Agni V Missile

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any idea what is going to be the base for the Agni-v TEL?are we looking at russia for MAZ designs or trying to develop something on our own.
That's an interesting question,as all media reports claims Agni V as road mobile yet we do not have a vehicle in hand that can ferry it on her own, to the best we have a BEML trailer of 65 tons capacity which itself is 23 tonnes and runs with 32 tyres, now thats no solution for a military mobility compared to other land based missile carriers available around the world, hell even North Korea have her vehicle for her prospective ICBM.

Either making it domestically or buy it from a foreign firm, I would like something like this.....

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MZKT-79221 3D Art
















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......continuation.

Watch out the Mammoth Tyres the vehicle got, seems like it is comparable with Indian agricultural tractors, but if current local capacity for missile mobility is the 32 wheeled :dude: trailer and as we have seen the innovative wheeled version of BMP that India discovered :facepalm: I am afraid I would prefer a foreign import something like the MZKT-79221 :sad:
 
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i think A5 with canister would be like this as shown in NDTV



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so launcher truck would be based on existing agni series.

like this

[IMG]http://idp.justthe80.com/_/rsrc/1322469230380/missiles/strategic-missile-projects/agni-iii-irbm/agniiiirday2010.jpg?height=251&width=400

 

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i think A5 with canister would be like this as shown in NDTV



http://www.ndtv.com/news/Agniapproved295.jpg[/IMG

so launcher truck would be based on existing agni series.

like this

[IMG]http://idp.justthe80.com/_/rsrc/1322469230380/missiles/strategic-missile-projects/agni-iii-irbm/agniiiirday2010.jpg?height=251&width=400

Is it a dummy truck head infront of the trailer? Seems like the vehicle in front is doing the real effort.
 

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the dummy truck could be the command module....which would include lifting the missile to the desired angle and then fire it.
 

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Most likely transport option for Agni V


This explains why Indian Armed force prefers Tatra above local alternatives.
 

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If my calculations are correct the tyres in MZKT-79221 should be around 62 inch in oppose to 20 inch tyres of the Trailer, a common among Indian lorries. :shocked:

Comparing it with a close civilian model of VOLAT

MZKT-79081
http://www.mzkt.by/eng/catalog.php?id=79081


Though I may be wrong the tyre specification is 1600-600-685, if any one wants to try.



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Forget it it should be around 27 inches..........................LOL (nvm)
 
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Is it a dummy truck head infront of the trailer? Seems like the vehicle in front is doing the real effort.
that is armor protected chamber for the crew, plus it has its own engine to move it on to rail and it can be move to off road to some extent. hope it has NCB protection for the crew.
 

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DRDO: Intercontinental ballistic missiles well within reach

Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL) is the deceptively bland name that obscures from public view the Defence Research & Development Organisation's (DRDO's) most glamorous laboratory. At the DRDO missile complex here in Hyderabad, ASL develops the ballistic missiles that, in the ultimate nuclear nightmare, will carry Indian nuclear weapons to targets — thousands of kilometres away. Foreign collaboration is seeping into many areas of R&D, but ASL's technological domain — the realm of strategic ballistic missiles — is something that no country parts with, for love or for money. No foreigner would ever set foot in ASL.

But Business Standard has been allowed an exclusive visit. The erudite, soft-spoken director of ASL, Dr V G Sekharan, describes the technologies that were developed for the DRDO's new, 5,000-kilometre range Agni-5 missile, which was tested flawlessly in April. He reveals nothing except restraint stood between India and an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) that could strike a target anywhere on the globe.

ICBMs have ranges above 5,500 kilometres, a threshold that the Agni-5 already sits on. For India, a more strategically relevant range would be about 7,500 kilometres, which would cover the world except for the Americas.



"Going up from 5,000 kilometres to, let us say, 7,500 kilometres requires only incremental changes, which we have already assessed. We would need a more powerful booster, which we could make ourselves at ASL; and we would need to strengthen some of the systems, such as heat shielding, that are already flying on the Agni-V," says Sekharan.

For now, however, ASL is not developing an ICBM. Instead, its focus is on "operationalising" the Agni-V, which involves putting it into a canister and conducting three to four test-launches from the canister. When the Agni-V enters service with the Strategic Forces Command (SFC), which operates India's nuclear deterrent, it will be delivered in hermetically sealed canisters that safeguard the road-mobile missiles for over a decade, while they are transported and handled.

Launching a ballistic missile from a canister is a technological feat that ASL has perfected with smaller missiles, and will now modify for the bigger Agni-V. Since the missile's giant rocket motors cannot be fired while it is inside the canister, a gas-generation unit at the bottom of the canister, below the missile, generates a massive boost of gas that ejects the missile from the canister.

"The gas pushes the Agni-V out, like a bullet from the barrel of a gun. In less than half a second, the 50-tonne missile clears the canister by 15 metres, and that is when the rocket motor can safely ignite. In 30 seconds, the Agni-V breaks the sound barrier and, in 90 seconds, it has left the atmosphere," explains Sekharan.

The DRDO has promised the armed forces that the Agni-V will be test-fired from a canister in early 2013. ASL is on track to achieve that target, says Sekharan. Within a couple of months, a "pop-up test" will be conducted with a canister, in which the gas generator ejects a dummy missile. Meanwhile, the actual missile is being integrated with the canister.

The Agni-V project funding has already been cleared by the political council of the Union cabinet, a fast-track procedure for strategic projects that eliminates cumbersome MoD sanctions. This allows ASL to place orders for the materials and sub-systems that will go into the first few Agni-V missiles, taking care of production lead times. ASL scientists recount that "maraging steel" for the canister takes two years to be delivered by specialist defence PSU, Midhani. The rocket motor casings take another one year.

On the question that exercises strategic analysts the world over — is ASL developing "multi independently-targetable re-entry vehicles", or MIRVs — Sekharan remains ambiguous: "I can say we are working on MIRV technologies. The key challenge — the "post-boost vehicle", which carries the multiple warheads — is not a technology challenge, merely an engineering one. DRDO will acquire and demonstrate the capability for MIRVs by 2014-15. But the decision to deploy MIRVs would be a political one."

MIRVs are multiple warheads, up to ten, which would be fitted atop a single Agni-V. These would be a mix of nuclear bombs and dummy warheads to confuse enemy air defences. Each warhead can be programmed to hit a different target; or multiple warheads can be directed at a single target, but with different trajectories.

Interestingly, Sekharan reveals that the DRDO does not need sanction to begin work on such technologies. "The decision-making works like this: we demonstrate the technology and the capability. Then the government decides, keeping in mind the big picture."

"In the Agni-V, the government didn't say, 'we have a threat perception"¦ I need a long-range missile.' It was the DRDO that said that we now have the capability to enhance the Agni-III to 5,000 kilometres, and so the government sanctioned the project."

DRDO: Intercontinental ballistic missiles well within reach | idrw.org
 

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Beautiful soul rendering Agni 5 shlolka....

Enjoy.....
 
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Its almost as if DRDO is following Ashwathama vadham model. The number might be right but the units need not be km.
 

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Imagine a 50-tonne missile, encased in a 20-metre-long canister, being propelled into the air by a gas generator in a matter of 1.5 seconds. And imagine how much propulsion power the gas generator should pack within it, and how complex the entire operation must be when the missile is fired from a truck big and strong enough to absorb the shock of the blast-off.

That is exactly what the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), the Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) missile-making laboratory in Hyderabad, will achieve this year when the Agni-V missile will bolt out of a canister mounted on a Tatra truck from Wheeler Island, off the Odisha coast, traverse more than 5,000 kilometres across the sky, and then splash into the Indian Ocean.

