Sri Lanka Watch, News and Discussions

[THESIS THORON]

till now ig india has given around 4 billion dollars of help thru line of credits, currency swap and some other ways

 

[HeinzGud]

LTTE is a controversial topic both for Tamils and Sri Lankans, so no comments about that. But Prabhakaran and LTTE were terrorists and the government committing genocide of Tamil Hindus was no different. Anyways is there any hope for it to end? And please enlighten us about the organic farming stuff going on sri lanka which is said to have caused all this food shortage.

Most of the Sinhalese were bigots. But I don't think the new generations are like that. The war has taught us a good lesson. Tamils are closer to the Sinhalese never before.

"Organic" farming fiasco is a brain child of our President. Before that there was debate among us that fertilizer chemicals cause the chronic kidney disease maligning certain farming regions. There were some medical professors who claimed the god "Natha" told them that the kidney disease was caused by fertilizers and so on. Being the populist President. He jumped into the band wagon and banned fertilizers with out thinking straight.

Also, there was an idea that Sri Lankans could produce enough food with "Local" "Traditional" farming methods. The populist government had sold themselves to street hawkers and snake oil peddlers.

 

[HeinzGud]

Many people dont know sinhalese are ancient people from coastal areas of Odisha and west bengal .

It's a mix. Bengali, Tamil and European.

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

In future not far off. Sri Lanka might become part of India. I think it is inevitable given the political gravity of India. The tidal forces are too much to resist.

I'm not so keen on political unions.

Dharma based societies need to have separate political systems and evolve separately and learn from each other.

My point is that we should make borders between countries on the subcontinent irrelevant to such an extent where political union won't change anything.
Not possible with Pakistan for us but possible for rest of the counties.

Besides, any such political union will scare off other countries like Bangladesh and Nepal with whom india should develop economic and cultural ties.


People here are discussing as if sri lanka will just roll over and bury it's national identity.
I've said this before, for us sri lanka or nepal etc joining the union won't change much.
It will be like another state with its people having freedom regarding their religious, cultural and ethnic identity and managing it their own way

For sri Lankans that's not the case they have a different sense of nationhood inspired from different sources.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Many people dont know sinhalese are ancient people from coastal areas of Odisha and west bengal .

Śrī Laṅkā Prajātāntrika Samājavādī Janarajaya (Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka)

Official name of Sri Lanka, does it sound similar?

 

[FalconSlayers]

I'm not so keen on political unions.

Dharma based societies need to have separate political systems and evolve separately and learn from each other.

My point is that we should make borders between countries on the subcontinent irrelevant to such an extent where political union won't change anything.
Not possible with Pakistan for us but possible for rest of the counties.

Besides, any such political union will scare off other countries like Bangladesh and Nepal with whom india should develop economic and cultural ties.


People here are discussing as if sri lanka will just roll over and bury it's national identity.
I've said this before, for us sri lanka or nepal etc joining the union won't change much.
It will be like another state with its people having freedom regarding their religious, cultural and ethnic identity and managing it their own way

For sri Lankans that's not the case they have a different sense of nationhood inspired from different sources.

Sri Lanka is not a part of India, even as per Vishnu Puran if I’m not wrong. Rest @asaffronladoftherisingsun can educate us. Also @HeinzGud how are the peacefuls there in Sri Lanka, more peaceful or less peaceful than our local Indian variants?

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

Sri Lanka is not a part of India, even as per Vishnu Puran if I’m not wrong.

You are right.

Sri Lankan landmarks are not mentioned in Vishnu Purana when discussing extent of bharat.

 

[HeinzGud]

I'm not so keen on political unions.

Dharma based societies need to have separate political systems and evolve separately and learn from each other.

My point is that we should make borders between countries on the subcontinent irrelevant to such an extent where political union won't change anything.
Not possible with Pakistan for us but possible for rest of the counties.

Besides, any such political union will scare off other countries like Bangladesh and Nepal with whom india should develop economic and cultural ties.


People here are discussing as if sri lanka will just roll over and bury it's national identity.
I've said this before, for us sri lanka or nepal etc joining the union won't change much.
It will be like another state with its people having freedom regarding their religious, cultural and ethnic identity and managing it their own way

For sri Lankans that's not the case they have a different sense of nationhood inspired from different sources.

There is a talk of building a land bridge over Ram Sethu. The idea was being on the pipe line few years back but most Sri Lankans objected to this. Given the current situation I think this might come to fruition.

Sri Lanka never had a unique national identity. We have always burrowed from India until the time of the Europeans. We are much westernized than Indians. I think that is the difference.

 

[HeinzGud]

Sri Lanka is not a part of India, even as per Vishnu Puran if I’m not wrong. Rest @asaffronladoftherisingsun can educate us. Also @HeinzGud how are the peacefuls there in Sri Lanka, more peaceful or less peaceful than our local Indian variants?

I can't say for sure. But it was much more peaceful until last night. Things will cool down hopefully.

Monsoon is coming so tempers will cool down with the rain.

 

[The Saffron Knight]

Any such scenario where sri lanka becomes Chinese colony/ally will turn itself into a play thing between india china and US.

