Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

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The "companion" has been left behind this time：

 

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[asianobserve]

Sea trials... at port.

 

[indian_sukhoi]

Thanks for sharing niceguy!!!

Now before we come up to a debate, Did the Carrier gone out of Port for trails or just had a small walk in the Port itself.

 

[Patriot]

Arrestors Sales Halted to Chinese Navy

Construction of the first Chinese aircraft carrier faced new unanticipated problems; it turned out that the former Soviet carrier Varyag was not equipped with arresters, and it is unclear where China could get them. In 2007 news agency Kanwa exclusively reported from St. Petersburg that China would buy 4 arresters designed by Marine Engineering Research Institute and made by Proletarsky Zavod plant which produces all Russian arresters and arresting hooks. Earlier on, China had contacts with this plant purchasing constituent parts for Project 956E/EM destroyers.

Kanwa reported referring to a source in the plant that the Chinese had visited it many times and declared intentions to purchase at least 4 arresters (the source used the term "purchase"). The talks took place in the office of Rosoboronexport; negotiators of Proletarsky Zavod presented their production, and the Chinese requested for technical information.

In 2011 the authoritative source told to Kanwa reporter that the negotiations were facing unexpected problems – Russian defense industry's authorities had decided not to sell arresters for China.

According to the source, China managed to get arresting hooks from Ukraine instead of buying them directly from Marine Engineering Research Institute and Proletarsky Zavod plant; those arresters were suitable for operational training aircraft JL-9 and "copied" J-15.

What made Russia refuse to sell arresters to China in the very nick of time? Kanwa repeatedly asked Russian defense and foreign ministries about China's purchase of Russian aircraft carrier construction technology. Official reply was the same: "it is prohibited to export strategic armament systems to China. Aircraft carriers, nuclear-powered submarines, nuclear weapons production technologies – all that are strategic arms".

However, Kanwa inquired into the subject and it became apparent that real cause of the problem is not only "the ban on strategic arms exports to China" but Russia's discontent with China copying deck-based fighter Su-33. Take note, Marine Engineering Research Institute delivered two arresters for Indian aircraft carrier IAC and modernized Admiral Gorshkov. The institute also took part in construction of naval aviation training center built on Goa, India.

In 2007 the source told to Kanwa that designing and production of arresters was quite complicated process and only Russia and the US had appropriate technology at the moment. "In the past, there used to be four arresters on an aircraft carrier, but the new Indian carrier is equipped with only three arresters, which indicates of high reliability of Russian systems"

Representative of Rosoboronexport A. Plotnikov recently told to Kanwa that "China really wanted to buy arrestors but we did not sell them". This confirms the assumption that China has not Russian arrestors in inventory. In 2006 director of Marine Engineering Research Institute and Proletarsky Zavod plant told to Kanwa reporter that China was about to purchase four arresters and the parties had held several rounds of negotiations. However, in 2011 he said that "we've received an unexpected instruction from Moscow to cut off all contacts with Chinese partners. In other words, we cannot deliver arresters to China as well as other equipment for their aircraft carrier".

 

[asianobserve]

Arrestors Sales Halted to Chinese Navy

I think the picture is that of a steam catapult?

 

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Arrestors Sales Halted to Chinese Navy

Construction of the first Chinese aircraft carrier faced new unanticipated problems; it turned out that the former Soviet carrier Varyag was not equipped with arresters, and it is unclear where China could get them. In 2007 news agency Kanwa exclusively reported from St. Petersburg that China would buy 4 arresters designed by Marine Engineering Research Institute and made by Proletarsky Zavod plant which produces all Russian arresters and arresting hooks. Earlier on, China had contacts with this plant purchasing constituent parts for Project 956E/EM destroyers.

Kanwa reported referring to a source in the plant that the Chinese had visited it many times and declared intentions to purchase at least 4 arresters (the source used the term "purchase"). The talks took place in the office of Rosoboronexport; negotiators of Proletarsky Zavod presented their production, and the Chinese requested for technical information.

