Mil Mi-26T2 Halo vs Boeing CH47F Chinook

[Poseidon]

Boeing is confident that the CH-47F Chinook will win India's competition for 15 heavy lift helicopters.

Flight trials for the CH-47F and the Russian Mil Mi-26 have been completed and offset proposals have been submitted to India's ministry of defence, says Boeing. The comments were made by Boeing executives at India's Defexpo 2012 show in New Delhi.

They say the CH-47F has met all technical requirements and that the next step is likely to be the opening of commercial bids, which could occur in May.

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The request for proposal (RFP) suggests that the first aircraft will need to be delivered to the Indian army within three years of the contract signing. Following this, all 15 helicopters will need to be delivered within one year. The RFP placed great emphasis on the lifecycle costs involved in operating the two helicopters.

Boeing says it is currently producing five Chinooks per month at its Philadelphia factory.

The CH-47F and Mi-26 are radically different helicopters. The Chinook uses a tandem rotor layout compared with the Mi-26's conventional helicopter layout with a main and tail rotor.

The Mi-26 is much larger, with a maximum take off weight of 56,000kg (123,000lb) compared with the Chinook's maximum gross weight of 22,668kg.

The Chinook, however, can be transported in the hold of the C-17 Globemaster III, of which India has ordered 10 examples. Boeing says this greatly enhances the CH-47F's ability to be deployed to distant locations.

They note that the CH-47F used in the India flight trials flew into India aboard a C-17 and was able to conduct a flight just hours after arriving.

Boeing bulllish on Chinook winning Indian competition

 

[Vishwarupa]

Boeing bulllish on Chinook winning Indian competition.
By: Greg Waldron Singapore
The CH-47F and Mi-26 are radically different helicopters. The Chinook uses a tandem rotor layout compared with the Mi-26's conventional helicopter layout with a main and tail rotor.

The Mi-26 is much larger, with a maximum take off weight of 56,000kg (123,000lb) compared with the Chinook's maximum gross weight of 22,668kg.

Boeing bulllish on Chinook winning Indian competition

MI26 has double capacity then why should India go for chinook.

Also what is the advantage of having Tandem rotor layout.

 

[sob]

Mi26 has huge maintenance problems. Keeping them flying in itself is a massive job.

 

[noob101]

I don't understand this bid all that well according to me both of these helos are in different categories.... Mi 26 is alsmost double everything than that chinook, even range it can go more than a 1000 nm with external tanks....

I think they might go for a squadron of V22 osprey, in this case this might be the correct way to go ..... CH-47 can't carry a vehicle we need a bigger and better helo than the chinook.....

 

[p2prada]

Boeing said the same before MRCA shortlist. Nothing's over till MoD says it is over.

 

[arya]

 

[arya]

no matter mi26 or chinook , we need to induct any one to increase our numbers

 

[Sancho]

Featherweights Celebrate 26th Anniversary

126 Helicopter flight, christened 'Featherweights' was raised at Chandigarh on 15 May 1986.The unit was established to fly the Mi-26 helicopter, the largest and heaviest helicopter in the world, a very formidable machine capable of versatile roles. The flight lives by the motto 'Aaptsu Mitram' which means a friend who is always around to help when tragedy strikes. The 'Bhim' of the Indian Airforce has till date flown almost 8000 hours carrying 13559 tons of load.

The flight has the unique distinction of operating the world's heaviest helicopter in the highest and coldest battlefield in the world, the Siachen Glacier. The flight has undertaken flood relief operations in different parts of the country as well as relief operations during the Orissa Supercyclone of 1999. The flight played a major role in avoiding a Bhopal like gas tragedy at Paradeep Phosphates Ltd where the Ammonia gas tanks needed to be cooled at the earliest to prevent the gas from leaking out. The flight airlifted heavy duty generators which were used to cool the storage tanks thus avoiding a major disaster. The flight was also actively involved in the Kargil war wherein it performed numerous missions by day and night.

