LOC, LAC & IB skirmishs

[LETHALFORCE]

http://morungexpress.com/assam-floods-china-connection/

Assam floods: The China connection

 

[Mikesingh]

Conclusive proof that it was an Indian Army soldier who kicked PLA guy off the cliff. The link looks shady but its a reputed website and content is legit.

I signed up just to post this here so we can STOP thinking our army LIES and start believing that we have it in us to beat back the Chinese

Link - liveleakdotcom/view?i=0c3_1503368317

Weird link as the board is filtering my post since I registered today.

Note ITBP uniform, helmets and banner. Checks out 100% with the earlier leaked video!

Jai Hind!

This is what I'm getting....

This site can’t be reached
liveleakdotcom’s server DNS address could not be found.

• Did you mean http://www.liveleak.com/view?
• Search Google for liveleak dotcom view

ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

 

[Ranvijay]

This is what I'm getting....

This site can’t be reached
liveleakdotcom’s server DNS address could not be found.

• Did you mean http://www.liveleak.com/view?
• Search Google for liveleak dotcom view

ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

Youtube Link -
30000000000000000

 

[lcafanboy]

3000000000000000000000000000000000000000

 

[Project Dharma]

I signed up just to post this here so we can STOP thinking our army LIES and start believing that we have it in us to beat back the Chinese

Who is saying the Army lies? Has the Army made a statement? Those are not Army troops in the video, they are ITBP and on the right.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Only ITBP does the patrolling there and Army units are stationed behind ITBP posts ..

 

[lcafanboy]

All Xi’s men: China’s armies get new commanders
China’s recent confirmation of 26 new commanders for the People’s Liberation Army’s 13 group armies is another step in an ongoing shake up to strengthen the control of President Xi Jinping
By ZI YANG AUGUST 22, 2017 12:53 PM (UTC+8)

China recently confirmed 26 new commanders in the People’s Liberation Army’s 13 group armies that saw not a single leader staying with his old unit, with most receiving postings to far away regions from their theater of command.

Why the shake up in its armed forces, the world’s largest with 2.3 million personnel, when there are conflicts brewing on China’s left and right flanks?

THE DAILYBrief

Must-reads from across Asia - directly to your inbox
In April, the PLA eliminated five group armies, in keeping with its modernization plan to prune the ground force to make it a more versatile and combat-capable organization.

At present, each of China’s five theaters of command control two to three group armies.

Each has combat and non-combat units divided into the following: infantry, armor, artillery, anti-aircraft warfare, anti-chemical warfare, cyber warfare, army aviation, engineer, communications, transportation, pontoon bridge construction, education and training, military hospitals, and arts troupe.

The size of a group army varies from 30,000 to 80,000 men. We know little about the new commanders besides their brief biographies, but some of the transfers are quite baffling.

For example, Major General Fan Chengcai, the new commander of the 76th group army responsible for Tibet, previously had a long career in the 14th group army of Yunnan Province, a subtropical region very different from the Roof of the World.

His comrade-in-arms, the political commissar Major General Zhang Hongbing served mostly in Henan Province, famous for its open plains. They could be experts in high-altitude, cold-weather warfare, but their background doesn’t indicate that.

There is an alternative explanation to how these decisions were made. While increasing combat effectiveness may be the long-term goal, the immediate concern of the PLA’s commander-in-chief Xi Jinping is about domestic politics.

The personnel reorganization is Xi’s attempt to curb military factionalism, better rendered in Chinese as “mountaintopism” or shantou zhuyi.

Influential Chinese military chiefs tend to build their leadership team based on personal loyalty. Turning the party’s army into their personal army, these commanders become in the words of Mao Zedong “mountaintops” that pose a challenge to the PLA’s cohesion as well as the supreme leader’s authority.

The Qing dynasty fell because a powerful general acquired total control of the New Army. Similarly, Chiang Kai-shek’s defeat on the mainland has been blamed on his failure in containing military factionalism.

The last thing Xi wants to see is collusion between generals and political opponents to derail November’s 19th party congress, when Xi will be crowned China’s paramount leader.

The last thing Xi wants to see is collusion between generals and political opponents in derailing November’s 19th party congress, when Xi will be crowned China’s paramount leader.

Since early this year, Xi has accelerated the promotion of his own generals to the PLA’s highest echelons. In July and August, Xi promoted several dozens of generals, lieutenant generals and major generals to add weight to his control.

Then, to reduce the threat from regional commanders, Xi employed Mao’s old trick of removing them from their familiar environment and away from confidants.

