient.

Yes its not

From the little I know, I think it is manufactured from the silica(sand) and the process involves burning lots of fuel to reduce silica to silicon and generates lots CO2. Thats why it is very inefficient and as much polluting compared to directly tapping off the fuels instead.

 

[Singh]

I read an article on Germany's Solar Power Generation projects and what a colossal burden this policy has turned out to be. I will try to hunt for it.

We should be burning coal !!!

 

[ezsasa]

I would like to know more about the process in the solar powers plants.

Agreed it is not cheap, and not very efficient.

There are basically tree types of solar power generation :
one is where you see the typical flat panels which contain the photo voltaic cells which convert solar to electric energy- comparatively cheaper than remaining methods.

other is one where there are a series of concave mirror like panels which concentrate and heat a fluid running in a tube at the centre, fluid heats up from all the panels and finally runs a turbine. second most costliest.

third is the most costly, you have a lot of mirrors typically in a circle directing sun rays to a central tower which gets heats up and turbine within generates electricity.
first method does not need water for functioning, second and third need water.

Solar plants require smart grids, solar power generation will not be consistent through out the day so the grid will have to automatically decide on real time basis to compensate between all power plants in a grid.

 

[Mad Indian]

I read an article on Germany's Solar Power Generation projects and what a colossal burden this policy has turned out to be. I will try to hunt for it.

We should be burning coal !!!

Seems that Germany's problem was with wind power generation which they subsidised using tax payer's money in the name of creating green economy. And here is the inevitable aftermath of such ridiculous socialist crap(subsidies):

German industry set to flee renewable power price punishment – STOP THESE THINGS

Germany's Unsustainable "Green" Jobs "Miracle" Collapses – STOP THESE THINGS

German Wind Power Policy: an Economic Suicide Pact – STOP THESE THINGS

German Wind Power does what the Dambusters couldn't do – STOP THESE THINGS

 

[Mad Indian]

So if someone thinks that India can afford the green economy with solar power plants which even Germany cant afford, then he truly belongs to the AAP anti national morons, working for their foreign masters

 

[NSG_Blackcats]

Thats just absolute Bull Shit. Solar power is the most un-economical of all the available types of power generation.

Can you please provide some source regarding cost of solar power per unit? A comparison of solar power cost per unit in 2008 Vs 2014 would be great.

The recently agreement signed by MP govt tells a different story.

Cost of production dropped 60%; price to equal thermal power's in three years

Madhya Pradesh accepted the bid of Himgiri Energy Ventures to supply solar power to the state grid at Rs 6.5 a unit, it was a figure to note even by the industry's standards of smashing records by the season.

More importantly, the MP tender brought the price of solar power closer to the price of thermal power — produced from coal or gas, and India's largest source. For 2012-13, Delhi's power utilities were projecting to buy conventional power at an average unit price of Rs 5.71.

And Solar power plants are actually way worse for the environment than thermal or nuclear plants

Can you please provide some source?

The only way to take India out of the current energy mess is by nuclear energy. We dont want to bankrupt the already poor middle class with this costly mess of solar power now do we?

How many years it take to build a 1000 MW nuclear power plant? For example, Kudankulam Nuclear plant was started in 2002 and is scheduled to start operation in Jan 2015. So it took 13 years for 1000 MW. We have achieved 3000 MW of solar power in just 3-4 years.

Which is more secure in terms of radiation. A solar one or a nuclear one?

 

[sgarg]

@Mad Indian, a new industry is always difficult to set up and initial costs are high. Once the initial knowledge base is built, the costs drop.

The important thing is to look at case studies on solar power plants in India. What are their problems and successes? You have to plan an industry from an Indian perspective.

I have seen solar dryers in use in villages successfully. (Dryers are used for removing moisture from grains).

People are ready to adopt technology which suits them. Hydrocarbons are quite expensive (until oil drops to $60).

 

[sgarg]

The nuclear power plants face stiff public resistance in India. There is no such problem in case of solar power.

India does not have fuel (uranium) for nuclear power plants. The fuel needs to be imported and the fuel supply can be stopped anytime.

The construction of solar power plants can be completed localized. The technology is not as complicated as in case of NPP.

Nuclear power plants come with inherent risks as Fukushima incident in Japan has shown.

The solar power is the easiest way to boost power production in India. Yes it will have to be combined with gas based plants to balance the load. But then India has both sunshine and gas.

 

[Singh]

Pro BJP

So if someone thinks that India can afford the green economy with solar power plants which even Germany cant afford, then he truly belongs to the AAP anti national morons, working for their foreign masters

Pro AAP guys says

We should be burning coal !!!

BJP says we must have 100,000 MW Solar Power

Who is anti-national moron working for their foreign masters ?

 

[ersakthivel]

Creation of solar panels and the water resources needed to run them actually causes worse pollution than that of the thermal power plants ,which is one the biggest reasons it is not used as much as the thermal power plants by even the advanced economies who have somehow become green niks. But I am basing this on what I read some four years ago and so the technology might have changed now to make it more efficient. But Solar power is not as green as it is touted to be.

Also, it is very unreliable being able to provide power only for 8 to 12 hours a day and lower power production during the winters and cloudy and rainy days. We would be better off with nuclear(very low cost) or thermal power

see the latest developments in solar cells reported by a company that goes by the name of Sun Edission

http://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/news/fluidised-bed-reactors-enable-low-cost-solar-cells-151014

A fluidised bed reactor produces high purity silicon granules by suspending small silicon particles in heated silane gas. The high velocity silane flows react with small silicon particles–fed continuously into the FBR chamber– to deposit more polysilicon onto its surfaces, causing the particles to grow. The resulting product is large granules of polysilicon ready for use in producing the mono- and multi-crystalline silicon wafers we are more accustomed to seeing.

In comparison, the Siemens process works by placing large pre-fabricated rods of silicon in a chamber with superheated silicon-rich gas. At high temperature, solid silicon deposits onto the polysilicon rods, causing them to expand. As part of the process, the chamber walls must be cooled to prevent silicon deposition onto that surface. This essentially creates a situation whereby a furnace is placed within a refrigerator, leading to significant inefficiencies and high energy use.