OneGrimPilgrim
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1)In Europe where it is not feasible like through jungles they have non asphalt roads, well they can build roads but they wish not to do so. Similar roads can be built there. An you can even drive a Porsche there.
sustainable development means, education first. There are no colleges no school no facility to educate the tribal where they can use their talent as profession. Do they have right or only we have rights to eat beef or not slaughter cow or all that nonsense when in actual the tribals are indigenous. An innovative mind would have many ideas to develop that region.
Tourism mafia wants to develop resorts in those forests and throw out tribals as they are not fit for employment.and mining mafia wants to pay government money and allow law less mining. Now these tribals will come to your and my city and use jhuggis to survive and become eye sore and then their women will do dhanda to feed themselves.
Is this what we want to do to our own people? I am highly against such plan!! These Naxals must be taught lessons but tribals are not Naxals. We need to differentiate
who are these protectors? They are naxals and politicians. It's a known fact.
You cannot deploy army man for this job unless until law is passed, or AFSPA is implemented or president rule is there. Army is not civil.
arrr, chhote chhote chhote! bro what are you doing?! buying the same propaganda that we were meant to counter? i brought your post here to put things in the proper context. who in their right minds would want the tribals to be left bereft of their belongings? as well, who in their right minds would want the tribals to be left behind us, at the mercy of the pro-poverty gangs of the maoshits & soul vultures?!
as i wrote earlier, you really need to give it some time and read what i had suggested to. you want the forces not to go there without proper gear and as you wrote........
then why do you want them to go to places having no roads or non-asphalt roads & left to be hung out to dry without supplies and support?! its evident that we guys ourselves dont go through the posts we write and the articles we share here, otherwise with respect to the context of the recent attack, we wouldnt have been arguing on roads & development & what-have-you. most of your assertions fall flat in the face of truth, esp. in the given context of the recent attack.there is lack of motivation
lack of professionalism
lack of planning
lack of concern for soldiers' life
Why would any soldier go in the jungle without proper gear. They should rather say NO, we aare not fighting our personal war. This is for country and if citizen of this country are least concerned why should the soldiers die.
Highly pathetic condition!! I have a serious resentment with the planners and officers and those who are planning this.
this is that Injeram-Bhejji road, under construction. it was while patrolling along this road that the CRPF men were killed in the ambush by the maoshits.
the crux of the issue? the fact that the government has been able to initiate and sustain the pace of construction of six main roads cutting through the maoist stronghold area of Jagargunda. its an 'epicenter' of the maoshit prowess! and the maoshits, understandably, are miffed & frustrated as hell, which they also demonstrated by stabbing the personnel multiple times!
there is no question now as to what the govt would do! no, they wont stop construction of roads. they only have to choose between whether the personnel should be made to continue to guard the construction sites, or be ordered to venture deep into the maoshit territories.
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i understand your grouse regarding the mining mafia, which is also........
ANDBecause, our bureaucrats don't compensate the tribals and cannot even convince the ministers, they don't make a solid plan and model for sustainable development because of incompetency. They fool them and tribals become labours. Then they flood your beautiful cities. The girls become prostitutes and men become daily wagers. Poverty increases, crime increases...
Do we have any industrial law? NO! the Mining laws are 120 years old which we are still running.
You change the law and things in whole India will become easy. It's fucking law which is causing trouble. Nothing else!!!!
The solution to all these problem is fucking amendment in the constitution.
however, things are not entirely the same as before....the 'protection money' has less to do with any protection, but its a JAZIYA thats extracted from miners AS WELL AS businessmen (am not talking of corporate honchos here, but small-time village tribal businessmen and medium-scale businesses/industries) by the maoshits. read this too:Personally, I don't like mining. Vanvasi lands are for vanvasi people. They have their own way of life. We have no right to takes their lands from them.
It will be like the Colonial times. How Europeans killed and displaced Native American people for their lands.
We are no different from them if we see the situation from certain POV.
Then bigger picture.
3)There is a hell lot of difference now. Forest rights act is implemented. PESA is implemented. Tribals can oppose mining democratically and have succeeded too. In Niyamgiri hills tribal Panchayat / Gram Sabha had power to decline mining and did exactly that.
Then where is the need or point of violence.
Violence is being used to suppress these democratic institutions . Naxals are effecting armed dictatorship . It can't be allowed to continue in the name of tribal rights.
sorry, the alleged 'tourism-mafia' bogey is not convincing. as i had wrote, you gotta read about the Dholkal Ganesh episode. the tribals were BENEFITING from the site-visit by domestic and int'l tourists which were increasing by the numbers. oh but how can the pro-poverty gangs tolerate it?! they vandalised the historic statue thus!
while unbridled commercialisation indeed is a legitimate concern, but IMO not seen here. there are other novel ways to promoto tourism, and am yet to personally see any instance of a spot developed for tourism and the locals having been shooed away, for in my experience of umpteen visits to forests and historical sites, i have found the locals (even ex-poachers) gainfully employed, with their homes and villages intact AND benefiting from another robust source of income and money inflow from it. and eco-tourism is a very good way and alternative solution to that end! why isnt this a sustainable development? why do you want the tribals to be bereft of economic progress and good days out of poverty and misery? how do you picture them? as some semi-naked folk going about their ways munching at shrubs & rabbits? here're some real pictures, again, of tribals, with one hand in their traditions and the other, aspiring and desirous of a better life, reaping the benefits of economic progress:
(parents killed by maoshits, she wants to become a doctor)
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