Wagner PMC mutiny against Russia

[Lonewarrior]

> Convicts led by a chef
> Turns against Russian army
> Marches till outskirts of Moscow with minimal resistance
> Manages to down 2x Mi-8MTPR-1, a Ka-52, a Mi-35, a Mi-8 and a Il-18 VZPU in less than half a day
> Forces Putin to sign a truce



How weak/corrupt/flawed/messed up Russian internal leadership/military/political structure is?
YES

 

[pankaj nema]

 

[Picard]

Something I found:

 

[temujin]

The balance sheet for Russia from the day long media circus. Heads will have to roll for Putin to retain any authority

 

[Lonewarrior]

If someone thinks that this whole drama was a ploy by Putin to make rebels reveal their position then I don't think this ploy is going to help Russia in the long run.

> Putin successfully quashes rebellion by either killing everyone or signing a truce. First thing he does is killing/imprisoning all of Prigozhin sympathizers...effective leadership and active manpower in Russian military gets messed up.
> Prigozhin successfully overthrows Putin and takes control of military. First thing he does is killing/imprisoning all of Putin sympathizers...effective leadership and active manpower in Russian military gets messed up.

If this really was what each parties hoping for then it's a non-zero-sum game where both parties lose

 

[Dharmapalas]

Just a little misunderstanding, all charges have been dropped, they can get back to business of murdering Ukrainians.

 

[Dharmapalas]

A summary of the past 24 hours in Russia.

 

[Anirbann Datta]

Just a little misunderstanding, all charges have been dropped, they can get back to business of murdering Ukrainians.

Even though, the windows will remain open of 13th floor for some 'one' or 'many 1 s' to measure the gravity!! Sooner or later!

Tik-Tok--Tik- Took......

 

[Lonewarrior]

The bulk of Wagner consist of convicts, Russia will simply offer to drop all their charges and they'll turn on Prigozhin himself.

Wut!?

 

[temujin]

All charges against Wagner forces including Prigozhin to be dropped. Prigozhin will be exiled to Belarus.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[Lonewarrior]

Any updates on Akhmats?
Or are they still stuck in traffic jam!?

 

[Johny_Baba]

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[Longewala]

Any updates on Akhmats?
Or are they still stuck in traffic jam!?

Akhmats are playing the role of Indian police in every Bollywood movie or "wing commander" Jackie Shroff in Border.

 

[asingha94]

So much drama for nothing

 

[Dharmapalas]

It looks like all that Prigozhin got for his adventure was to be sent to Belarus and maybe some changes in the leadership of the Russian Army.

 

[Lonewarrior]

So much drama for nothing

Are you sure!?

> Fault lines within Wagner got more widened; pro-Prigozhin, betrayed by Prigozhin, anti-Putin
> Wagnerites would become now extremely hostile towards Akhmats, coz they're the first to openly mobilize against Wagners
> The whole upper echelon of Russian MoD including Putin will now remain in a constant paranoia on whom to trust and whom not
> The effectiveness of Russian military leadership, especially the one on top who play key role in decision making will start diminishing as more and more conspirators get sacked
> Yesterday many Russian units including RuAF pilots refused to carry strikes on Wagner, faults will start to grow among Russian military
> In less than 12 hours RuAF lost 6 helicopter and 1 fixed wing aircraft; amongst which are two very rare Electronic Warfare helicopters and an even rarer communication node plane
> Wagnerites depended on RuAF for aerial elements, everything from helicopter to very crucial CAS were solely because of RuAF. Today RuAF lost 13 of its men to Wagnerites...it'll definitely come back to haunt them
> Other numerous PMCs and especially small factions got a taste of how easy it is to bend Kremlin to their will
> The whole world got to see how Kremlin reacted to all of these...how weak Russia's internal systems have become because so long of corruption got exposed

Did I miss something?

 

[Lonewarrior]

International bestseller...highly recommend

 

[Blademaster]

Rybar, who has some Wagner sympathies, is suggesting something along these lines. He reckons Prigozhin has secured some changes to the MoD leadership in return

I foresee that he would need to stay away from windows with balconies.

 

[Blademaster]

Just a little misunderstanding, all charges have been dropped, they can get back to business of murdering Ukrainians cleansing Ukraine of nazi scum again.

There. Fixed that for you.