The ASL, founded on September 28, 2001, is the "baby" in the DRDO's vast missile complex in Hyderabad. The other two DRDO laboratories here are the Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) and the Research Centre Imarat.

India's Agni series of missiles, all of which can carry nuclear warheads, are products of the ASL.

Heading the ASL is V.G. Sekaran, one of the architects of Agni-V, which had its successful maiden launch on April 19, 2012. The 17.5-metre-long, three-stage Agni-V, weighing 50 tonnes, lifted off from a rail-mobile launcher on Wheeler Island, made a 20-minute flight during which its three stages ignited and jettisoned on time, its warhead carrying explosives erupted into a fireball, and then it dived into the waters of the Indian Ocean between Australia and Madagascar. The missile was not encased in a canister.

But in the first half of 2013, perhaps in June, Agni-V will soar into the sky from a canister mounted on a launch platform integrated with a truck, which is called a road-mobile launcher. A gas generator placed at the bottom of the canister will erupt into life and push the missile out of the tube. After the missile comes out of the tube, its ignition will take place in the air. In firing such an intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM) from a canister, a complex technology comes into play. In missile parlance, a canisterised launch is called a "cold launch".

"We are vigorously working on the canisterised launch," ASL Director Sekaran said. It is a very involved job in terms of the number of sub-systems that will be employed. The canister will be the biggest made in the country. The ASL has done specialised work in the design and engineering of the canister and the gas generator. It involves aerospace mechanism, too.

Although India's supersonic cruise missiles BrahMos and hypersonic surface-to-surface missile Shourya are canisterised missiles and the DRDO had testfired them many times, this is the first time it will be firing a missile of the 50-tonne class from a tube. Besides, the missile is 17.5 metres long. While BrahMos weighs only three tonnes and is only nine metres long, Shourya weighs about six tonnes and is 10 m long . So the ASL will perform numerous qualification tests before Agni-V is put inside the canister. Insertion tests will be done. Instead of the real missile, an equivalent will be put inside the tube and a battery of tests done. The work towards this has been going on for the past six months. It will be done in two modes: proving the canister and the missile separately. Then the two will be put together and the final flight trials from the canister will be done. Finally, the DRDO will go in for the missile's deliverable version.


"We will ensure that all the systems work perfectly before we put the actual missile inside the tube," said the ASL Director. "We are on the job now. It is in a fairly advanced stage of demonstration. Then we will put the actual missile inside the canister and do a trial launch."

Although the principles for pushing Agni-V out from a canister are the same as for BrahMos and Shourya, which have been testfired from canisters many times, its engineering becomes very difficult, because of the canister's size and the missile's heavy nozzles, said Sekaran. Besides, there is no market for such canisters and not everybody can produce it.

All the Agni missiles, including Agni-III, IV and V, will be road-mobile. That is, they will be launched from trucks because a road-mobile system affords flexible deployment. It can be fired after parking the truck on a highway. It can also be camouflaged. From now on, all missile systems of India will be road-mobile because the DRDO found out in the last 10 years that rail-mobile systems were complex to operate.

The ASL's mandate was to develop carbon composites and large-sized rocket motors. It achieved a breakthrough in building rocket motor casings made of composites for Agni-IV which led to weight reduction of the rocket stages, ensuring a longer range for the missile. These carbon-composites are used to cover a part of India's light combat aircraft Tejas, and brake discs in fighter aircraft; they also go into the making of light-weight callipers for polio-affected children ( Frontline, October 7, 2005). Many of the technologies developed by the ASL for Agni-IV were fed into Agni-V.

The laboratory did seminal work when it developed a carbon-carbon composite for Agni missiles' heat-shields. Agni missiles' re-entry vehicles (REV) have their electronics and nuclear warhead inside. The REVs are protected by heat-shields. When an REV re-enters the earth's atmosphere, its carbon-composite tiles should withstand the heat generated, about 5,000° Celsius. Also, the temperature inside the REV should not be more than 50° C so as not to damage the electronic equipment, which is the vehicle's brain.

