You have to define the group.oh i am not satisfied with the government and we live as group in one area so according to your logic we should ask for separate nation?
You have to define the group.oh i am not satisfied with the government and we live as group in one area so according to your logic we should ask for separate nation?
Good for you. Dictator MMuthu.What ever it may be, Kashmir is a integrated part of India.
No one is a Dictator here....Good for you. Dictator MMuthu.
In which way are indians suffering because of this.Spliting India is the parting kick of the English to all Indians, Till today we are suffering.
I cant blame india, even pakistan have not learnt the lesson.What can we do, Even Gandhi is not capable to prevent this.
Listen Fighter.Really, not very democratic then.
I never said India is not a democracy.Listen Fighter.
India holds elections, therefore, it is a democracy. Get over it and move on, please.
oh i am not satisfied with the government and we live as group in one area so according to your logic we should ask for separate nation?
I as an Indian agree with you, that at the end of the day, Kashmiri citizens should have to right to self determination. They should be able to choose whether or not they want to be independent, be with India, or be with Pakistan. A democracy like India should allow for this to happen.But how can you know that the Kashmiris wish to belong to India without having a plebiscit? And a plebiscit does not have to be legally binding.
BTW Swedish plebiscits are not legally binding. But e.g. when the majority of Swedes said no to the Euro, our government and all political parties accepted the decision of the people.
I understand that the Kashmiri issue probably is a lot more complicated than which currency to use. But holding people by force against their will does not seem like a good idea to me. Look at the new states in Europe - Slovenia, Slovakia Tjeckia .....What is the problem? They are all members of EU now. Other new states -Croatia, Serbia etc are hoping to become members.
That has nothing to do with the Indian state or its constitution. Although caste system has been abolished by the state, many Hindus still follow it's rules. And at the end of the day it's their choice. The Indian government has no say in whether a person want's to marry a person of his/her own caste.I am not allowed to marry a girl who is not in my sub-sub-caste.... This sub-sub-caste consists of 500,000 people.....
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Are you kidding? I thought the racist caste system was abolished in India. It is not compatible with democracy. If two people wish to marry each other, noone has the right to prevent them. But I understand in India with so many uneducated people this is not so easy. But you don´t seem to be an uneducated person.
Land distribution is even the reason .A reply to a previous post (few pages back): Naxalites are not demanding a separate state from India. Rather, they are trying to bring down the "Capitalist" regime, and replace it with a communist regime. This is basically a result of high poverty in the country, and the inability of the government to bring proper development to undeveloped rural areas.
This is also (as I suppose you realise) not easy. And without cooperation with Pakistan I believe it is more or less impossible. India and Pakistan have to cooperate. By doing so they have everything to win.Now it's too late. Best solution is, just make the LOC an International border. Let Pakistan keep what it has, and we keep what we have. There is no other solution.
Instead of dragging this on and on, lets just finish it off, bring Kashmiri Hindus & Sikhs back to their homeland, and focus on rebuilding our part of Kashmir, educating Kashmiris, giving them jobs, improving their standard of living, and bringing them into the mainstream of a prosperous, growing India.
Allah Hafiz.
Cooperation with Pakistan is virtually impossible. Despite the fact that it is a democracy, it is a very weak democracy. And if history is any sign, Pakistan will always be controlled by military, even if it is a "democracy". Pakistan, (and it's ISI in particular) will not stop until it controls all of Kashmir. It is not willing to settle for any middle ground. They have gone all out to make sure this happens. They have supported militancy & terrorism in Kashmir. They have supported (and still do) militancy & terrorism in Indian Punjab. They have funded/supported terror attacks throughout India. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Pakistan's ISI is pumping in huge sums of fake currency to weaken India's economy.This is also (as I suppose you realise) not easy. And without cooperation with Pakistan I believe it is more or less impossible. India and Pakistan have to cooperate. By doing so they have everything to win.
A problem is of course that Pakistani regimes have usually been undemocratic and unreliable. I wish to believe that it is different now. At least the Pakistani government has now been democratically elected. But I have the feeling it is very unstable. I cannot post on the Pakistani Defense Forum any more. But at least I can read. And it seems most forumites there wish the Musharraf dictatorship back. So I think it is important for India (and for the world) to support democracy in Pakistan.
There is also another problem with bringing people back to their homeland; For how long is your homeland your homeland? E.g. should the Germans who had to leave Königsberg after WW II be brought back? Or the Finns who fled Karelia? And what about the Palestinians who fled Israel in 1948?
After some time all refugees will be dead. And the new generations would be strangers in the homeland of their parents.
care to explain in detail?Land distribution is even the reason .
or Pakistan becomes crippled on its own as is happening now.Kashmir issue will be solved if either of two things happen-
1) One contender becomes devasted in a war and becomes crippled enough to put forword any claim on kashmir
or
2) India Pakistan reunites thus solving all dipoutes among them and prosper
Or you hold a referendum to see what the Kashmiris really want rather than trying to speak for them.or Pakistan becomes crippled on its own as is happening now.
Not gonna happen. According to UN resolutions, Pakistani forces had to vacate the occupied Kashmir to allow plebiscite but that never happened, so India is not anymore bound to hold referendum. Moreover it is 60 yrs now and there were many demographic changes and the UN resolutions are as good as dead.Or you hold a referendum to see what the Kashmiris really want rather than trying to speak for them.
Cut the referendum ploy! First stop the flow of terrorists of so called Freedom fighters and then sit down and talk of referendum. India is not a Banana Republic, which you can blackmail by putting a gun to our heads. We wont relent to your pressure tactics, and I am happy to see that the So called freedom fighters elsewhere have come back to haunt you!!!!Or you hold a referendum to see what the Kashmiris really want rather than trying to speak for them.