Russia Ukraine War 2022

[WARREN SS]

He was was big Shot for PR

 

[vampyrbladez]

 

[sachincba]

I see Ukrainians and west puppeteers taking pleasure in the fact that Russians are killed. They are fighting. Anyone who decides to fight must be ready for sacrifice.
But they forget that it is not the number of casualties that decide the outcome of war.
At the end of the day, are you able to control land? Are you able to control the movement of enemy?

In war, the victory belongs to those who control land and movement of enemy.

 

[asianobserve]

See you will engage in historical discussio while it gives the impression of depth in conversation, it adds nothing to current events.

Fact remain stepped in 24th Feb based on

1. Denazify the govt (no idea what it means)
2. Destroy military capacity of Ukraine (WIP)
3. Neutral state(Ukraine ready to discuss)

So Russia heavily sanctioned, its objective not yet completed and Ukraine ransacked. So as on 31March we are there.

Most probably Ukraine is going for partition, at least it looks like it.

I think Crimea and these so called Luhansk and Donetsk republics are good as gone to Ukraine even before Russia invaded.

Let's see about what happens with the rest of Ukraine.

 

[karn]

India should issue warning to USA and Europe against buying Russian oil , Gas , fertilizer , Uranium , diamond and at the same time import more from Russia for its needs ... That way we can match with the current trend in west . Its all about how u present yourself . Western public should get the feelings that we are on their side and not doing some grand conspiring with China like some internet folks are claiming .

Our minister said in parliament that there is no rupee rouble trade .. all happening in sneak.

 

[Flash12]

So where did the legal right to sovereignty of countries go if they have no freedom to determine their foreign policy?

Ask USA about it when they didnt like USSR missiles in Cuba.

 

[Cheran]

Relevant here.

 

[JBH22]

Relevant here.

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Before 2020 India was unsure about China intent.
After Galwan, we are now privy to their intent and had time to rebuild supply chains. If now we did not use the time to refurbish our equipment, build up ammo and fuel depot, who is to be blamed?

We are still going about with Mars pluto trial for indigenous system. Govt is quite confident it seems. With regards to brown sepoy tell him to F off, his ancestors took the decision to do goras saab bidding we stayed here and choose to not do it.

 

[asianobserve]

Ukrainians culture? The Ukrainian language is mostly because of Polish rule. As an example many Polish words found their way into the Russian language, hence you get “Ukrainian” which is mostly spoken in western Ukraine, which shares a border with Poland. Most Ukrainian citizens do not speak Ukrainian regularly. If they know it they generally speak little in Ukrainian and they are not that fluent unless they live in places like Lviv. Even i know people from Ukraine, that are pro Ukrainian and even they all speak Russian.

People have a hard time understanding or excepting this especially foreigners. Most seem shocked by this basic knowledge.

Russian is the most common first language in the Donbas and Crimea regions of Ukraine and the city of Kharkiv, and the predominant language in large cities in the eastern and southern portions of the country.

Russian language in Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

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These Russian speakers in Ukraine reject Putin's war

These Russian speakers in Ukraine reject Putin's war

Missile attacks have pummeled Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city, which is only 25 miles from the Russian border in the country’s northeast.

www.google.com

How locals in Kharkiv are switching to Ukrainian language amid the terror of Russian bombing

Locals 'switch to speaking Ukrainian' amid terror of Russian bombing

"Those people who never wanted to this week began to switch to the Ukrainian language just to distinguish themselves from the occupants."

www.google.com

In Kharkiv’s Rubble, Hatred for Russia Is Strong

In Kharkiv’s Rubble, Hatred for Russia Is Strong

Once great admirers and friends, residents have now nothing but contempt and worse for the invaders

newlinesmag.com

 

[asianobserve]

How do you propose to check nationality?

Putin’s paradox: ‘Ukrainian’ separatists are Russian citizens

A scan of the leadership in the occupied territories explains Zelenskiy’s reluctance.

Many of them are now citizens of the Russian Federation

The senior officials who now have Russian nationality include the top separatist representatives who have participated in discussions of the Trilateral Contact Group, which is responsible for negotiating the detailed implementation of the Minsk accords: Natalia Nikonorova, the foreign minister in Donetsk; and her Luhansk counterpart, Vladislav Deinego.

Putin’s paradox: ‘Ukrainian’ separatists are Russian citizens

Putin insists Kyiv must negotiate with local officials but Ukraine says the Kremlin calls the shots.

www.google.com

 

[Varzone]

Before 2020 India was unsure about China intent.
After Galwan, we are now privy to their intent and had time to rebuild supply chains. If now we did not use the time to refurbish our equipment, build up ammo and fuel depot, who is to be blamed?

We are still going about with Mars pluto trial for indigenous system. Govt is quite confident it seems. With regards to brown sepoy tell him to F off, his ancestors took the decision to do goras saab bidding we stayed here and choose to not do it.

It's no secret that US-India intelligence sharing has ramped up greatly over the years. They were providing their own analysis and real-time intelligence for Galwan standoff. Post that we saw India sign agreements for QUAD and India-Israel-UAE-USA partnership due to Indian leadership gaining trust on US.
They know things we don't. Russia is of not much importance to India apart from strategic weapons technology transfer that is in process. India is leaning increasingly towards the west whether you like it or not.

 

[Neptune]

So where did the legal right to sovereignty of countries go if they have no freedom to determine their foreign policy?

