Kaveri Engine

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Apart from the KAI T-50 Golden Eagle already in service with quite a few AFs & being pitched in minor quantities across the world there's the USAF Advanced Jet Trainer the T-7 Red Hawk which is still in advanced stages of development whose quantities could well be in hundreds .

Then of course you've the Mk-1a.

General Electric F404 - Wikipedia

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Boeing–Saab T-7 Red Hawk - Wikipedia

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The GE F404 utilized in the FA-50 is licensed produced in South Korea.
T-7 Red Hawk has recently entered serial production and GE is unlikely to scale up manufacturing before production of T-7 picks up pace.

 

[Azaad]

The GE F404 utilized in the FA-50 is licensed produced in South Korea.
T-7 Red Hawk has recently entered serial production and GE is unlikely to scale up manufacturing before production of T-7 picks up pace.

License produced in RoK obviously means asssembly work is done there apart from some sub assemblies being mfgd there with the bulk of the work being done by GE in the US.

So , the F-404 is required in some quantities , however meagre , to cater to new requirements & MLUs too apart from the LCA & Red Hawk which seems imminent as far as production goes.

If there's a delay in production as far as servicing India's need goes , I suspect it's not due to GE or its supply chain but due to extraneous factors like politics.

 

[Satish Sharma]

The GE F404 utilized in the FA-50 is licensed produced in South Korea.
T-7 Red Hawk has recently entered serial production and GE is unlikely to scale up manufacturing before production of T-7 picks up pace.

Hardly 15-20% components are made in Korea. usa has Hardly given tot arround 15%.

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

Hardly 15-20% components are made in Korea. usa has Hardly given tot arround 15%.

If 15% is given to their colony, we can't expect more than 6.9% tot

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Baba kalyani had said that India can make its own engine witching next 7 years if we focus properly in different technologies. We have not been able to finalize a Joint venture nor we are focusing on developing our own technology. How can we make our engine realized? I remember that Antony said that make a decision on new Air craft carrier at that time. We still evaluate proposal even after 1 decade. Engine JV negotiation are inconclusive even after one and half decades of talk. These idiots are indecisive useless. They are very poor decision makers.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Baba kalyani had said that India can make its own engine witching next 7 years if we focus properly in different technologies. We have not been able to finalize a Joint venture nor we are focusing on developing our own technology. How can we make our engine realized? I remember that Antony said that make a decision on new Air craft carrier at that time. We still evaluate proposal even after 1 decade. Engine JV negotiation are inconclusive even after one and half decades of talk. These idiots are indecisive useless. They are very poor decision makers.

Wait for 26 Jan you may hear some good news for engine jv

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Wait for 26 Jan you may hear some good news for engine jv

To fir Aap Ke munh mai ghee Shakkar.

 

[lcafanboy]

 

[TopWatcher]

Is this includes high altitude test?

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Is this includes high altitude test?

IG they can simulate HA conditions but this isnt a flying test bed.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

God knows why western companies give tech to China but not India. Why they hate India.

China was a pet of USA upto late 1990s like UK is today. From semiconductors to China's shipbuilding industry to Aviation to economic succes, US and EU played a great role. Fall of Soviet Union eliminated the requirement of China against USSR and now China has become ambitious to take over.

India has been having salty engagement with west since beginning. Danger of China and hope of India rising to contain it, has just faded that hate.

 

[shade]

China was a pet of USA upto late 1990s like UK is today. From semiconductors to China's shipbuilding industry to Aviation to economic succes, US and EU played a great role. Fall of Soviet Union eliminated the requirement of China against USSR and now China has become ambitious to take over.

India has been having salty engagement with west since beginning. Danger of China and hope of India rising to contain it, has just faded that hate.

Nope, UK is just a slave, China was fed and strenghtened by the cabal that runs the West precisely to play the role of the boogeyman it does today, they fed the masses and their own deepstate minions the chooran that "with economic growth, China will democratize on it's own" and this is the same country that does regime changes in every nation that hasn't fully bent over for them, imagine.

India is meant to be a slave per them, their mindset is that they own us and yet we don't follow all their diktats and so we need to be punished.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Nope, UK is just a slave, China was fed and strenghtened by the cabal that runs the West precisely to play the role of the boogeyman it does today,

Both PRC and UK were slaves of US in mid of cold war. In fact, UK back then was more independent and capable than China.