Besides Agni-V's canisterised launch, the ASL is currently working on using decoy systems in India's strategic missiles such as the Agni variants, which are all ballistic missiles. These decoys will be required to confuse the enemy's anti-ballistic missile system. "It is important not only to make the missile, but to make it able to survive," Sekaran said. "If you were to fire a strategic missile and the enemy has an anti-ballistic missile system to engage your missile, how do you overcome the hurdle and deliver your warhead?" he asked. So the ASL is working on the "theory of decoys", which means India's strategic missiles will be able to confuse the enemy's radar systems, penetrate its air defence system and deliver the warhead. "We are working on this vigorously as an extension of the overall systems' deployment to ensure that the missile survives in its journey," said Sekaran.

On the technology front, the ASL is working on more advanced, bigger and modified rocket casings, which would be light and thereby reduce the mass of the system. This will ensure a longer range for the missile—that is, it can travel longer distances. If the mass of the rocket motor stage is reduced, its weight comes down. ASL scientists are working on a new set of composite materials to achieve a big mass fraction in rocket casings.

In the ASL, there are small groups working on designing and engineering radomes which may not be required for the Agni class of missiles but for tactical missiles. A radome normally sits in a missile's front cone, which houses the warhead. The front cone has a terminal guidance system called the seeker. The seeker's job is to emit electromagnetic waves, map the target and control the missile. So the front cone should be able to transmit the electromagnetic waves. This front cone, which transmits radio frequency waves, is called a radome. Normal materials such as metals will not be able to transmit the electromagnetic waves. Special materials such as composites and ceramics are needed to enable the electromagnetic waves to go out. The ASL has already made big radomes for Tejas and these have been flight-tested successfully.

Since nanotechnology goes into advanced composite structures, an ASL team is working on nanotube technology to put carbon nanotubes (CNTs) in the composites to increase the latter's strength. The ASL has done some studies on mixing the CNTs with resin and making a composite which has a tougher structure and better properties compared to the composites where the CNTs are not inserted. "We have done studies and we got good results," said Sekaran.

On its website, the Department of Science and Technology (DST) says the Union government had in May 2007 approved the launch of a mission on nanoscience and technology, called Nano Mission, with an allocation of Rs.1,000 crores for five years. According to the website, the Nano Mission will strive for the development of products and processes in safe drinking water, materials development, sensors' development, precise drug delivery, and so on.

Miniaturised systems with several integration functions will become a key technology in future and the ASL is working in that area. For instance, a mobile phone of today has many integrated functions, including texting messages, receiving email, listening to music, and playing games. "Similar concepts can be applied to our missile systems," said Sekaran.

There are two levels of work involved in this: making miniaturised systems and integrating various functions in the system. "Today, you can have four systems in a single unit and they will do different jobs. In the long run, in the automobile and aerospace industries, you will find that systems integration has become the key word," he said. A single small unit in a missile system should have propulsion power, be able to receive telemetry signals and so on. So the volume, the mass and the complexity of wiring will come down. It will have more testability and reliability.

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All the Agni missiles, including Agni-III, IV and V, will be road-mobile. That is, they will be launched from trucks because a road-mobile system affords flexible deployment. It can be fired after parking the truck on a highway. It can also be camouflaged. From now on, all missile systems of India will be road-mobile because the DRDO found out in the last 10 years that rail-mobile systems were complex to operate.
Indian railway track has electric cable overhead



so it has additional problem for the SFC.

this design is good as it has its own engine to power the missile launcher





Missile is heavy but we need vehicle which can move its wheel on rail track easily









we should have a system where the missile can be quickly moved from its base on truck, put on the rail or strap behind the rail and then at the spot it will detach from rail, again go to highway or parking or designated launch site.

That way enemy will be guessing all the time.
 

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