Naxals/Maoists Watch

Should the Indian government use armed forces against the naxals/maoists?


  • Total voters
    426

MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00

VICTORIOUM AUT MORS
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2019
Messages
3,105
Likes
10,278
Using ucav will do more damge than preventing insurgency. More people will be radicalized.
Prefer using small specially trained teams to target Maoist leaders using sniper and other means .do stealth operation.Take out leaders rest are just cannon fodder.
CRPF, STF and DRG all operate in small man teams in Naxalite Effected areas. The area is already highly radicalised.
 
Last edited:

MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00

VICTORIOUM AUT MORS
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2019
Messages
3,105
Likes
10,278
Wow can't believe these jungle roaming scums are still bleeding us even after 70 yrs. We don't have any strategy to counter them yet.
The Only strategy India is using is lighting equipped units into the jungle without any support fire support and playing hide and seek with the Maoist. India’s so called Anti-Naxal strategy is failure and must be revised.
 

MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00

VICTORIOUM AUT MORS
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2019
Messages
3,105
Likes
10,278
This is the third or fourth time we are losing 10 to 20 soldiers in encounter with maoists. How is this possible? This is Unacceptable. Communist Insurgencies aren’t a recent phenomenon they been happening around the world for decades especially Latin/South America, Southeast/East Asia and some parts of Africa. The communist guerrilla armies that were fighting the governments in these regions had a lot more numbers, weapons and training compared to the ones we are fighting right now in India. I can’t imagine how the CRPF and local state police forces would have fared if they were fighting a Commie Guerrilla force similar to Viet Cong in India with current Anti-Naxal strategy.
 

Vishalreddy3

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2020
Messages
2,367
Likes
8,637
Country flag
This is the third or fourth time we are losing 10 to 20 soldiers in encounter with maoists. How is this possible? This is Unacceptable. Communist Insurgencies aren’t a recent phenomenon they been happening around the world for decades especially Latin/South America, Southeast/East Asia and some parts of Africa. The communist guerrilla armies that were fighting the governments in these regions had a lot more numbers, weapons and training compared to the ones we are fighting right now in India.
If you think maoist are well armed, then look no further than communists in Philippines!!! They are better armed than CRPF in every aspect
 

MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00

VICTORIOUM AUT MORS
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2019
Messages
3,105
Likes
10,278
If you think maoist are well armed, then look no further than communists in Philippines!!! They are better armed than CRPF in every aspect
Maoist/Naxalites in India are weakest communist leftist terrorists in the world they are nothing in front for example the Red Army of China or Viet Ming/Cong or Colombian FARC and a lot of others in the world including Commie terrorists from Philippines.
 

Vishalreddy3

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2020
Messages
2,367
Likes
8,637
Country flag
Maoist/Naxalites in India are weakest communist leftist terrorists in the world they are nothing in front for example the Red Army of China or Viet Ming/Cong or Colombian FARC.
Maoist in my opinion is by far the weakest communist insurgent group in the whole world, even Nepalese commies were better armed. Still it's impossible for us to do anything pretty much.
 

Knowitall

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2019
Messages
7,930
Likes
35,897
We once had a leader who knew exactly how to deal with this nonsense and someone who didn't give a damn about what the world thought and did what was needed to be done. Not everything she did was right far from it but there were problems she did handle well.

When the then-Assam government refused to part with funds to help a Mizo District Council bracing for mautam's effects, Ranganathan writes here, it set off a chain of events that included the formation of the Mizo National Front (MNF).

By March 2, the MNA had overrun the Aizawl treasury and armoury and was at the headquarters of the Assam Rifles. It had also captured several smaller towns south of Aizawl. The military tried to ferry troops and weapons by helicopter, but was driven away by MNA snipers.

So, at 11:30 am on March 5, the air force attacked Aizawl with heavy machine gun fire. On March 6, the attack intensified, and incendiary bombs were dropped.