Good question, the word sovereignty is thrown around a lot especially in the west but if sovereignty meant anything why Americans refuse to leave Guantanamo Bay Cuba? Why did Americans threaten nuclear war with Cuba and the Soviet Union when Cuba allowed the Soviet Union to station nuclear weapons? Ironically the west has been surrounding Russia with nuclear weapons and building up troops.

The west also did not allows Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and dozens of other countries determine its foreign policies because the west either invaded those countries, bombed them into submission or both. In many other countries, the west installed puppet governments, such as the case in Ukraine and the US sponsored Maiden “uprising” AKA US politicians landing in Ukraine supporting rioters and then installing puppets.

Ouch, so much for “democracy” again the US set the wheels in motion for this war years ago by overthrowing the Ukrainian government and installing puppets.

 

[asianobserve]

Ask USA about it when they didnt like USSR missiles in Cuba.

US threatened to invade Cuba when they discovered Russian nuckear missiles stationed there. The statiining of Russian nuclear missiles in Cuba would have defeated the whole security achitecture of the Cold War - known as MAD - since US has very little reaction time if a nuclear missile is lunched from Cuba.

After these missiles were removed Cuba continued on its partnership with the USSR. In fact, the USSR put up Lourdes SIGINT station, which Russia continued to operate until 2002.

 

[Neptune]

Putin’s paradox: ‘Ukrainian’ separatists are Russian citizens

Putin’s paradox: ‘Ukrainian’ separatists are Russian citizens

Putin insists Kyiv must negotiate with local officials but Ukraine says the Kremlin calls the shots.

www.google.com

95% of separatist leaders are from Ukraine, a simple weki search will show where they were born, and again, stop lying and talking about things you know nothing about. Many of the fighter in the LNR and DPR have Ukrainian dialects and surnames.

 

[Flash12]

Putin’s paradox: ‘Ukrainian’ separatists are Russian citizens

And dont you confuse nationality and citizenship?
Do not forget, Russia began to give its citizenship to the residents of Donbass only in 2019.

 

[JBH22]

the planning of the free world. Imagine what they must be planning for India. Our brown ass will be toasted

 

[asianobserve]

Good question, the word sovereignty is thrown around a lot especially in the west but if sovereignty meant anything why Americans refuse to leave Guantanamo Bay Cuba? Why did Americans threaten nuclear war with Cuba and the Soviet Union when Cuba allowed the Soviet Union to station nuclear weapons? Ironically the west has been surrounding Russia with nuclear weapons and building up troops.

The west also did not allows Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and dozens of other countries determine its foreign policies because the west either invaded those countries, bombed them into submission or both. In many other countries, the west installed puppet governments, such as the case in Ukraine and the US sponsored Maiden “uprising” AKA US politicians landing in Ukraine supporting rioters and then installing puppets.

Ouch, so much for “democracy” again the US set the wheels in motion for this war years ago by overthrowing the Ukrainian government and installing puppets.

Too many countries being tossed around. I can discuss all their relative merits (or lack of it) but it's not worth it because even if it were true 100% what you accuse the US of doing, still Russia invading Ukraine still cannot be justified by pointing out these so called American sins.

"But he did it too so it must be right?"

 

[JBH22]

It's no secret that US-India intelligence sharing has ramped up greatly over the years. They were providing their own analysis and real-time intelligence for Galwan standoff. Post that we saw India sign agreements for QUAD and India-Israel-UAE-USA partnership due to Indian leadership gaining trust on US.

Spoken like a true kid.
Even after this episode you dont realise that we have to be self sufficient. What is use of all satellites, investment in intelligence if we have to rely on them. We can get a tip, but trusting or relying on third party is suicidal

They know things we don't. Russia is of not much importance to India apart from strategic weapons technology transfer that is in process. India is leaning increasingly towards the west whether you like it or not.

Yes let us become an outcast on Eurasia to please someone in Washington. Spoken like a true brown sepoy.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

"militant hindu" activities (Russia used Ukrainian desire to enter EU and NATO), would you want the Indian government to simply let thst province break away without a fight?

You're too onion skinned without understanding the context of the post.

Such erroneous half arsed trashposting by the cuck of century.

From magnificent RIGVEDA to PURANAS or SATHPATH BRAHMANA you "Show us one Hindu Text that supports destruction of non-Hindu Sites or called for murder of dis believers?

Find me one Hindu who quotes Hindu Scripture to justify his alleged act of terror?

Hindutva has more than one decimal two adherents worldwide and only one country since last 10000 years plus of written documented continued unbroken civilisational continuity. Is the biggest proof we did not invaded anybody.

Your own filipino has been into the territory of Tamils of Bharat name one filipino that was ever killed? There is none.

Historically we have never massacred nor believed in cuckversion. The great temples of Cambodia and Indonesia are testament to the benign influence of Hindutva.

Hindu terror is so terrorising that united nations is too pussy to name a single terrorist in the list only because Hindu terror is only a larp and does not exist.

 

[Flash12]

US threatened to invade Cuba when they discovered Russian nuckear missiles stationed there. The statiining of Russian nuclear missiles in Cuba would have defeated the whole security achitecture of the Cold War - known as MAD - since US has very little reaction time if a nuclear missile is lunched from Cuba.

After these missiles were removed Cuba continued on its partnership with the USSR. In fact, the USSR put up Lourdes SIGINT station, which Russia continued to operate until 2002.

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"Cuba continued on its partnership with the USSR."

Yeah, with US sanctions. And with constant attempts to assassinate Castro and coup d'etat.
And again we return to the issue of sovereignty: what business was the United States with whom Cuba cooperates?