The brand-new unit designations for the 13 group armies, numbering from 71 to 84, also shows Xi’s ambition in tearing down existing loyalty networks and rebuilding the army entirely as his own.

Like all other armed forces, the PLA’s unit designations carry history and esprit de corps. But fresh designations convey new allegiance.

According to the PLA Daily, the number 71 represents July 1st or the Chinese Communist Party’s founding day. The message is clear here — the party leader is the PLA’s nucleus, not the regional commandants.

Although expanding combat effectiveness is the group army reform’s premier goal, the assurance of loyalty is equally important.

The great army personnel overhaul reveals Xi is taking another step towards absolute control over the PLA top brass as he prepares to strengthen his power at the 19th congress.
http://www.atimes.com/article/xis-men-chinas-armies-get-new-commanders/

 

[aditya10r]

All Xi’s men: China’s armies get new commanders
China’s recent confirmation of 26 new commanders for the People’s Liberation Army’s 13 group armies is another step in an ongoing shake up to strengthen the control of President Xi Jinping
By ZI YANG AUGUST 22, 2017 12:53 PM (UTC+8)

China recently confirmed 26 new commanders in the People’s Liberation Army’s 13 group armies that saw not a single leader staying with his old unit, with most receiving postings to far away regions from their theater of command.

Why the shake up in its armed forces, the world’s largest with 2.3 million personnel, when there are conflicts brewing on China’s left and right flanks?

THE DAILYBrief

Must-reads from across Asia - directly to your inbox
In April, the PLA eliminated five group armies, in keeping with its modernization plan to prune the ground force to make it a more versatile and combat-capable organization.

At present, each of China’s five theaters of command control two to three group armies.

Each has combat and non-combat units divided into the following: infantry, armor, artillery, anti-aircraft warfare, anti-chemical warfare, cyber warfare, army aviation, engineer, communications, transportation, pontoon bridge construction, education and training, military hospitals, and arts troupe.

The size of a group army varies from 30,000 to 80,000 men. We know little about the new commanders besides their brief biographies, but some of the transfers are quite baffling.

For example, Major General Fan Chengcai, the new commander of the 76th group army responsible for Tibet, previously had a long career in the 14th group army of Yunnan Province, a subtropical region very different from the Roof of the World.

His comrade-in-arms, the political commissar Major General Zhang Hongbing served mostly in Henan Province, famous for its open plains. They could be experts in high-altitude, cold-weather warfare, but their background doesn’t indicate that.

There is an alternative explanation to how these decisions were made. While increasing combat effectiveness may be the long-term goal, the immediate concern of the PLA’s commander-in-chief Xi Jinping is about domestic politics.

The personnel reorganization is Xi’s attempt to curb military factionalism, better rendered in Chinese as “mountaintopism” or shantou zhuyi.

Influential Chinese military chiefs tend to build their leadership team based on personal loyalty. Turning the party’s army into their personal army, these commanders become in the words of Mao Zedong “mountaintops” that pose a challenge to the PLA’s cohesion as well as the supreme leader’s authority.

The Qing dynasty fell because a powerful general acquired total control of the New Army. Similarly, Chiang Kai-shek’s defeat on the mainland has been blamed on his failure in containing military factionalism.

The last thing Xi wants to see is collusion between generals and political opponents to derail November’s 19th party congress, when Xi will be crowned China’s paramount leader.

The last thing Xi wants to see is collusion between generals and political opponents in derailing November’s 19th party congress, when Xi will be crowned China’s paramount leader.

Since early this year, Xi has accelerated the promotion of his own generals to the PLA’s highest echelons. In July and August, Xi promoted several dozens of generals, lieutenant generals and major generals to add weight to his control.

Then, to reduce the threat from regional commanders, Xi employed Mao’s old trick of removing them from their familiar environment and away from confidants.

The brand-new unit designations for the 13 group armies, numbering from 71 to 84, also shows Xi’s ambition in tearing down existing loyalty networks and rebuilding the army entirely as his own.

Like all other armed forces, the PLA’s unit designations carry history and esprit de corps. But fresh designations convey new allegiance.

According to the PLA Daily, the number 71 represents July 1st or the Chinese Communist Party’s founding day. The message is clear here — the party leader is the PLA’s nucleus, not the regional commandants.

Although expanding combat effectiveness is the group army reform’s premier goal, the assurance of loyalty is equally important.