Another unique feature of the Mi-26 helicopter is its ability to carry very heavy (weighing upto 20 tons) and odd shaped loads slung under its belly. The flight has played a major role by airlifting various aircraft - fighters, helicopters and even a civilian passenger plane. Featherweights have played another big role in nation building by transporting heavy loads of the Konkan Railways Corporation Ltd which was entrusted with the task of laying the railway line between Jammu and Banihal. The flight also regularly undertakes air maintenance sorties to the highest Advanced Landing Ground (ALG) Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) at an elevation of 15,500 feet above mean sea level. The flight was instrumental in making the ALG at DBO fit for use by the fixed wing transport aircraft by airlifting heavy machinery like dozers and rollers to DBO.

The flight also played an important role in the revival and reopening of Vijaynagar ALG in the North Eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh. All sorts of heavy machinery and construction material were transported in the Mi-26 to make the ALG fit for landing. The flight has been closely associated with various projects of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). The Mi-26 has time and again been called upon to lead various helicopter formations on occasions like the Air Force Day parade, Republic day parade and Presidents fleet review.

The flight at present is commanded by Group Captain JVS Guron VM. As the flight completes 25 years of exceptional service, the air warriors of 126 HF look forward to continue the good work of nation building.

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[Blackwater]

Chinook is all time better than MI-26 in all aspect.

there is no need to be bullied

 

[Nirvana]

^^ Mi 26 can carry far more Cargo and Troops than Chinook !!

 

[Sancho]

Mi 26T2 and Mi 17

Cockpit:

 

[pmaitra]

Chinook is all time better than MI-26 in all aspect.

there is no need to be bullied

Not true. Mil-26 beats Chinook in many respects, but dual-rotor Chinook has its own advantages over Mil-26.

 

[KS]

^^ Mi 26 can carry far more Cargo and Troops than Chinook !!

Serveceability and sortie availability of Chinook is far better than Mi 26 and IMO that is the most important thing.

 

[Mad Indian]

Generally american weapons are much more reliable and advanced than their Russian counter parts. Just because Mi 26 carries more cargo does not necessarily qualify it as a better Chopper.

 

[pmaitra]

Serveceability and sortie availability of Chinook is far better than Mi 26 and IMO that is the most important thing.

We will still need Mil-26 for instances like these.

Generally american weapons are much more reliable and advanced than their Russian counter parts. Just because it carries more cargo does not necessarily qualify it as a better Chopper.

There, corrected that for you. Generally US made weapons are more advanced, and Soviet or Russian weapons are more reliable. This is true in most cases.

Green - correct.
Red - wrong.

 

[KS]

We will still need Mil-26 for instances like these.

Was waiting for this photo..lol..the evergreen favorite of the Mi 26 fans...but seriously that is just an one off and given a choice and a wallet I would anyday go for a Chinook.

There, corrected that for you. Generally US made weapons are more advanced, and Soviet or Russian weapons are more reliable. This is true in most cases.

Green - correct.
Red - wrong.

Dont base your opinions with AK alone...:lol

 

[pmaitra]

Was waiting for this photo..lol..the evergreen favorite of the Mi 26 fans...but seriously that is just an one off and given a choice and a wallet I would anyday go for a Chinook.

A picture is worth a hundred words.

Dont base your opinions with AK alone...:lol

I could compare the Space Shuttle with the Soyuz Capsule, and many other things, if you want me too. You don't want to get into this debate bud.

 

[Bhadra]

Another media campaign !
I sometimes wonder how much one gets for participating in these campaigns as a blogger ?
How and where to apply for such jobs ?
Any one ??

 

[asianobserve]

We will still need Mil-26 for instances like these.

A Chinook can also do that:

The Chinook was a heavy lifter. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
U.S. Army Chinook sling load operation | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

[pmaitra]

A Chinook can also do that:

The Chinook was a heavy lifter. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
U.S. Army Chinook sling load operation | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I admire your grit bud!

Here you go: