Surgical strikes inside Pak. Possibility?

[Bornubus]

Toady another Mullah Zamil Ur Rehman threatened india again,that these kind of attack will Continue.

And I have been reading about an incident before 2003 cease fire between India and Pak,in which Indian Air Force crossed the loc and targeted Paki Positions,the incident was dubbed as Kargil 2.

Even before Kargil,our Air Force had the ability to bomb Paki strategic locations both Civilian and militrary in 1965 and 1971,including Sui Gas Power Plant worth 500 Crore in sindh,and misc targets like Rail yards,we had inferior Slow moving Aircrafts back then,prone to shot down by Paki Air defense and F 104 and sabres.

Now this the Rough comparison of IAF and PAF and Air Defense Assets.

India - 400 - 500 SU 30 MKI,Mirage 2000,Mig 21 Bison,Mig 29.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Indian_military_aircraft

Pak -150 -250 F 16,JF 17,Mig 21 and Mirage (70 % are 3rd Gen)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_Pakistan_Air_Force

Air defence Pak - Mostly Obsolete Soviet copies Made in China with few modern and Short range Missiles from France and Italy,which pose most danger to our Aircrafts - Spada 2000 and Crotale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Pakistan_Army


Based on SIPRI - Our Recently inducted Air to Ground Options,which is in active service of Indian Air force mostly from Israel and USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_LGB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_(bomb)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAB-500L

Add Military/SPY satellites,large number of BVR Misssiles (thousands in Number) and Superior AWACS support in our Favour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISAT-2
http://www.ibtimes.com/india-launches-risat-1-china-says-its-spy-satellite-693159

So My Questions -

1.Do we have enough Air crafts and A to G weapons to take out our target inside Pak - mostly in Punjab and Kashmir Province,they are in form of Madarsas and Training camp ?

2,Do we need heavy Supersonic Bombers like TU 22 which will Bomb our target and return back to India,before Paki scramble their Aircrafts ?

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[Bornubus]

Pakistan military spokesman Major-General Rashid Qureshi points towards a map during a news conference in Islamabad August 23, 2002. Pakistan on Friday accused India of sending troops and its air force to attack a Pakistani mountain outpost in the north of the disputed Kashmir region overnight, in what Islamabad called a "highly irresponsible and escalatory act."

© REUTERS/Mian Khursheed/Corbis

 

[Bornubus]

Commanding officer Brig. Iftikhar, points out a Pakistan army post on a map along the Line of Control which was attacked by Indian forces during a briefing in Chakoti in Pakistani Kashmir, Saturday, Aug 24, 2002. According to a Pakistani military spokesman India launched a massive attack at a Pakistani post in Kashmir last Thursday. Amid reports of fresh violence in Kashmir, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage said Saturday it was up to Pakistan and India to find a solution to the long-standing crisis over the disputed Kashmir.

© (AP Photo/Roshan Mughal)

Commanding officer Ayyaz Ahmed shows shrapnels Indian artillery fired across the border on Pakistani post in Gultari at the Line of Control between Pakistan and India, Thursday, Aug 29, 2002. Pakistan and India are constantly exchanging heavy artillery over the Kashmir dispute.

© (AP Photo/B.K.Bangash,pool)

Close-up of an Atlis-II Laser Designation Pod (LDP) mounted on a Mirage-2000H [KF105], displayed to the public at AeroIndia 2003 at Yelahanka AFS. Also visible are training rounds of Matra Super 530D AAM (left), Matra BGL LGB (centreline) and Belouga Cluster Bomb (Background)

© Jagan Pillarisetti (Bharat Rakshak)

 

[Bornubus]

Madrash of Terrorist Masoud Azhar in Bhawalpur,IAF targets should be similar to these.

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[Indx TechStyle]

1.Do we have enough Air crafts and A to G weapons to take out our target inside Pak - mostly in Punjab and Kashmir Province,they are in form of Madarsas and Military Training camp ?

Yes, we have but again problem arises. India's reputation!
India has reputation due to peaceful rise unlike China bullying on others.
But if India takes a strong action, world media will again make us a BADASS DUDE and aggressive great power.

2,Do we need heavy Supersonic Bombers like TU 22 which will Bomb our target and return back to India,before Paki scramble their Aircrafts ?