The great army personnel overhaul reveals Xi is taking another step towards absolute control over the PLA top brass as he prepares to strengthen his power at the 19th congress.
http://www.atimes.com/article/xis-men-chinas-armies-get-new-commanders/

So it is 11 jinping's army.

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[square]

if we enters India : FM china.


mujhko mallum tha ,

app ayge mere ghar ..

lykin .........

khud challa aaaya hu ,

mai yaad delaney ke liye.

 

[IndianHawk]

No war up until now. After so many warnings chinese turned out to be exactly what everyone knew all along. First rate cowards. At this point I can bet even if we start entering Chinese house and molest their women Chinese won't still fight.

Thankfully we are not barbaric. But the theory has now been tested and proved.

Chinese would rather cry than fight. Such pussy excuse of a nation is dreaming to be a suppa powwa.

 

[IndianHawk]

if we enters India : FM china.

That requires daring. Which chinese don't posses . They are first rate cowards.

 

[sorcerer]

No war up until now. After so many warnings chinese turned out to be exactly what everyone knew all along. First rate cowards. At this point I can bet even if we start entering Chinese house and molest their women Chinese won't still fight.

Thankfully we are not barbaric. But the theory has now been tested and proved.

Chinese would rather cry than fight. Such pussy excuse of a nation is dreaming to be a suppa powwa.

all the media debates in pakistan focus on this angle that pakistan cant rely on china for saving paki ass from India

had a good time laughing where all paki panalistas on the debate agreed that china is all fart .

 

[Butter Chicken]

Amul Ad...................................

 

[sorcerer]

Encounter underway in Kupwara, 2 to 3 terrorists trapped

Srinagar: An encounter broke out between the security forces and terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir’s Kupwara district on Tuesday.

The firing is currently underway and the entire area has been cordoned off.

http://www.thenorthlines.com/encounter-underway-kupwara-2-3-terrorists-trapped/

Any updates ?!!
These days everyone is so focused on doklam that media is not reporting the hit count on the paki pigs at LoC

 

[square]

President Trump's Speech - Full:
9:45....india and we will win !

15:40.....stretegic partnership with india.!

 

[sorcerer]

China’s video games on Doklam show why Beijing finds it hard to exert soft power

By now, you’ll have seen the disturbing film clip of Indian and Chinese soldiers attacking each other with fists and rocks near Pangong Lake, in Ladakh. Such scuffles are, we’re told, not unusual along the India-China border, but since civilians never get to see them, it doesn’t crease our brows. My own first reaction on seeing it was relief that neither side used any of the lethal arms at its disposal, which ensured that the encounter didn’t escalate from a street brawl. But on subsequent viewings, it was hard not to feel a frisson of primal fear at the sight of two nuclear-armed militaries coming to blows.

But in the hubbub created by that video, you may have missed another, in which Beijing attempted to use words where kicks and stones have failed. Last week, the Chinese official news agency Xinhua released a bizarre video in which a woman staffer, aided by a couple of colleagues, claims India has committed “seven sins” in its two-month standoff with China over Doklam. The video is unabashedly racist in its depiction of Indians, and patronising toward Bhutanese.


If the video was intended to shock and offend, all it did was mildly amuse. On social media, Indians chuckled at Xinhua’s attempt to dress up a Chinese man as an “Indian” by giving him a Sikh turban and the kind of fake beard you’d use in a skit for a 5-year-old’s birthday party. You have to wonder why the agency wasn’t able to hire a South Asian actor (A friendly Pakistani, perhaps?) to play the part. Also unintentionally funny was the woman staffer’s inexplicable use of an ersatz American accent, complete with California slang. At one point, she says: “Don’t you wanna play house, bro?”

That the attempt fell flat is unsurprising: Political humour is rare in China, where laughing at the ruling elite can be injurious to a professional comedian’s career, not to mention said comedian’s health and freedom. It’s hard to make fun of other governments when you’re not allowed to make jokes about your own. And it would too much to expect rapier sarcasm, or subtle ANYTHING, from so blunt an instrument of official propaganda as Xinhua.


But what, apart from its clumsiness, is one to make of the Xinhua video? It suggests Beijing wants to speak directly to Indians, over the heads of their political leaders, on the issue of Doklam. This is an interesting approach, even it was spoiled by the sheer ham-fistedness of the first effort.

