Russia Ukraine War 2022

[Akim]

Yes the infographics department has peaked out it appears, also they need someone to address the basic math, in the second one they say aircraft 121 + 4, in the first one that number is now 127+4. With this kind of math it's easy to get to 17K killed.

What does this infographic have in common with Biden's legacy?.....generational inflation.

Yellow - the number of destroyed per day.

 

[WARREN SS]

 

[Blademaster]

That's it. The question is time. And now nothing connects Kyiv and Moscow.

If you say so. The people in the Donbass and Luhansk regions and other Russian speaking Ukrainians in sizable numbers in other areas of Ukraine say differently. That is why you have this conflict.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Will Arjun survive this?

Key feature added in Arjun MBT is a Containerised Ammunition Bin with Individual Shutter (CABIS) that gives crew enhanced protection from inadvertent burning of ammunition stored in the ready round bin.
The hot gases generated due to ammunition burning is vented out by blow-off panels from the roof of the turret, thus saving the crew.

Does India have any other options?

Arjun MBT is much better option than Russian junk death-trap.

The most realistic takeaway is that we have to develop tactics to minimize the effectiveness of ATGMs.

Not possible. ATGMS have developed and matured way to much that you can't avoid them.
APS (both hard-kill and soft-kill) helps but is not 100% effective

 

[Dark Sorrow]

no tank is 100% immune

we can outfit the tanks with APS , its a radar that detects a atgm / rpg then fires an explosive at it.

been hearing of 'plans' for years . we can fit not all the tanks but atleast 500 - 1000

pretty much what israel has done. i think it was effective against hamas in last conflict.

We can outfit all our tanks with APS but the problem is that APS are not 100% effective and the scinerio we plan to deploy our tanks APS effectiveness will further be reduced.

 

[Blademaster]

Key feature added in Arjun MBT is a Containerised Ammunition Bin with Individual Shutter (CABIS) that gives crew enhanced protection from inadvertent burning of ammunition stored in the ready round bin.
The hot gases generated due to ammunition burning is vented out by blow-off panels from the roof of the turret, thus saving the crew.

Arjun MBT is much better option than Russian junk death-trap.

Not possible. ATGMS have developed and matured way to much that you can't avoid them.
APS (both hard-kill and soft-kill) helps but is not 100% effective

I have been a huge fan of Arjun since day one and have been fervently hoping that IA will induct Arjuns by the thousands. Perhaps after this we will see IA change its mind.

As for tactics and ATGMs, I disagree. I notice that you still have to stick your head out in the open to acquire the targets and that makes you very visible to overhead UAVs with imaging equipment. So I suspect that from now on, armor units will send their UAVs ahead to screen the enemy forces out and have spotters at the standby to take those ATGMS teams out. No armor unit operates in itself. You always have to have infantry support to be successful.

 

[Tactical Frog]

Ukraine's 10-point plan Journalist Farida Rustamova obtained the full list of Kyiv's proposals to Moscow on March 29

