Kulbhushan Jadhav - Developments

[xeaaex]

ICJ will only adjudicate on jurisdiction tomorrow. Consular access or merit of the case will follow only after jurisdiction is decided.

In such an environment where they are having serious problems with all 3 neighbors, declared pariah state, bankrupt & internally weak it will b extremely difficult for them to walk away from the judgement (which will have consequences)

Does that mean they are going to decide whether or not this case ls in their jurisdiction or not?.

 

[Prashant Sharma]

Does that mean they are going to decide whether or not this case ls in their jurisdiction or not?.

Yes the ICJ will decide if this case is in their jurisdiction or not. Only after the jurisdiction is proved the case will proceed

 

[Screambowl]

India's Application to ICJ

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/168/19422.pdf

Indian's Arguments

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/168/19432.pdf

Pakistani arguments

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/168/19436.pdf


this was amazing U turn by Pakistanis

They said, it would be on merit, past few days they were not willing to give us that and said ICJ may not have jurisdiction over it, what went inside their pu**y that suddenly they have made this statement?

 

[PSYOP]

Even if ICJ receives India’s supplication and asks Pakistan not to execute Jadhav, “nothing can stop Pakistan to go ahead and accomplish him”.

 

[vinuzap]

and then nothing can stop india from lighting up LOC and scrapping all treaty with terrorist republic

accompolish means acheive something sucessfully seems this jihadi does not know what he says

 

[ezsasa]

Even if ICJ receives India’s supplication and asks Pakistan not to execute Jadhav, “nothing can stop Pakistan to go ahead and accomplish him”.

Watch paki TV debates on this Jadhav episode this past week, that will give you the answer.

 

[mendosa]

How are we planning to defend the multiple passports kulbhshan was having

The most likely outcome out of this seems bleak. When the deep state of Pakistan decides something to be an issue of personal pride, they don't listen to anyone. They hung their own prime minister against all foreign pressure, they bumped off Benazir Bhutto despite pressure from Hillary.

 

[PSYOP]

Watch paki TV debates on this Jadhav episode this past week, that will give you the answer.

You should watch yourself Indian TV channels and Indian debates, many anchors of your side questioning your government, that “how come this matter is taken to the ICJ?”, and this says and answers a lot.

 

[sthf]

Even if ICJ receives India’s supplication and asks Pakistan not to execute Jadhav, “nothing can stop Pakistan to go ahead and accomplish him”.

Excellent. Now you'll have that in mind that the next time Pakistan asks for ICJ or UN mediation in any bilateral issue like IWT, India can simply follow Pakistan's suite.

Now considering that Col. Habib is still "missing" it'd be shame if Pakistan runs back to the same ICJ.

 

[ezsasa]

You should watch yourself Indian TV channels and Indian debates, many anchors of your side questioning your government, that “how come this matter is taken to the ICJ?”, and this says and answers a lot.

One NDTV does not represent the entire Indian media, its more paki than most paki channels.

There are tickers running on almost all channels that India has 95% success rate tomorrow.

On the other hand Paki channels are debating, whether Pakistan is further isolated irrespective of the result at ICJ

 

[PSYOP]

and then nothing can stop india from lighting up LOC and scrapping all treaty with terrorist republic

accompolish means acheive something sucessfully seems this jihadi does not know what he says

Lol, It’s Accomplish, and not yours “accompolish”, learn the spellings first then know the meaning which is = finish, in that sense which I indirectly quoted.

 

[PSYOP]

Even if the ICJ were to end conscious hearing the case, India will find it difficult to win on the merits, because its all-inclusive strategy seems to rest on the fact that Jadhav was not given consular access while being imprisoned in Pakistan.

 

[PSYOP]

India is latent its case virtuously on the ICJ’s official opposition to the death penalty, without being able to present any indication to prove its claims that Jadhav was kidnapped by Pakistan from Iran. The fact is that India’s case at the ICJ is a rather feeble one and rates to be canned.

 

[PSYOP]

Pakistan resisted in the ICJ that Kulbhushan was a spy, as shown by his counterfeit passport and it will be up to India to prove he is not a spy and that his confession is not unaffected.

 

[Project Dharma]

Pakistan resisted in the ICJ that Kulbhushan was a spy, as shown by his counterfeit passport and it will be up to India to prove he is not a spy and that his concession is not unaffected.

They do have an explanation. Counterfeit passport for safety in a Muslim country as using a Hindu name he wouldn't be safe. And the other proof is his confession which they claim is forced. Since he didn't have a lawyer AND he didn't get consular access either his verdict should be thrown out. Most international law uses the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" unlike Pakistan which follows some fucked up Sharia bullshit.

 

[Screambowl]

According to the military, at least 135 out of 144 (94 per cent) people convicted by military courts “admitted” to their involvement in terrorism during their trials.
Suspects tried by military courts remain in military custody at all times, even after the magistrate records their “confessions”. They also have no access to the outside world, further compounding their vulnerability not only to torture and ill treatment, but also to other forms of external pressure and coercion. And, reportedly, some suspects were secretly detained by military authorities as far back as 2010 and kept in internment centers in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) before they “admitted” to their crimes during their military trials.
In the absence of adequate safeguards and independent review mechanisms in military proceedings, this high “confession” rate in circumstances described above raises serious questions about their voluntariness, and even concerns about torture and other ill treatment.

https://www.icj.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Pakistan-military-courts-QA-Advocacy-2016-ENG.pdf

findings by ICJ in year 2016 on Pakistan's military courts

 

[Prashant Sharma]

India is latent its case virtuously on the ICJ’s official opposition to the death penalty, without being able to present any indication to prove its claims that Jadhav was kidnapped by Pakistan from Iran. The fact is that India’s case at the ICJ is a rather feeble one and rates to be canned.

Typical porki liar. India has only presented arguments on ICJ's jurisdiction, which we have proved.
Duel/Fake Passport is no argument at all. Anyone can have it.
Now get lost

 

[vinuzap]

so you teach spelling to but from which Jihadi university or terrorist training camp

i would suggest better way to finish thing :

put some bomb in your vest and shout allah-ho-akbar in front of a pic of kulbhushan and detonate yourself and then you will finish what you want to , if india's case is freebie why a lawyer from terrorist republic was sent and why you are contesting things , case is about consular access not being spy

who has proved he is a spy ? military kangaroo court of pakistan

 

[sayareakd]

Pakistanis going insane even without reading whats mentioned, they are liking it.....

Btw killing 000's Pak will still means Big ZERO..........

 

[raheel besharam]

why is pak media fully convinced that judgement is going to be in their favor ?

even indian media is not celebrating early