The second was a slight improvement. On Monday, Xinhua released another video on the topic of Doklam, this time minus the overt racism, and with a tone that, by Beijing’s standards of bluster, is almost conciliatory. A male staffer (conspicuously unshorn by faux facial hair) suggests that India and China are both ancient civilizations, and “not born rivals”. Curiously, he surmises that THIS is why India should immediately withdraw from all “Chinese territory”. But he cannot resist the customary finger-wagging about the need for India to be “sober” and for Delhi to guard against “strategic myopia”.

At this rate of progress, it will be a long time, if such a time ever comes, before Delhi need worry about the effectiveness of Beijing’s propaganda directed at ordinary Indians. As any number of Sinologists have pointed out, the Chinese government struggles to exert any kind of soft power in the world, and especially in Asia. This is not because of its authoritarian nature: After all, even the Soviet Union was able to win friends, especially in the developing world, despite being a totalitarian state. Nor is it because the Delhi demonises Beijing: For one thing, the Indian government has been quite restrained, and for another, the United States was able to project soft power in India even when Indira Gandhi portrayed it as a foe.

The videos show that the problem lies with the Chinese government, and its default posture of condescension toward its neighbours. Even when seeking to speak directly to Indians, Beijing succumbs to its propensity to hector and harangue — and winds up making a laughing-stock of itself with its target audience.

Meanwhile, even as we giggle about fake beards, there’s real reason for the world to worry about what’s going on the India-China border. If frontier fisticuffs are indeed a quotidian part of the lives of the soldiers there, then their restraint is the more remarkable for it. But to indefinitely count on their continence would be foolish and irresponsible of their political masters.:bs:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/colum...about-china/story-4AzpOwcvrWmXSaaWBP2B0J.html

 

[square]

Alibaba's UC Browser has come under the government's scanner for alleged leak of mobile data of its Indian users and may be banned in the country if found guilty, a senior IT ministry official said today.

 

[sorcerer]

IT ministry writes to 9 more smartphone firms on data security
The nine companies include Reliance Retail’s Lyf, Motorola, Honor, Asus, OnePlus, InFocus among others.

The IT ministry has written to nine more mobile handset companies seeking information on their data security procedures, and intends to approach all the remaining smartphone brands, including Reliance Retail’s Lyf brand on the same, a senior official said.

The Electronics and IT ministry, on August 12, wrote to 21 companies, majority of them Chinese, asking them to outline the procedures and processes adopted by them to ensure security and privacy of users data.

Subsequently, nine more companies, including Motorola, Honor, Asus, OnePlus, InFocus have been added to that list, taking the total number of such companies to 30.

The IT ministry has now said it intends to ask all the remaining companies selling smartphones in India to provide details of the security processes followed by them to safeguard users’ data.

“All smartphone companies selling handsets in India should provide details about framework and procedures adopted by them for data security,” said the senior IT ministry official who did not wish to be named.

The official confirmed that all the remaining smartphone brands - including Reliance Retail’s lyf - will be approached for similar information.

A mail sent to Reliance Retail went unanswered.

Other companies that IT ministry has approached include Apple, Samsung, Huawei, Sony, Gionee, Oppo, HMD, Lava, Micromax, among others.

OPPO, in a statement on Monday, said it recognises the importance of data privacy of the customers and takes it “earnestly”.

“Every effort is made to collect and use personal data in full compliance with the current data privacy laws by the government and users permission,” it said.

OPPO further said: “with Global Security Support of our server partner, Amazon Web Service (AWS), complied with privacy protect regulations from Singapore where the server is located, OPPO provides worry-free guardian towards personal data saved on AWS”.

“OPPO or any third party cannot hack information from this server,” it said, adding the company also has cooperation with the renowned antivirus company Avast for its built-in anti-virus software for each OPPO device to protect users security and privacy from being attacked.

The directive on data security comes amid tension between India and China over Doklam, as also rising concerns over imports of Chinese IT and telecom products.

The IT ministry has cited international and domestic reports about data leaks from mobile phones, and said devices and preloaded software and apps will be under scrutiny in the first phase.

Based on the response of the companies, the ministry will initiate verification and audit of devices where required.

It has also warned of penalties under provisions of IT Act 43 (A) in case stipulated processes are not being followed.

The objective of the entire exercise is to ensure that required data security measures are being taken with regard to hardware and software in mobile phones.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/tech/...ta-security/story-hIeTEAjO0lY1pyBvub9klJ.html

 

[Kazah]

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[Project Dharma]

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1) Taqqia like their Pakistani concubines so that they make India look like the aggressors?

OR

2) Right side of the video is Chinese?

OR

3) There has been some other action that is not shown in the video. Maybe the video is older and the actions of Chinese have been avenged.