Source: Meduza
Journalist Farida Rustamova obtained a list of the written proposals Ukrainian negotiators delivered to their Russian counterparts in Istanbul on March 29, 2022. Russia and Ukraine have not agreed to these measures, but Moscow says it will study and discuss the ideas. Russia’s lead negotiator, Kremlin adviser Vladimir Medinsky, summarized some of these proposals to journalists on Tuesday, while Rustamova got access to the text of the communiqué. Meduza translated Ukraine's proposals below. Kyiv's fundamental offer to Russia is “permanent neutrality.”
Proposal 1: Ukraine proclaims itself a neutral state, promising to remain nonaligned with any blocs and refrain from developing nuclear weapons — in exchange for international legal guarantees. Possible guarantor statesinclude Russia, Great Britain, China, the United States, France, Turkey, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland, and Israel, and other states would also be welcome to join the treaty.
Proposal 2: These international security guarantees for Ukraine would not extend to Crimea, Sevastopol, or certain areas of the Donbas. The parties to the agreement would need to define the boundaries of these regions or agree that each party understands these boundaries differently.
Proposal 3: Ukraine vows not to join any military coalitions or host any foreign military bases or troop contingents. Any international military exercises would be possible only with the consent of the guarantor-states. For their part, these guarantors confirm their intention to promote Ukraine’s membership in the European Union.
Proposal 4: Ukraine and the guarantor-states agree that (in the event of aggression, any armed attack against Ukraine, or any military operation against Ukraine) each of the guarantor-states, after urgent and immediate mutual consultations (which must be held within three days) on the exercise of the right to individual or collective self-defense (as recognized by Article 51 of the UN Charter) will provide (in response to and on the basis of an official appeal by Ukraine) assistance to Ukraine, as a permanently neutral state under attack. This aid will be facilitated through the immediate implementation of such individual or joint actions as may be necessary, including the closure of Ukraine’s airspace, the provision of necessary weapons, the use of armed force with the goal of restoring and then maintaining Ukraine’s security as a permanently neutral state.
Proposal 5: Any such armed attack (any military operation at all) and all measures taken as a result will be reported immediately to the UN Security Council. Such measures will cease when the UNSC takes the measures needed to restore and maintain international peace and security.
Proposal 6: Implementing protections against possible provocations, the agreement will regulate the mechanism for fulfilling Ukraine’s security guarantees based on the results of consultations between Ukraine and the guarantor-states.
Proposal 7: The treaty provisionally applies from the date it is signed by Ukraine and all or most guarantor-states. The treaty enters force after (1) Ukraine’s permanently neutral status is approved in a nationwide referendum, (2) the introduction of the appropriate amendments in Ukraine’s Constitution,and (3) ratification in the parliaments of Ukraine and the guarantor-states.
Proposal 8: The parties’ desire to resolve issues related to Crimea and Sevastopol shall be committed to bilateral negotiations between Ukraine and Russia for a period of 15 years. Ukraine and Russia also pledge not to resolve these issues by military means and to continue diplomatic resolution efforts.
Proposal 9: The parties shall continue consultations (with the involvement of other guarantor-states) to prepare and agree on the provisions of a Treaty on Security Guarantees for Ukraine, ceasefire modalities, the withdrawal of troops and other paramilitary formations, and the opening and ensuring of safe-functioning humanitarian corridors on an ongoing basis, as well as the exchange of dead bodies and the release of prisoners of war and interned civilians.
Proposal 10: The parties consider it possible to hold a meeting between the presidents of Ukraine and Russia for the purpose of signing a treaty and/or adopting political decisions regarding other remaining unresolved issues.

 

[Akim]

If you say so. The people in the Donbass and Luhansk regions and other Russian speaking Ukrainians in sizable numbers in other areas of Ukraine say differently. That is why you have this conflict.

We don't have a language conflict. This legend was invented by the Kremlin back in 2004.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Doesn't make sense.

If they can't get a puppet regime or a constitutional guarantee for neutrality the whole war will be for naught.

That's the maximalist view.. If Russian forces can't achieve that objective even after a month, then, it is right for Russia, to go for increasing the buffer between itself and Ukranian Rump state..

 

[Suryavanshi]

I think we are being a bit harsh on Akim here, his nazi rhetoric not withstanding. He belongs to a country which is losing a war and our taunt might not be the easiest thing to deal with so give him a slack. He deserves this much because at the end of the day he is at least not a no Izzat Porki.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

What else is left in Kyiv. It's already destroyed.
U better pray for urself. They coming to Odessa.
Militaries won't be fighting nuclear war for a defunct and hollow state.
Come out of hallucination. West has already destroyed ur country.

Kyiv City Proper has bared been scratched.. You could say, the Ukrainians have successfully defended it until now..
What Akim means is.. Russia does not have what it takes to destroy Ukraine, without using nuclear weapons..

 

[Neptune]

More than 250,000 are participating in the offensive. The number of aircraft has indeed decreased. Russia uses them only for offensives. For shelling - only cruise and ballistic missiles.

Russian sorties increased since the beginning of the war with no losses in a long time. Russia also is primarily on the offensive but used aircraft for Ukrainian counter offensives in many areas such as the Hostomel airport and Kherson.

Ukraine forces west of Kherson got hit hard with Russian aviation and artillery.

 

[Blademaster]

Kyiv City Proper has bared been scratched.. You could say, the Ukrainians have successfully defended it until now..
What Akim means is.. Russia does not have what it takes to destroy Ukraine, without using nuclear weapons..

I beg to disagree. Russia does have what it takes to ruin and destroy the concept of Ukraine and is already doing that.

 

[mokoman]

I think we are being a bit harsh on Akim here, his nazi rhetoric not withstanding. He belongs to a country which is losing a war and our taunt might not be the easiest thing to deal with so give him a slack. He deserves this much because at the end of the day he is no Izzat Porki.

guy may lose his home , meanwhile people enjoying watching the war

say what u will , both Russian and Ukrainians have more aukut than us .

 

[temujin]

Just listened to the Russian briefing following talks in Istanbul today- sounds like Minsk 3 in the making and an acknowledgement that Russia is scaling back it's military objectives. This would be perceived as a victory of sorts in Kiev and further embolden the fascist regime and it's Western cheerleaders.