At the that time, there was one road coming south from Silchar in Assam, that traveled all the way down to where the state’s limits ended. To the east and west of this road were vast tracts of forests, hills and ravines, dotted with hundreds of villages. The military plan was to gather villagers from all over, and cluster them along the side of this road. These new, so-called Protected and Progressive Villages (PPVs),

In every case, villagers refused to move. When they were coerced to march, they would refuse to burn down their properties. Then, the military officer and his men would torch the whole place down. They would march in a column guarded by the military, to their designated PPV.

Life here was tough: each resident was numbered and tagged, going and coming was strictly regulated and rations were meagre.

The scale of the Mizoram regrouping was awesome. Out of 764 villages, 516 were evacuated and squeezed into 110 PPVs. In the Aizawl area, about 95% of the rural population was herded into PPVs.

We need not follow the same thing we could make a few changes likes spreading the villagers throughout India and giving them jobs using drones instead of planes controlling chokepoints etc.

The reality is that there is simply no political will to do anything bas votes dedo and something will be done on some imaginary x year. The govt has changed but the people the bureaucracy the important positions all are held by the same people. The urban naxals the reporters the
sympathizers still operate talk without any repercussions the police is still the same and the people who lead them too.
 
Last edited:

Lonewolf

Psychopathic Neighbour
Senior Member
Joined
Jan 26, 2021
Messages
7,336
Likes
27,691
Country flag
Why not use ir based devices and night vision sensor ,thermal sensor , install them in army strongholds , in paths which are used regularly put some sensor hidden well on trees with battery backup of a week or so , if it receive signal , send drones for further surveillance , if i fo is right follow on attack by small drones , ambush them , kill as much as possible , put remotely operated machine gun prior to theur arrival , guard them with armour , they can't damage your gun .


If they are getting guns from ofb , try supplying them guns with a chip with powerpack for a week or so , hidden inside some part , track it , when get location of their hideout , repeat a balakot with helis or drones .

Kill overt so called intellectual supporter in car accident , message will be sentence
 

Maharaj samudragupt

Kritant Parashu
Banned
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Messages
7,650
Likes
21,949
Country flag
We once had a leader who knew exactly how to deal with this nonsense and someone who didn't give a damn about what the world thought and did what was needed to be done. Not everything she did was right far from it but there were problems she did handle well.

When the then-Assam government refused to part with funds to help a Mizo District Council bracing for mautam's effects, Ranganathan writes here, it set off a chain of events that included the formation of the Mizo National Front (MNF).

By March 2, the MNA had overrun the Aizawl treasury and armoury and was at the headquarters of the Assam Rifles. It had also captured several smaller towns south of Aizawl. The military tried to ferry troops and weapons by helicopter, but was driven away by MNA snipers.

So, at 11:30 am on March 5, the air force attacked Aizawl with heavy machine gun fire. On March 6, the attack intensified, and incendiary bombs were dropped.

At the that time, there was one road coming south from Silchar in Assam, that traveled all the way down to where the state’s limits ended. To the east and west of this road were vast tracts of forests, hills and ravines, dotted with hundreds of villages. The military plan was to gather villagers from all over, and cluster them along the side of this road. These new, so-called Protected and Progressive Villages (PPVs),

In every case, villagers refused to move. When they were coerced to march, they would refuse to burn down their properties. Then, the military officer and his men would torch the whole place down. They would march in a column guarded by the military, to their designated PPV.

Life here was tough: each resident was numbered and tagged, going and coming was strictly regulated and rations were meagre.

The scale of the Mizoram regrouping was awesome. Out of 764 villages, 516 were evacuated and squeezed into 110 PPVs. In the Aizawl area, about 95% of the rural population was herded into PPVs.

We need not follow the same thing we could make a few changes likes spreading the villagers throughout India and giving them jobs using drones instead of planes controlling chokepoints etc.