What the hell, you want to use machine gun against fist fighters?
This is not fair.
:biggrin2:

 

[Bangalorean]

Huh, when I saw the thread title I thought the GoI had actually made a plan to launch "possible airstrikes" on Pakistan and the news was "leaked" to the media. Fat chance.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Anyway, if talk seriously, attacking pakiland will change world politics. Obviously, pakis will be crushed and probably end from the earth but aftermath of world politics will become so complex and could change world completely probably even a world war that even on more than two groups (just like triple threat tag team wrestling match).
Replying in my upcoming messages

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Huh, when I saw the thread title I thought the GoI had actually made a plan to launch "possible airstrikes" on Pakistan and the news was "leaked" to the media. Fat chance.

Keep calm dude.

Writing for fulfilling requirement of 30 characters.

 

[Bornubus]

Yes, we have but again problem arises. India's reputation!
India has reputation due to peaceful rise unlike China bullying on others.
But if India takes a strong action, world media will again make us a BADASS DUDE and aggressive great power.

What the hell, you want to use machine gun against fist fighters?
This is not fair.
:biggrin2:

1.Dude this peaceful Ghandhiwadi,Panchsheel debate is getting Boring now.and PLZ no our reputation is not peaceful but a coward nation ..... what is our threshold i wonder ?

2.Well a couple of Heavy bomber is useful and bypass the threat of Ground fire and SAM to an extent.Imagine a Airstrike in Lahore by TU 22 ... under 5 Minute.

3.we also need Air launch stand off weapons of 2000 KM range IMO.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Let's imagine. India inavades pak.

What's international response?
Every country will condemn us. Start with China.
China could send help to pak in the form of weapons or other support systems.
China can get a chance to attack at Arunachal Pradesh. China can send army to attack at us through it's routes using Nepal.
China's naval baese in Sri Lanka will create trouble for us. Sri Lanka will itself turn against India. Bangladesh, friend of both India and China will remain neutral.

 

[Bornubus]

Anyway, if talk seriously, attacking pakiland will change world politics. Obviously, pakis will be crushed and probably end from the earth but aftermath of world politics will become so complex and could change world completely probably even a world war that even on more than two groups (just like triple threat tag team wrestling match).
Replying in my upcoming messages

No you are making wrong analogy here,nobody asking for a full scale war with pakis,a surgical strike is different Pakis won't nuke us for Air strike a Madarsha.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Iranian forces will support India to a little extent. As Iran will want to ensure a closure relationship with India plus they are also irritated by paki terrorists. But they will remain in limit because China is their closer ally than India.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

No you are making wrong analogy here,nobody asking for a full scale war with pakis,a surgical strike is different Pakis won't nuke us for Air strike a Madarsha.

Wait a minute dude, let me write about whole scenario.
I'm writing it in parts.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

West and Commies(Russia and China) having interests in pakistan and middle east nations (exclude India's friends) will oppose us, sanction us. Japan and Israel may support us. Afghans, Kazhaks and Mongolians etc. will give us rooms
But aftermath of war, only one result,
pak lost the war and probably disintegrated to the end.
But now will start the entire story.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

pak disintegrated, whatever be happen to successor countries (independent or merged with Afghanistan, Iran and India), India will reduce military weight on western border and will concentrate on east.
Everywhere, in Air, Sea and Land.
Result tensions between China and India.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

There's no blockade in India and Iran's relationship now. Trade will increase. Plus Iranian border will be near with China. Iran will remain ally of both China and India.
Saudis doing proxy war with Iran,
India supporting Iran, China trying to expand influence in middle east as it's defense exports have fallen after fall of pakistan.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

India has no major threat in western seas. Soz will concentrate force in Indian Ocean and will rapidly increase presence in South China sea making situation more critical.
Japan re arming itself, US already aggressive towards China,
Russia trying to show muscles
so South China sea and Pacific Ocean will be places to great razzmatazz.
Here, Vietnam has become more daring due to presence of friendly navies in the sea. It will violate China's sovereignty 10 times more than it usually does.
South Korea in trouble. They won't warm up relations with China, will obviously never do with Japan and India will never break up with Japan.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Here, North Korea will be enjoying more Chinese help after collapse of pakistan but they are now surrounded very large fleet of war monger navies.
India, Japan, South Korea and others are supporting Taiwan, with more aggression, trouble for Beijing.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Here in subcontinent, multiple terror groups have arisen against India and Iran for revival of pakistan creating trouble.
But as India has now free trade routes, China , India and Iran are growing very fast. Such that gap between them and small neighbors (like Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Sri Lanka) may be like to that of USA and Mexico.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Massive military buildup in the east is now balancing down NATO. Russia has got opportunity to attack any country to again start a proxy war against west.
USA is confused, whom they support and whom not.