Remember that Diego Garcia is less than 2000 km from sri lanka.

Sri lanka's interests are served by playing india usa and china off each other.

Our and US interests are served by making sure sri lanka stays neutral.

Because we don't need sri lanka to project power into IOR as we have our peninsula, island territories, bases on less populated and farther off island nations in IOR
US is also in a similar position.

China on the other hand absolutely needs sri lanka to give up some sovereignty and bases etc.

We can and should use this and not let ourselves be guided by hubris.

Political Integration of Sri lanka doesn't offer much.
No gain in resources that we cant trade either.
We'll just import a new headache with secessionist tendencies.

Our focus should be economic and cultural integration.
We are much better situated than china in this regard.

And with time ie decades sri lanka and indian relationship will evolve where going against each other's interests will be costly for both and opposed by domestic population.

That should be the goal.

India's military existance in Sri Lanka is a necessity. We have to get military access to their ports & their special economic zones.

Only that way we can keep a check on the Chinese vessels & nuclear submarines docked in Sri Lankan ports.

We cannot let Sri Lanka be what Cuba was for America. Out of compulsion or by choice that's a different issues.

 

[tommy]

I can't say for sure. But it was much more peaceful until last night. Things will cool down hopefully.

Monsoon is coming so tempers will cool down with the rain.

He was asking about Sri Lankan muslims.

 

[THESIS THORON]

There is a talk of building a land bridge over Ram Sethu. The idea was being on the pipe line few years back but most Sri Lankans objected to this. Given the current situation I think this might come to fruition.

Sri Lanka never had a unique national identity. We have always burrowed from India until the time of the Europeans. We are much westernized than Indians. I think that is the difference.

better to make like this, I was doing this few days ago

 

[HeinzGud]

better to make like this, I was doing this few days ago

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It will be between Mannar and Rameswaran. The old trade route.

 

[HeinzGud]

Sri Lanka is not a part of India, even as per Vishnu Puran if I’m not wrong. Rest @asaffronladoftherisingsun can educate us. Also @HeinzGud how are the peacefuls there in Sri Lanka, more peaceful or less peaceful than our local Indian variants?

Oh right. More peaceful. Never had a trouble with them until the easter sunday.

 

[fire starter]

There is a talk of building a land bridge over Ram Sethu. The idea was being on the pipe line few years back but most Sri Lankans objected to this. Given the current situation I think this might come to fruition.

Sri Lanka never had a unique national identity. We have always burrowed from India until the time of the Europeans. We are much westernized than Indians. I think that is the difference.

Didn't you guys adopted Chinese economic model no surprise it failed, right now you are in China's strategic diplomatic trap which is an extension of debt trap. Only solution is to kick china out and embrace quad if u want stable future ahead.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Didn't you guys adopted Chinese economic model no surprise it failed, right now you are in China's strategic diplomatic trap which is an extension of debt trap. Only solution is to kick china out and embrace quad if u want stable future ahead.

aaj ke brown sepoy ke statement ko dekh ke mera dimag quad se hat gaya hai

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

Indians military existance in Sri Lanka is a necessity. We have to get military access to their ports & their special economic zones.

Only that way we can keep a check on the Chinese vessels & nuclear submarines docked in Sri Lankan ports.

We cannot let Sri Lanka be what Cuba was for America. Out of compulsion or by choice that's a different issues.

I agree keeping china out is important and we can't allow a cuba like situation.

But we don't need our direct presence there.
Maybe a listening post or sensors at most.

Deploying offensive hardware and men is not necessary.
Do you want to give fodder to anti india politics there?

 

[HeinzGud]

Didn't you guys adopted Chinese economic model no surprise it failed, right now you are in China's strategic diplomatic trap which is an extension of debt trap. Only solution is to kick china out and embrace quad if u want stable future ahead.

No. This is the model we followed since 1948. This is was atlee's economic model.

Chinese never had a good presence in Sri Lanka as you guys had claimed. They lent us money and we did stuff with it. That's it. Right now. The solution is to cut government spending. Dismantle the welfare state and embrace free market economy.

 

[THESIS THORON]

I agree keeping china out is important and we can't allow a cuba like situation.

But we don't need our direct presence there.
Maybe a listening post or sensors at most.

Deploying offensive hardware and men is not necessary.
Do you want to give fodder to anti india politics there?

lanka will be getting vast network of surveillance equipments

 

[Covfefe]

I agree keeping china out is important and we can't allow a cuba like situation.

But we don't need our direct presence there.
Maybe a listening post or sensors at most.

Deploying offensive hardware and men is not necessary.
Do you want to give fodder to anti india politics there?

Rather than defending China's presence in Sri Lanka endlessly, India needs to be aggressively pushing inside South East Asian nations. Pretty sure Vietnam will be more than happy to have some Brahmos batteries, coastal radars, MRSAMs etc. Containment strategies only work upto a certain point. Better to fight the enemy in his territory. China can for sure make Sri Lanka an observation post for spying but it's offensive utility isn't much. They can't put an Indian Navy equal at its Lankan outpost.