 

[spacemarine2023]

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fool doesn’t understand it was not the media which was keeping this on back burner it was US puppet regime of corrupt CONs headed by a Italian prosti which deliberately kept India down and mook infront of US and China

 

[no smoking]

Both PRC and UK were slaves of US in mid of cold war. In fact, UK back then was more independent and capable than China.

More independent? Really?
How many US soldiers deployed in China during cold war era? Zero!
How many US soldiers deployed in UK in the same period? over 50,000 in the peak!

Since 1960s, UK has been using US manufactured missile system for her strategic warheads while Chinese had always been using their own. In another words, to certain extent, the UK nuclear weapons have been under US' control.

More importantly, UK armed forces have always been part of NATO, which means they are under US command.
Even though Chinese was US' ally, their forces didn't answer to US.

 

[Satish Sharma]

More independent? Really?
How many US soldiers deployed in China during cold war era? Zero!
How many US soldiers deployed in UK in the same period? over 50,000 in the peak!

Since 1960s, UK has been using US manufactured missile system for her strategic warheads while Chinese had always been using their own. In another words, to certain extent, the UK nuclear weapons have been under US' control.

More importantly, UK armed forces have always been part of NATO, which means they are under US command.
Even though Chinese was US' ally, their forces didn't answer to US.

Dude china was certainly friendly towards west after 1979 when china opened up and Americans started outsourcing manufacturing to china also it came with single child policy so future domestic consumption will fall making china just a aspirant for super power status but actually no where in reality...
Look china aged before becoming a developed country do you know the falling export numbers the unemployment rate just imagine they stopped publishing it after 21%. Real estate is 30% which is fked up. See how many real estate companies have default of top 10.. those luxury train bullet trains are making just losses in billions the debt is just 900 billions on railways ministry equivalent of china..
70% population is invested in housing it is normal there , and with this huge supply this bubble will burst soon or it is slowly bursting.. people will loose alot of capital as it is devalueing.. not to mention falling birth rates.. usa made china big.

 

[no smoking]

God knows why western companies give tech to China but not India. Why they hate India.

No, they don't hate India.
The issue is that India doesn't pay the price as much as Chinese did.
Even before Chinese became West's ally, over 70 Chinese divisions were deployed on the Sino-Soviet border.
After Chinese signed the deal with US, the understanding was as soon as the WW3 starts, no matter who started, these 72 Chinese divisions would match north immediately to hold 40 soivet divisions so they couldn't move to Europe. As the consequence, Chinese were willing to bear over 2000 Soviet nukes attack.
That was the price Chinese was willing to pay for these techs.

 

[no smoking]

Dude china was certainly friendly towards west after 1979 when china opened up and Americans started outsourcing manufacturing to china also it came with single child policy so future domestic consumption will fall making china just a aspirant for super power status but actually no where in reality...
Look china aged before becoming a developed country do you know the falling export numbers the unemployment rate just imagine they stopped publishing it after 21%. Real estate is 30% which is fked up. See how many real estate companies have default of top 10.. those luxury train bullet trains are making just losses in billions the debt is just 900 billions on railways ministry equivalent of china..
70% population is invested in housing it is normal there , and with this huge supply this bubble will burst soon or it is slowly bursting.. people will loose alot of capital as it is devalueing.. not to mention falling birth rates.. usa made china big.

Does these have anything to do with the question I was talking about here: who was more independent during cold war, UK or China?

 

[Satish Sharma]

Does these have anything to do with the question I was talking about here: who was more independent during cold war, UK or China?

But I want to talk about decline of china

I Mean read my initial comment I also agree china was not a puppet of west but I went somewhere else also this thread is not for this discussion. It's better we stop here

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Borrow, but or steal. We need a good engine at any cost. A 75 Kn Dry and /125 KN + afterburner is the need of hour. If we are able to make this engine and put into MWF or AMCA, the platforms' capabilities will enhanced significantly. MWF can substitute MKIs in many roles. It will be a far superior Mirage 2000 with many modern features like Low RCS, State of art electronics, best in class weapon package etc.