It has become increasingly apparent that the ordinary Ukrop hasn't turned on Zeleenkyyy as quickly as Putin had perhaps hoped, partly as a result of brainwashing but, more importantly, due to fear of reprisals should Russian territorial gains turn out to be temporary and the fascists are restored to power with overwhelming Western/NATO support. One can only hope Putin is using these negotiations as a tactical breather to regroup and strategise before the final push towards the Dnieper or else he won't have a lot to show for the collosal loss of Russian lives, equipment and damage to the economy from this conflict.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

I think we are being a bit harsh on Akim here, his nazi rhetoric not withstanding. He belongs to a country which is losing a war and our taunt might not be the easiest thing to deal with so give him a slack. He deserves this much because at the end of the day he is no Izzat Porki.

I kinda believed the same, until the guy (or gal) actually whitewashed the Nazi battalions like Azov and painted a picture of them being extremely humanitarian and peace-loving organizations, who are in his own words, "respected by a lot of people".

For me personally, any sympathy I might have had flies out of the window at that point. And I think any brown guy would probably think the same, if he's not self-loathing. Why in the hell would I ever cry for white supremacists?

 

[couchPotato]

As for tactics and ATGMs, I disagree. I notice that you still have to stick your head out in the open to acquire the targets and that makes you very visible to overhead UAVs with imaging equipment. So I suspect that from now on, armor units will send their UAVs ahead to screen the enemy forces out and have spotters at the standby to take those ATGMS teams out. No armor unit operates in itself. You always have to have infantry support to be successful.

Use of air assets ahead of the armour to counter ambushes with ATGM is apparently not a new idea. The US was said to have used hepters in Iraq/Afghanistan in the same manner. The whole war highlighted the importance of drones and their counters.

 

[Akim]

Russian sorties increased since the beginning of the war with no losses in a long time. Russia also is primarily on the offensive but used aircraft for Ukrainian counter offensives in many areas such as the Hostomel airport and Kherson.

Ukraine forces west of Kherson got hit hard with Russian aviation and artillery.

This idiot's content is blocked in my country.
You can listen to fairy tales, but I repeat: Russia uses expensive "Kh-series" cruise missiles, because air defense often destroys Russian Su.

 

[Neptune]

Just listened to the Russian briefing following talks in Istanbul today- sounds like Minsk 3 in the making and an acknowledgement that Russia is scaling back it's military objectives. This would be perceived as a victory of sorts in Kiev and further embolden the fascist regime and it's Western cheerleaders.

It has become increasingly apparent that the ordinary Ukrop hasn't turned on Zeleenkyyy as quickly as Putin had perhaps hoped, partly as a result of brainwashing but, more importantly, due to fear of reprisals should Russian territorial gains turn out to be temporary and the fascist are restored to power with overwhelming Western/NATO support. One can only hope Putin is using these negotiations as a tactical breather to regroup and strategise before the final push towards the Dnieper or else he won't have a lot to show for the collosal loss of Russian lives, equipment and damage to the economy from this conflict.

Putin also said he pulled back forces before the Ukrainian invasion and that the soldiers in Belarus were only there for “military exercise”. Putin has no intentions of leaving or conceding anything. Putin is dangling a carrot in front of a Zelinski, he wanted Zelinkski to capitulate to his demands.

 

[Blademaster]

Just listened to the Russian briefing following talks in Istanbul today- sounds like Minsk 3 in the making and an acknowledgement that Russia is scaling back it's military objectives. This would be perceived as a victory of sorts in Kiev and further embolden the fascist regime and it's Western cheerleaders.

It has become increasingly apparent that the ordinary Ukrop hasn't turned on Zeleenkyyy as quickly as Putin had perhaps hoped, partly as a result of brainwashing but, more importantly, due to fear of reprisals should Russian territorial gains turn out to be temporary and the fascists are restored to power with overwhelming Western/NATO support. One can only hope Putin is using these negotiations as a tactical breather to regroup and strategise before the final push towards the Dnieper or else he won't have a lot to show for the collosal loss of Russian lives, equipment and damage to the economy from this conflict.

Please do not believe the western narrative about Russian casualties. Right now it is under 2000 and I tend to believe the Russia version over the western version just because of the sheer amount of propaganda and lies being pushed out of the western world.

And please do not believe that the Russians are going to accept this. The only way they would accept this if Donbass and Luhansk were completely liberated and all Russian gains be folded into the Donbass and Luhansk republics and Novorussiya state and Ukraine do not join any military alliance and have no foreign troops stationed and all sanctions lifted up and all Russian assets return back to Russia. Anything less than that, Russia have no incentive to halt this conflict.