In 2011 the authoritative source told to Kanwa reporter that the negotiations were facing unexpected problems – Russian defense industry's authorities had decided not to sell arresters for China.

According to the source, China managed to get arresting hooks from Ukraine instead of buying them directly from Marine Engineering Research Institute and Proletarsky Zavod plant; those arresters were suitable for operational training aircraft JL-9 and "copied" J-15.

What made Russia refuse to sell arresters to China in the very nick of time? Kanwa repeatedly asked Russian defense and foreign ministries about China's purchase of Russian aircraft carrier construction technology. Official reply was the same: "it is prohibited to export strategic armament systems to China. Aircraft carriers, nuclear-powered submarines, nuclear weapons production technologies – all that are strategic arms".

However, Kanwa inquired into the subject and it became apparent that real cause of the problem is not only "the ban on strategic arms exports to China" but Russia's discontent with China copying deck-based fighter Su-33. Take note, Marine Engineering Research Institute delivered two arresters for Indian aircraft carrier IAC and modernized Admiral Gorshkov. The institute also took part in construction of naval aviation training center built on Goa, India.

In 2007 the source told to Kanwa that designing and production of arresters was quite complicated process and only Russia and the US had appropriate technology at the moment. "In the past, there used to be four arresters on an aircraft carrier, but the new Indian carrier is equipped with only three arresters, which indicates of high reliability of Russian systems"

Representative of Rosoboronexport A. Plotnikov recently told to Kanwa that "China really wanted to buy arrestors but we did not sell them". This confirms the assumption that China has not Russian arrestors in inventory. In 2006 director of Marine Engineering Research Institute and Proletarsky Zavod plant told to Kanwa reporter that China was about to purchase four arresters and the parties had held several rounds of negotiations. However, in 2011 he said that "we've received an unexpected instruction from Moscow to cut off all contacts with Chinese partners. In other words, we cannot deliver arresters to China as well as other equipment for their aircraft carrier".

You obviously haven't seen the video which shows the installation of the arrester。

Let's me repeat: China is in the midst of experimenting its magnetic-electric catapult system. So something as mundane as the arrester isn't going to stop China.

But you are free to believe Pinkov who is famed among Chinese military afficionadoes for being a complete joke and jerk.

 

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For those who take Pinkov's habitual lies and mumblings as the words of God：

The joke doing the round in Chinese defence forums is that Mr Pinkov strives so unremittingly to spread mis- and disinformation about the PLA， he might actually work for the Chinese intelligence services。

 

[DMF]

Sea trials... at port.

start from the port to be tested, maybe will sail to south China sea, Dalian is very cold now

 

[sayareakd]

when are we going to see fighters taking off from this old beauty ?

 

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[W.G.Ewald]

I think the picture is that of a steam catapult?

Exactly.

Weapon and Technology: UK Scrapping its own weapon system and borrowing from US

Also, the ships are designed to be fitted with steam catapults and the UK has also continued work on electro-magnetic catapults.

 

[redragon]

when are we going to see fighters taking off from this old beauty ?

There are rumour saying this time there will be taking off and landing test.
By the way, when will Indian older beauty be ready?

 

[LTE-TDD]

There are rumour saying this time there will be taking off and landing test.
By the way, when will Indian older beauty be ready?

do not worry, India belong to future.

 

[redragon]

India belong to future.

should be the other way around.

Joke aside, I think it's safe to say there must be 5-6 copied Su-33 or J-15, they have been tested for a while, the chance for one of them to land on the old fat lady this time is quite high, even in the CCTV news they are saying to test a fighter on it is something must be done in the sea trial of an AC. Hopfully, some insider can post some pictures

 

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[pmaitra]

I would like to invite Jay to comment on this thread, given what he has stated earlier:

Jay, I see you are online now. May I request a response to my post above?

 

[ice berg]

Meanwhile, on the road again.

 

[Illusive]

So even we would have to depend on other countries for these arresters for IAC1, right?