The reality is that there is simply no political will to do anything bas votes dedo and something will be done on some imaginary x year. The govt has changed but the people the bureaucracy the important positions all are held by the same people. The urban naxals the reporters the
sympathizers still operate talk without any repercussions the police is still the same and the people who lead them too.
Those were indias finest hours in security front.
 

Vishalreddy3

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2020
Messages
2,367
Likes
8,637
Country flag
Why not use ir based devices and night vision sensor ,thermal sensor , install them in army strongholds , in paths which are used regularly put some sensor hidden well on trees with battery backup of a week or so , if it receive signal , send drones for further surveillance , if i fo is right follow on attack by small drones , ambush them , kill as much as possible , put remotely operated machine gun prior to theur arrival , guard them with armour , they can't damage your gun .


If they are getting guns from ofb , try supplying them guns with a chip with powerpack for a week or so , hidden inside some part , track it , when get location of their hideout , repeat a balakot with helis or drones .

Kill overt so called intellectual supporter in car accident , message will be sentence
I was about to say this, not only arm commando units with night fighting capability, but we can use thermal/IR/etc vision installed on the drones and use them in night ops. If you have observed maoists never really attack at night because they pretty much have no capability and capacity to do it. Night ops should be used regularly to harass them constantly and take them out one by one.
 

Knowitall

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2019
Messages
7,930
Likes
35,897
Those were indias finest hours in security front.
You might most probably know about it but do read about Indira's doctrine even today till this day we were never able to form a policy so ambitious and good and then be able to execute it with full political backing.

The combined application of our bureaucracy our intelligence services and the hard power of our military to build and maintain our hegemony in SEA truly visionary.
 

Maharaj samudragupt

Kritant Parashu
Banned
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Messages
7,650
Likes
21,949
Country flag
You might most probably know about it but do read about Indira's doctrine even today till this day we were never able to form a policy so ambitious and good and then be able to execute it with full political backing.
O hell yes , she was the best pm when it came to security , bombing shit out of aizwal or operation steeplechase or bangaldesh war or blue star etc
 

pruthvi24

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2017
Messages
362
Likes
1,200
Country flag
dear Mods I sincerely apologize for posting the insensitive post it was not my intention to hurt the sentiments of any person my intention was to point out how insensitive it was of Indian media and the failure of security forces who have no checks and balances regarding the information flow to our media channels
 

Tactical Doge

𝕱𝖔𝖔𝖑𝖘 𝖗𝖚𝖘𝖍 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖑𝖘 𝖋𝖊𝖆𝖗
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2019
Messages
9,927
Likes
60,349
Country flag
Why not use ir based devices and night vision sensor ,thermal sensor , install them in army strongholds , in paths which are used regularly put some sensor hidden well on trees with battery backup of a week or so , if it receive signal , send drones for further surveillance , if i fo is right follow on attack by small drones , ambush them , kill as much as possible , put remotely operated machine gun prior to theur arrival , guard them with armour , they can't damage your gun .


If they are getting guns from ofb , try supplying them guns with a chip with powerpack for a week or so , hidden inside some part , track it , when get location of their hideout , repeat a balakot with helis or drones .

Kill overt so called intellectual supporter in car accident , message will be sentence
There's this YouTube original series called Age of AI hosted by Robert Downey Jr

In that I saw a specific system powered by AI, out to use in central Africa against poachers, which can differentiate between normal feed and feed with a human figure in it, can even tell is the figure is armed, and the most interesting part is, the existing trap cameras was upgraded for this program, it didn't even take much effort, just install a kit an ready to roll

I believe a similar system is required, regular IR sensors can go off and go be false alarms every other minute
 

vampyrbladez

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2018
Messages
10,271
Likes
26,620
Country flag

Knowitall

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2019
Messages
7,930
Likes
35,897
No operational, intel failure, over 25-30 Naxals killed in Bijapur encounter: DG CRPF Kuldiep Singh

Everyone knows the reason for this. Such people are the reason why reforms cannot take place and this will again lead to the same cycle of losses.

khud ko bachane ke chakkar me desh ko duba denge.
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top